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The result was no consensus. Jayjg ^(talk) 04:33, 2 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Desire (band) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View log • AfD statistics)

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Aside from one review through Pitchfork Media, no (other) reliable sources to establish notability of a band. Searching for "Desire" is hard, but searching with a band member's name only brought up one result from an apparently unreliable source. tedder (talk) 01:13, 25 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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• Probably should be kept. Here are some other sources.[1][2][3][4][5].Prezbo (talk) 04:28, 25 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep. Multiple sources found. Clearly notable.--Michig (talk) 06:38, 25 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
• Thanks for finding those sources, Prezbo. Prylon (talk) 09:15, 25 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete - the sources only mention the band in passing, except one unreliable source which is a review. Rapido (talk) 10:18, 25 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep Meets WP:MUSIC based on sources provided by Prezbo. Chubbles (talk) 20:15, 26 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
• Weak Keep Some references found help establish notability. Kyle1278 15:47, 28 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete – The sources Prezbo are hardly substantial.

#1 Is about the record company and only mentions the band in passing.

#2 Is about the producer and and only mentions the band in passing.

#3 Is about their record and interestingly talks more about the producer than the band. The band is almost an afterthought.

#4 Is about the producer and and only mentions the band in passing.

#5 Is about the Montreal music scene and only mentions the band in passing.

My question to Prezbo, Michig, Chubbles, and kyle1278 is how do these qualify as substantial coverage of the band. These are at best all passing references. ttonyb (talk) 17:39, 28 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Comment - The Portland Mercury, Now, and Guardian articles contain short but non-trivial coverage. The RA article is about the band's album - I don't see how that can not be considered significant coverage of the band, since the band exists to perform live and make records. See also this interview, and possibly this, although I'm not familiar with the site. Add in the fact the band's main man is also the main man behind this band, and I think it's clear that this should be kept.--Michig (talk) 18:21, 28 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Comment – The Portland Mercury, Now, and Guardian articles are trivial coverage - see description of the articles above. You have a point about the record coverage, but the gist of the article is about the album, not the band itself. The fact the band's "main man" is also behind another band is not a factor in establishing this band's notability. ttonyb (talk) 18:35, 28 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The band contains a notable musician, which certainly helps towards notability, but if you don't see it I'm not going to try to convince you further.--Michig (talk) 18:41, 28 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Comment – The criteria in WP:BAND is "Is an ensemble which contains two or more independently notable musicians..." ttonyb (talk) 20:17, 28 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

True, but that's only a rule of thumb, and in this case the clearly-notable Glass Candy was producer/musician Johnny Jewel plus a vocalist, and Desire is producer/musician Johnny Jewel plus a vocalist. There's also this Pitchfork review, which goes well beyond a brief mention.--Michig (talk) 20:41, 28 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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