Talk:Catholic Church in Scotland
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Catholic Church naming conventions RfC
There is currently an RfC at Wikipedia talk:Naming conventions (Catholic Church)#RfC: should this page be made a naming convention that may be of interest. Chicbyaccident (talk) 09:59, 4 October 2017 (UTC)
Pogrom
The request for a quotation from the source ("does source really term this a "pogrom", which tends to imply wholesale massacre & destruction & applied to jews? otherwise loaded/hyperbolic") to which you refer was to confirm its use of the the term to describe events. As it clearly does not, the appropriate action would be to simply remove the contested term, or replace it with a more measured one (a riot, for example, is not a pogrom). If the quote had confirmed the use of the term, posting the quote on the talk page would be the appropriate way to demonstrate this and, with consensus, the tag could be removed from the point in the article. Dumping another lengthy quote into an article (as appears to be your problematic m.o.) is the worst of both worlds, particularly pointless as it confirmed the lack of support for your wording. Mutt Lunker (talk) 16:11, 16 July 2024 (UTC)
Multiple issues
This article has multiple issues, largely as a consequence of a recent campaign of editing, also affecting multiple other articles and discussed at Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Scotland#Bloating_in_Gaels_articles,_again. Mutt Lunker (talk) 19:22, 25 November 2024 (UTC)
- The above is petinent to this current ANI discussion. Mutt Lunker (talk) 21:05, 17 January 2025 (UTC)
Much of the material in the excessively lengthy lead is not a summary of the main body because it is not even covered there. The assertion that "Catholicism has had a very heavy influence upon Post-Reformation Scottish Gaelic literature and the recent Scottish Gaelic Renaissance" may or not be correct but is neither covered in the main body, nor cited. Unless and until it is covered and cited, this, and the subsequent list of individuals, is better removed. Mutt Lunker (talk) 00:36, 7 February 2025 (UTC)
Bias of membership numbers
In the text, I read "16% of the population of Scotland described themselves as being Catholic, compared with 32% affiliated with the Church of Scotland". This implicates that there should be twice as much Presbytarians than Catholics.
In the info boxes I read of 841,053 Catholics and 259,200 Presbytarians, 2½ as much Catholics than Presbytarians.--Ulamm (talk) 11:00, 26 April 2025 (UTC)
- From the 2011 census (the ref for the 841,053 figure in the infobox) "32 per cent of the population (1.7 million) stated they belonged to the Church of Scotland... whilst the proportion of people who stated they were Roman Catholic remained the same as in 2001 at 16 per cent (0.8 million)", so this is self-declared affiliation, with no indication of formal membership, attendance (or e.g whether these are cultural attachments, active beliefs or whatever). The 841,053 appears in the article body with a different ref but the link is dead. I'll change the wording from stating this is "membership" to reflect that of the census. The figure of 259,200 does not appear in this article but appears to be that for the formal membership of the Church of Scotland (the largest, but one of several, Presbyterian denominations in Scotland) so again, not the same as the much larger number who self-declared an affiliation, of whatever sort, in the census. Mutt Lunker (talk) 20:59, 26 April 2025 (UTC)
Government
the Catholic Church in Scotland is not governed by the Bishops' Conference. Bishops' Conferences in the Catholic Church do not govern. Individual bishops govern their own dioceses. Individual metropolitans and primates might have certain roles but not conferences, except for limited functions like determining certain liturgical translations, calendars, etc, but even that requires approval from the Pope. 2607:FEA8:FF01:4FA6:EC5A:5C6F:3CBE:E5B (talk) 00:06, 22 September 2025 (UTC)
- Those
limited functions
are actually significant enough for us to describe the episcopal conference as governing the Catholic Church in Scotland. ~ Pbritti (talk) 01:06, 22 September 2025 (UTC)