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Your submission at Articles for creation: Ancient Armenian Manuscripts (December 22)

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Armenian translation of John Chrysostom's commentary on the Psalms moved to draftspace
Thanks for your contributions to Armenian translation of John Chrysostom's commentary on the Psalms. Unfortunately, I do not think it is ready for publishing at this time because it needs more sources to establish notability. I have converted your article to a draft which you can improve, undisturbed for a while.
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Koriun and The Life of Mashtots pages
Dear User3810486,
Thank you for your contributions to articles on Armenian subjects. I hope you will continue to make them. I saw that you created an article for The Life of Mesrop Mashtots. Since Koriun has no other known works other than Life of Mashtots, it is probably an unnecessary content fork (creating a separate page about the same or almost the same topic, see WP:REDUNDANTFORK for more about this). I'd like to hear your opinion about this. I think it would be best to add any new information about the author and his one work to the article Koriun. Best wishes, Revolution Saga (talk) 01:52, 26 December 2024 (UTC)
- Hello, information about the alphabets and the works in Armenian, Caucasian Albanian and Georgian are fragmentary, dispersed and unorganized and I want to help organize them. I only use serious references when I contribute. The articles will be expanded by me and others of course with passages from the actual works. If I do this not separately but in articles that already exist they will be overloaded with information. This information overload is a reason for others to delete very relevant information. Best wishes. User3810486 (talk) 21:12, 26 December 2024 (UTC)
Warning

Your recent editing history at Mesrop Mashtots shows that you are currently engaged in an edit war; that means that you are repeatedly changing content back to how you think it should be, when you have seen that other editors disagree. To resolve the content dispute, please do not revert or change the edits of others when you are reverted. Instead of reverting, please use the talk page to work toward making a version that represents consensus among editors. The best practice at this stage is to discuss, not edit-war; read about how this is done. If discussions reach an impasse, you can then post a request for help at a relevant noticeboard or seek dispute resolution. In some cases, you may wish to request temporary page protection.
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- This warning goes both ways. Academic references and quotations from distinguished historians should not just be erased for unknown reasons. This is detrimental to wikipedia and to the article. "Patriotism" shouldn't cloud the judgement for what is and isn't relevant to the article. User3810486 (talk) 10:13, 3 January 2025 (UTC)
Edits on Christianization of Armenia
Dear User3810486, thank you for your contributions to the article Christianization of Armenia. I see that you reverted a couple of my edits which had reverted some of your changes. As far as I can tell from the sources (for example, Thomson 2013) and the article for Osroene, the conversion of that kingdom to Christianity in the 3rd century AD is not universally accepted. For this reason, presenting it as fact in the lead doesn't seem appropriate, especially not without sources. It would probably be good to add an explanatory note stating that some scholars accept the account of Abgar's conversion while others don't etc. etc. Best, Revolution Saga (talk) 07:26, 21 April 2025 (UTC)
- Dear @User3810486, following up on this. On another note, please strive to preserve the original citation style of the article if you make more additions (short citations + list of all sources at the bottom). There are some citeref errors now because of multiple citations with the same reference ID. Best wishes, Revolution Saga (talk) 21:32, 30 April 2025 (UTC)
- I try to find best sources and make it the article more verified. I disagree with your changing of the titles but I will add more details and maybe you will change your mind? Thank you for your help. User3810486 (talk) 18:53, 1 May 2025 (UTC)
- Thanks, I wasn't referring to the quality of the sources, but to the citation style. Also you didn't address my original comment about the changes to the lead regarding Osroene. Best wishes, Revolution Saga (talk) 01:51, 2 May 2025 (UTC)
- I try to find best sources and make it the article more verified. I disagree with your changing of the titles but I will add more details and maybe you will change your mind? Thank you for your help. User3810486 (talk) 18:53, 1 May 2025 (UTC)
- You shouldn't just be deleting links to Syriac Christianity in Christianization of Armenia article. No matter how you look at it Christianity arrived in Edessa earlier and the borrowings and adaptations are from Syrian into Armenian not the other way round. Syriac alphabet is also 4 centuries older than the Armenian alphabet, the process becomes logical. Whether Osrhoene was or was not the first Christian Kingdom is as disputed as whether Armenia was the same. I reworded it but you are still pushing only Armenia as the first Christian state. Tell me what other states claim being the "First Christian Kingdoms" besides Osrhoene and Armenia since you removed the mention of Osrhoene? User3810486 (talk) 08:05, 8 May 2025 (UTC)
Tell me what other states claim being the "First Christian Kingdoms" besides Osrhoene and Armenia since you removed the mention of Osrhoene?
