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I was going over this list and noticed that the French retreat from Russia is not included. This struck me as something that would be obvious to include on this list—I imagine sources referring to it as a disaster are numerous—but I assume it's not included for some reason I'm not aware of. Anyone know why? Delukiel (talk) 14:19, 11 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Per the article inclusion criteria given in the lead (see also RfC above), the inclusion criteria are quite specific. Do such sources exist? Cinderella157 (talk) 21:34, 11 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

It's two sources that refer to it as a military disaster, right? A quick look on the page for the French invasion has:

• Grant, R. G. (2009). Battle: A Visual Journey Through 5,000 Years of Combat. New York : DK Pub. ISBN 9780756655785. Page 212: "Napoleon's Russia disaster encouraged Sweden..."
• Chandler, David G. (2009) [1966]. The Campaigns of Napoleon. Simon and Schuster. ISBN 9781439131039. Page 858: "Napoleon was already decisively beaten before the serious frosts began; they served only to increase the scale of his disaster..."

Is it specifically "military disaster?" Because that would make sense.

Edit: Looking over the criteria is looks like neither of these sources fit. Oh well.

Delukiel (talk) 00:39, 12 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

No they won't, Delukiel. The subject of the work must be military disasters. Compare with the sources used in the article for example. Regards, Cinderella157 (talk) 08:00, 12 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

During the Paraguayan War there was the battle of Curupayty (1866) where Paraguayans were outnumbered 4 to 1 but suffered only 54 losses whereas the alliance forces suffered 4227 losses. The battle had about 5000 Paraguayans fighting a total of 20000 Brazilians and Argentine soldiers.

It was the biggest defeat of alliance forces in Paraguayan War and it served no purpose to the alliance forces.

There's no source I know that includes this battle specifically in discussion of military disasters like it's the case for every other battle in the 19th century section, but the scale of the defeat is larger than those.

Sources from the Battle of Curupayty article would be included as reference. This is the first time I make any significant edit to Wikipedia so I'm asking here first. 179.217.1.98 (talk) 13:46, 20 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

NO we need a source saying it was a disaster. Slatersteven (talk) 13:57, 20 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Loafiewa why would it matter if the book specialises on such events if it is being called Military Disaster anyways; in multiple sources too? I think the purpose of such criteria is flawed regarding this event not being included. 203.220.196.86 (talk) 08:05, 16 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

These are the incluasion criteria determined by community discussion. Cinderella157 (talk) 08:48, 16 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

why did you revert the disaster at Kabul? What Criteria was being violated?

There a link to community discussion? 203.220.196.86 (talk) 14:09, 16 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Talk:List of military disasters/Archive 5 (Hohum ^@) 14:35, 16 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

None of the criteria were met. Cinderella157 (talk) 01:04, 17 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

This should be featured but I dont' know how to edit a page. - military disaster - emperor captured - end of an era event - political mess aftermath 2A01:E0A:AC6:B580:8675:7BAA:8FC9:9E61 (talk) 15:30, 9 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Sources for the claim it was a disaster? Slatersteven (talk) 15:32, 9 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

The Battle of Maritsa is indeed a military disaster and should be included in this page. There is also a link of List of Military Disasters in the wiki page of Battle of Maritsa but not included here. 151.135.155.165 (talk) 17:03, 13 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

source? Slatersteven (talk) 17:05, 13 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]