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Hi

Hi, Thanks for helping me with Kesha Wizzart. Also perhaps we could start to perhaps find more information on this subject. Thanks again.--BabbaQ (talk) 15:21, 4 May 2012 (UTC)

A Journey response

Hi. Sorry it took me so long ... I was in the midst of researching and writing two long, interrelated articles and I wanted to finish that before I engaged myself in anything else major. I'm done now, and hopefully later this weekend I'll be able to do the editing I meant to (I may print the article out again and go through it before I do that). Daniel Case (talk) 19:56, 5 May 2012 (UTC)

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Image request

I note that you are requesting an image be added to West Heath, West Midlands. Just curious why the four images already in the article are insufficient for you? We usually only request the addition of an image where there are none. 21st CENTURY GREENSTUFF 13:01, 10 May 2012 (UTC)

WP Birmingham

Golly you have got a job on your hands adding the project template to all the Birmingham related articles ... there are dozens of community pages, Bournville, Northfield, Digbeth etc ... hundreds of people associated with Brum ... and Heaven knows how many other pages ... museums, buidings, events etc. It should keep you busy for a while. 21st CENTURY GREENSTUFF 22:00, 10 May 2012 (UTC)

Indeed, I think it might take me a few months to do everything, if not longer. :) My plan is to start with the main Birmingham topics then work my way through the other stuff, doing a little bit each day. Hopefully a few others will join as things get off the ground, and help with some of the tasks. I started WikiProject Edinburgh in 2009 and that seems to be quite successful now with several members. Paul MacDermott (talk) 11:15, 11 May 2012 (UTC)

Hi

Hi, I have updated the Death of Casey-Lyanne Kearney article with new information from the last few days. Nice too see that the case has recieved lasting coverage beyond the original crime itself. --BabbaQ (talk) 15:14, 13 May 2012 (UTC)

I have read it now and I have to say that I am impressed by your work. Hope you do find some image/s for the article then it will be somewhat complete. Good work!--BabbaQ (talk) 16:37, 13 May 2012 (UTC)
Unfortunatly the article on Casey was deleted. On quite weak grounds in my opinion as no clear consensus could be found according to me the close should have been No consensus and wait for trial but anyway. Perhaps we can wait until the summer trial and then add it again if we find it too be worth it.--BabbaQ (talk) 19:09, 14 May 2012 (UTC)
I was going to ask if you could incubate the article for now. Or if you agree with me that it was wrongly closed as delete we could ask for re-evaluation but I feel that I am biased as creator of the article so I need atleast one more users back-up. But I will take your advice.--BabbaQ (talk) 19:18, 14 May 2012 (UTC)
Because I truly think that the article was wrongly closed as Delete, Their were strong arguments on both sides and the closing user should have closed it as No consensus in my opinion.--BabbaQ (talk) 19:20, 14 May 2012 (UTC)
Yes, I will wait for the trial in June and then I get back too you about the article and what we could do. Thanks.--BabbaQ (talk) 15:53, 15 May 2012 (UTC)

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A Journey

OK, I finally did the copy edit, which lightened the article by about 2.5K ... not my record, but still quite a bit. I have further separated the US and UK reviews, and took it upon myself to add alt text to the images. I hope you like it. Daniel Case (talk) 02:34, 16 May 2012 (UTC)

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"The" newspaper

Hey, was just wondering if you knew what the style guide is for newspaper titles in refs. I think it's meant to be "Daily Telegraph", not "The Daily Telegraph", but then surely it would be "Guardian" instead of "The Guardian", at the moment the article differentiates between the two. I'm happy to work through and help change them to the same formatting, I'm just wondering if it is currently how the style guide says it is meant to be. wackywace 19:18, 31 May 2012 (UTC)

RE: David Bahati

Isn't the Guardian enough as a reliable source? It's a highly respected news and reliable source. And besides, Bahati's actions & words surely do prove that he is homophobic? --112.134.214.156 (talk) 13:54, 2 June 2012 (UTC)

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Reference-desk date headers

Beats me what the right thing to do is. The last time I corrected headers, I did it the way you have done, figuring that the archiving would be easier for the bot to handle that way; but someone came along and deleted the header with no posts under it. Let's see what happens this time. Deor (talk) 22:17, 10 June 2012 (UTC)

