Talk:Bay Area Rapid Transit
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Number of vehicles correction
Is the number/type of vehicles correct in the number of vehicles section? It notes, “ 789 total, with 618 legacy cars and 171 new cars in service; with 8 DMU vehicle sets (eBART); and 4 AGT vehicle sets.” Seems to be incorrect as only new fleet cars are running in regular service and they’d need more than 171 new cars for complete service. Noahbroussard (talk) 06:07, 1 December 2023 (UTC)
Alleged racially biased design
The discussion was archived (see archive 4), but since then there have been new sources reporting on this (see [1]), so I think the section should be readded, citing this new source and naming San Antonio specifically. Fastfoodfanatic (talk) 21:15, 6 October 2024 (UTC)
- @Numberguy6: @RickyCourtney: @Pi.1415926535: Pinging everyone involved in the original discussion. Opinions would be appreciated. Fastfoodfanatic (talk) 21:18, 6 October 2024 (UTC)
- @InvadingInvader: @Jfruh: forgot to ping you. Fastfoodfanatic (talk) 19:41, 7 October 2024 (UTC)
- That article doesn't make much of a case for BART having any noteworthy bias (i.e. unusually different from other projects at the time). In fact, it says this:
Built according to race-neutral specifications in a region already stratified by race, most notably in its job market and housing policy, BART reproduced and reinforced existing inequalities.
I do think that a well-researched paragraph or two about the equity effects of BART's design, and more recent efforts to change that (including proposed infill stations), would be appropriate. This source could support that, but more substantial (particularly academic) sources would be needed. - What this source would not support is the claim of deliberate racial bias in the design. As I noted in the previous discussion, that is a claim that would need particularly strong sourcing. For the same reasons I posted there, San Antonio is not a compelling case for the claim. Pi.1415926535 (talk) 03:33, 14 October 2024 (UTC)
- That article doesn't make much of a case for BART having any noteworthy bias (i.e. unusually different from other projects at the time). In fact, it says this:
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Network topology
@Orbitalbuzzsaw: I really don't think your recent edit is an improvement from the previous wording. The wording is more convoluted ("network topology" and the lengthy first sentence in particular), and there are several subtle issues:
- While there are 15 TPH scheduled at peak, they are not scheduled on exactly 4-minute headways (primarily because the Yellow Line is every 10 and the others every 20)
- While similar in some aspects to S-Bahn systems, there are differences (notably that S-Bahn typically uses mainline rail lines) and that claim needs a reliable source. I'm also not sure it's a useful comparison given that readers are less likely to be familiar with the concept The existing claim of similarity to rapid transit and commuter rail also needs a cite, but that's easy to find (here's one I found in 30 seconds)
- Interlining is when services are connected end-to-end, not when multiple services share the same trunk.
I request you self-revert until we reach consensus about what changes are needed. Pi.1415926535 (talk) 22:12, 21 October 2025 (UTC)