Iberia and the Kingdom of Axum also converted to Christianity in the 4th century AD. Also, if Garsoian's hypothesis that the Armenian Satrapies converted before the Arsacid kingdom is correct, they could also be considered the "first Christian kingdoms". This is mentioned in the article.No matter how you look at it Christianity arrived in Edessa earlier and the borrowings and adaptations are from Syrian into Armenian not the other way round.
There is no doubt that Christianity spread to Armenia from the south and that Syriac Christianity already existed at that point (as the article makes quite clear). The question is whether Osroene, as a kingdom or state (the sentence in the lead says "becoming one of the first states to do so") converted to Christianity before Armenia, and you haven't provided sources for that. The monarchy of Osroene had ceased to exist by 242 at the latest (per Iranica), and the conversion of Abgar the Great of Osroene to Christianity seems to be disputed (whereas Trdat's conversion is not disputed by anybody; only the date is in question). Revolution Saga (talk) 21:12, 10 May 2025 (UTC)- Hello. Thanks for you help, but you shouldn't unlink Osroene. Others don't claim to be the first Christian kingdoms but Osroene and Armenian are in a disagreement over this. Osroene ceased to exist in 242 but Armenia many times throughout history as well ceased as a kingdom. Trdat's conversion is only confirmed by Armenian sources, are there any non Armenian history sources about Trdat's Christianization? User3810486 (talk) 20:45, 14 May 2025 (UTC)
- Until you've provided reliable sources which unequivocally state that the kingdom of Osroene converted to Christianity, it can't be in the article. When I removed it, it was unsourced. In any case, the article is about Armenia, not Osroene, so I'm not sure why we can't just let the article stand as it is; "one of the first states to do so" is still accurate, whether Armenia was precisely the first or only one of the first. Revolution Saga (talk) 07:01, 15 May 2025 (UTC)
- Hello. Thanks for you help, but you shouldn't unlink Osroene. Others don't claim to be the first Christian kingdoms but Osroene and Armenian are in a disagreement over this. Osroene ceased to exist in 242 but Armenia many times throughout history as well ceased as a kingdom. Trdat's conversion is only confirmed by Armenian sources, are there any non Armenian history sources about Trdat's Christianization? User3810486 (talk) 20:45, 14 May 2025 (UTC)
May 2025
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- please check now if it is correct. User3810486 (talk) 09:54, 6 May 2025 (UTC)
- Yes that's better. — Diannaa 🍁 (talk) 12:29, 6 May 2025 (UTC)
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Concern regarding Draft:Ancient Armenian Manuscripts
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Speedy deletion nomination of Edward V. Gulbekian
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I wanted to let you know that I just tagged Edward V. Gulbekian for deletion, because the article doesn't clearly indicate why the subject is important enough to be included in an encyclopedia.
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- I have postponed the speedy deletion of this article. But it does need work so to prevent deletion, I moved it to "draft status"; you can find it at Draft:Edward V. Gulbekian.
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- Thanks for contributing here! —A. B. (talk • contribs • global count) 02:48, 25 May 2025 (UTC)
- Hello, I think the article should exist because it has information not available anywhere. There is no list of works by this person who was cited by academicians frequently and he wrote many interesting articles that appear in academic journals. He was not just private person but an active person of Armenian historian circles. User3810486 (talk) 07:49, 25 May 2025 (UTC)
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Nomination of Alphabets of the South Caucasus for deletion
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Avedis Krikor Sanjian moved to draftspace
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