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Hi

I have started a stub on Marjorie Orbin. Quite an interesting case concerning her. Take a look when you have the time. Cheers.--BabbaQ (talk) 19:41, 24 June 2012 (UTC)

OK.Thank you! No, sorry I dont know anyone who specializes in that from WP:CRIME. I can take a look and get back to you if I find someone. Once again, thanks.--BabbaQ (talk) 22:06, 24 June 2012 (UTC)
I just have to congratulate you on your work on the Philip Smith article. It is a really nicely done article. Good Work!--BabbaQ (talk) 13:43, 25 June 2012 (UTC)

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WikiProject Shropshire - New User

Hi, Paul - Understanding you are the project's founder, I would like to introduce myself as a potential helper (and have just added my name on its page). Ample details of myself can be found on my User Page. I am a User of 5 months (edits now past 1800 mark), purely doing this from home netbook, and a lifelong Shropshire resident. I am happy to be consulted on anything you think I might be able to help with, as I possess a number of Shropshire reference books and guides and I am a frequent looker-up at Shrewsbury Reference Library and Shropshire Archives. I am in sympathy with the project's aims and hope other users find changes to Shropshire related articles they may also have worked on to be an improvement. I also raise questions in Talk pages on matters that don't look right in an article or which could benefit from the intervention of users with better access than me to appropriate sources of information. I have chosen my username as my real name, I discover, is common in the English-speaking world.Cloptonson (talk) 20:22, 10 July 2012 (UTC)

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Hi

Hi, I just have to once again say that your work on the Murder of Joanna Yeates article is great. It is a special article for me as I actually had to do quite alot of work during the AfD for the article. But I never thought it would one day become a FA-status article which for me is proof that my work to keep the article was justified. If you find some time please check out my stub on Marjorie Orbin. Cheers.--BabbaQ (talk) 15:17, 17 July 2012 (UTC)

Also if you got the time please check out the neutrality discussion on Murder of Michaela McAreavey. Someone placed the Neutrality tag on the article but did not start a discussion on the talk page. So I did that instead, and I don't see any neutrality issues quite opposit actually.--BabbaQ (talk) 16:21, 17 July 2012 (UTC)
Now I have to try to save Marjorie Orbin from AfD. We have to see how it goes. Otherwise I will accept the outcome. --BabbaQ (talk) 14:50, 22 July 2012 (UTC)

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Hi, just a quick courtesy call. There's a discussion ongoing about updating and restructuring the article on the murder of Suzanne Pilley. I note from the logs that you made a significant contribution to the article. Don't want to tread on any toes...

Thoughts and objections to the changes welcome.

SpectroscopicJ (talk) 17:44, 22 July 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for the kind words re:Suzanne Pilley, it was your Joanna Yeates article that got me started - a great read. SpectroscopicJ (talk) 21:20, 25 July 2012 (UTC)

Question

Hi, I was thinking of starting an article about the Disappearance of Melanie Melanson could you give me an indication if you think it's worth the work? So it isn't deemed a one event immediatly. I have seen that she has been mentioned in national headlines many times troughout the years. But a second opinion is always helpful. Thank you!--BabbaQ (talk) 23:28, 30 July 2012 (UTC)

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Nomination of Gail Trimble for deletion

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Userpage by a new name

I was interested to know that in a former incarnation, you were known as the RetroGuy - I am pretty sure that I have made Wikipedia discussions in the past, on the topics of the subjects of Miriam O'Reilly and Gail Trimble. The difference was that these were under your old name, the RetroGuy - did you say that that name came from a song? ACEOREVIVED (talk) 19:00, 7 August 2012 (UTC)

Hi

Hi, I have atleast started a stub on the Disappearance of Tia Sharp a highly notable disappaearance in England which has garnered international headlines. Let see how it goes.--BabbaQ (talk) 23:43, 7 August 2012 (UTC)

Carole Waugh

I think that would be a good choice to make an article about that particular case. And I would support you doing a stub about Waugh,it could become a really interesting article. And thank you for your input on Tia Sharp.--BabbaQ (talk) 13:57, 8 August 2012 (UTC)

