Talk:Ibn Taymiyya

Controversial scholar

Article is trying to hide the fact that ibn taymiyyah is highly controversial and notorious scholar for his extremest views against the mainstream Sunni beliefs. Zikrullah (talk) 13:09, 28 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Very wrong, ibn Taymiyya was against a minority heterodox group AlKhwarizimi (talk) 16:52, 6 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Ibn Hazm was even more "Controversial" and less influential than him. Yet, this isn't mentioned in his Wikipedia page. ~2025-31350-48 (talk) 10:43, 8 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Abu Hanifa too, was considered a heretic if not an infidel in the early centuries of Islam before being incorporated to Sunni Orthodoxy in later centuries. ~2025-32886-80 (talk) 08:39, 12 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Hey,

I noticed that his works, such as Al-Aqidah Al-Waasitiyyah are not linked in the infobox, even though they are already present in the article. I've seen in other philosophers their works are both linked in the article and infobox. Is this intentional?

PS if I don't get a reply I assume that means there's no objections to me adding the links to the infobox, but let me know if I'm mistaken on this.

Wikieditor662 (talk) 05:21, 5 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Added Wikieditor662 (talk) 18:31, 7 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Could we have someone trusted overlook the edits here?

A lot of the disorganization of the article comes from everyone going free for all in what they want to add. You'll see the article going at a normal consistent pace then you see someone awkwardly adding a "however" sentence somewhere. I'd like this to be a good article please as this is quite an important figure. SearchingforAbsurd (talk) 04:33, 16 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]

On Ibn Taymiyya's affiliation with the Qadriyya order

Even though none of the early history works about him mention anything about this supposed affiliation. On the top of that, this is a minority view in the modern times NOT a well-proven fact as this page/article tries to claim. For example, the first cited source which is written by al-Maqdisi starts his work with explicitly stating that Ibn Taymiyya is GENERALLY seen as an Anti-Sufi Scholar. ~2025-31350-48 (talk) 14:11, 8 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Karrami Influence

Zysow, Aron (15 October 2011). "KARRĀMIYA". Iranica. Vol. 15. Encyclopوdia Iranica Foundation. pp. 590–601. Retrieved 1 October 2020. Among later Muslim thinkers Ebn Taymiya (d. 728/1328) stands out as a sympathetic, if critical, student of Karrāmi theology, and he took it upon himself to write an extensive commentary on Faḵr-al-Din Rāzi's anti-Karrāmi work Asās al-taqdis, in which he defended the traditionist and Karrāmi positions on the key points of dispute

This is sufficient proof of him being influenced by Ibn Karram. MarjanTheCoralStone (talk) 20:50, 8 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Beyond the fact that this is a very late source anyway, the source doesn't explicity state that Ibn Karram had any influence on him. Yes, he agreed with him on some points despite refuting him and he studied his Creed just like how he studied the Ash'ari, Christian, Mu'talizi and Other Creeds for Knowledge and to refute these Creeds. Ibn Taymiyya's popular work "Sharh al-Aqida al-Isfahaniya" is a literal and clear example for this, the entire work is to study and explain an Ashari Creed of an Ashari Scholar as well as to refute it at the sametime. ~2025-31350-48 (talk) 21:10, 8 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Another clear example of this, is the Encyclopedia of Philosophy describing him as "very well-read of his time's literature" does that necessarily mean he was influenced by all the works that he well-read and studied?! ~2025-31350-48 (talk) 21:48, 8 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
This is all Original Research, the source states he is a student of Karrami theology, hence he was influenced. End of story. MarjanTheCoralStone (talk) 21:56, 8 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
How is this Original Research?! If you lack critical thinking then maybe it is for you, but if not then you can know that one could easily study a Creed or a Book or a Religion without necessarily being influenced. ~2025-31350-48 (talk) 22:01, 8 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]