Talk:Controversies at the 2012 Summer Olympics

I'm just wondering why you deleted half of Talk:Controversies at the 2012 Summer Olympics? Simply south...... flapping wings into buildings for just 6 years 15:52, 10 August 2012 (UTC)

The article Death of Carole Waugh has been proposed for deletion because of the following concern:

A news review item not an encyclopedia entry. There's no evidence of any substantive or enduring notability or significance attached to this case, per WP:EVENT

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OK, now AFDd. That's ten minutes I won't get back ... N-HH talk/edits 17:40, 10 August 2012 (UTC)
And what kind of comment is that? --BabbaQ (talk) 17:48, 10 August 2012 (UTC)
Thanks for the afd, I wanted a chance to put my views on this forward, and that's something I don't think I would get from the PROD process. Btw, ten minutes on here is never a waste of time. :) Paul MacDermott (talk) 17:54, 10 August 2012 (UTC)
Also user N-HH if you are the one who wants an article deleted you also have to put the work into doing the AfD. Because we won't help you:)--BabbaQ (talk) 17:57, 10 August 2012 (UTC)
Also, don't request deletion of a breaking news story article before you understand its significance if you don't want to incur grief. --Ef80 (talk) 19:50, 11 August 2012 (UTC)
Not sure if that's meant for N-HH or me, but just to clarify. N-HH proposed the deletion, but I don't personally like PROD, because to me it can seem like deletion by the backdoor. Someone doesn't like an article because they think it doesn't meet the guidelines, so it gets PRODded, then if it doesn't get contested, someone else who doesn't think it makes the grade can delete it. Something like this needs a wider consideration, so I asked him to open an afd if he felt strongly enough about it. Paul MacDermott (talk) 20:53, 11 August 2012 (UTC)
The comment was directed at N-HH. Apologies for the lack of clarity. --Ef80 (talk) 09:47, 12 August 2012 (UTC)
No worries. :) Paul MacDermott (talk) 11:27, 12 August 2012 (UTC)

DYK for Jenny McCudden

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Death of Carole Waugh

I just wanted to say that your handling of the AFD for the article Death of Carole Waugh was highly commendable, and I agree with your comments on the articles talk page. If you need any help or support on this article, or any others, please - just ask! With Best Regards, --Trident13 (talk) 17:08, 17 August 2012 (UTC)

PS: hope that you like overnight what I did on the article. 13 arrests for one murder - must be a pretty unprecedent ratio that one! Rgds --Trident13 (talk) 15:27, 18 August 2012 (UTC)
You've done a great job, thanks again. Have now added an image, and may look at Commons for one or two others. Must agree with you on the number of arrests. It's fairly unusual. Paul MacDermott (talk) 15:33, 18 August 2012 (UTC)
One worth saving. The more I researched and put those edits in, the more it made me question further N-HH's logic in both AFD's. While any death is highly regrettable: accepting the original Carole Waugh article didn't mention the 13 arrests, but that number and a gang approach is highly unusual; the Death of Tia Sharp has turned into an unfortunate family incident. Both have survived for now, but interestingly the Met Police have a higher ranking and far larger team on the Waugh case, which should mean as the legal case progresses more interesting facts appearing. Also, while I did mention the Libya connection, I didn't expand on her personal life - its hers, and second it may have nothing to do with the murder. I suspect some may however place greater emphasis on it - one to be watched. Have a great weekend - Rgds, --Trident13 (talk) 15:44, 18 August 2012 (UTC)

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The Signpost: 20 August 2012

  • Op-ed: Wikimedians are rightfully wary
    The Wikimedia Foundation sometimes proposes new features that receive substantive criticism from Wikimedians, yet those criticisms may be dismissed on the basis that people are resistant to change—there's an unjustified view that the wikis have been overrun by vested contributors who hate all change. That view misses a lot of key details and insight because there are good reasons that Wikimedians are suspicious of features development, given past and present development of bad software, growing ties with the problematic Wikia, and a growing belief that it is acceptable to experiment on users.
  • News and notes: Core content competition in full swing; Wikinews fork taken offline
    The Core Contest is a month-long competition among editors to improve Wikipedia's most important "core" articles—especially those that are in a relatively poor state. Core articles, such as Music, Computer, and Philosophy, tend to lie in the trunk of the tree of knowledge; by analogy, featured-and good-article processes generally attract more specialist topics out on the branches.
  • In the news: American judges on citing Wikipedia
    In the Utah Court of Appeals this week, the majority opinion in Fire Insurance Exchange v. Robert Allen Oltmanns and Brady Blackner relied on Wikipedia for the basic premise of their legal opinion, and included a concurring opinion devoted solely to the issue of citing Wikipedia in a legal opinion.
  • Featured content: Enough for a week – but I'm damned if I see how the helican.
    Thirteen featured articles were promoted this week, including pelicans, which are a genus of large water birds comprising the family Pelecanidae, characterised by a long beak and large throat-pouch. They have a fossil record dating back at least 30 million years and are most closely related to the Shoebill and Hammerkop. These fish-feeders have a patchy relationship with humans: the birds are sometimes persecuted and sometimes feature in mythology.
  • Technology report: Lua onto test2wiki and news of a convention-al extension
    New embeddable scripting ("template replacement") language Lua received considerable scrutiny this week when it began its long road to widespread deployment, landing on the test2wiki test site on Wednesday (wikitech-l mailing list). ... the fourth in our series profiling participants in this year's Google Summer of Code (GSoC) programme.
  • WikiProject report: Land of Calm and Contrast: Korea
    This week, we spent some time with WikiProject Korea. Started in September 2006, WikiProject Korea covers the history and culture of the Korean people, including both countries that currently occupy the Korean peninsula. This task has proven difficult with North Koreans notably absent from the Wikipedia community due to tight control over access to external media. The project is home to over 16,000 pages, including 15 pieces of Featured material and 66 Good and A-class Articles.

No, I think it is a great initiative. But yes someone will probably find a reason to put it up for AfD sooner or later. But if that is the case then I dont think you have to worry as I find the article to be notable. And I am usually right when it comes to notability concerning crime articles, as my track record on Crime-AfDs shows ;P :) Cheers.--BabbaQ (talk) 16:31, 22 August 2012 (UTC)

Murder of Celine Figard is an interesting article too!--BabbaQ (talk) 21:31, 22 August 2012 (UTC)

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The Signpost: 27 August 2012

  • News and notes: Tough journey for new travel guide
    Wikimedia editors have been debating a community proposal for the adoption of a new project to host free travel-guide content. The debate reached a new stage when a three-month request for comment on Meta came to an end, with a decision to set up the first new type of Wikimedia project in half a decade. The original proposal for the travel guide unfolded during April on Meta and the Wikimedia-l mailing lists, centring around the wish of volunteer contributors to the WikiTravel project to work in a non-commercial environment.
  • Technology report: Just how bad is the code review backlog?
    Developers were left one step closer to an understanding of the code review outlook this week after the creation of a graph plotting "number changesets awaiting review" over time. The chart, which also shows the number of new changesets created on a daily basis, reveals a peak in the number of unreviewed changesets in mid-July, followed by a short drop. The current figure stands at approximately 219 unreviewed changesets.
  • Featured content: Wikipedia rivals The New Yorker: Mark Arsten
    This week the Signpost interviews Mark Arsten, who has written or contributed significantly to ten featured articles; most have related to new religious movements, and some have touched on other controversial or quirky topics. Mark gives us a rundown on how he keeps neutral and what drives him to write featured content; he also gives some hints for aspiring writers.
  • WikiProject report: From sonic screwdrivers to jelly babies: Doctor Who
    This week, we hopped in a little blue box with a batch of companions from WikiProject Doctor Who. Started in April 2005, the project has grown to include about 4,000 pages about the world's longest-running science fiction television show, its spinoffs, and various related material. The project is the parent of the Torchwood Taskforce and a child of WikiProject British TV and WikiProject Science Fiction. With new Doctor Who episodes airing this week and a 50th anniversary celebration around the corner, we thought now would be a good time to inquire about the famed Time Lord.

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Hi. Please help us at Wikipedia talk:Did you know#Inscrutably clever fact in prep 2, which deals with Smooth 70s. --Orlady (talk) 14:50, 31 August 2012 (UTC)