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It refers to "Eighth generation", "the generation" and "this generation", without explaining what "generation" means in this context, what is the definition of the term, and who coined it. Who coined the term "Eighth generation"? More needs to be written about the definition and etymology of this term, a lot of the article references make no mention of the term even though they are purported to do so.60.241.196.49 (talk) 18:13, 6 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Agreed. And there needs to be an easy way to get to other generations, or at least gens 7 and 9. 172.59.203.50 (talk) 00:13, 2 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

7th gen and 9th gen are already linked in the WP:LEAD, the WP:INFOBOX and the template at the bottom of the article. Sergecross73 msg me 01:48, 2 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

The Nintendo Switch is decidedly a 9th generation console (literally began the generation) and changes are being made to rectify this misinformation. The very stated metrics from the vandals in question that these consoles must be commonly talked about in tandem with one another to be considered of the same generation is hypocritical because not only is the Switch talked about in tandem with the PS5 and newest Xbox constantly, they were added to the lineup-discussion afterward and play second fiddle in terms of chronology. 9th Generation page will also be cleaned of all misinformation and vandalism as soon as possible, we need to do better guys.

Generations are released in "batches". When all companies have their latest console out, the Generation is "set". Thereafter when one of those companies releases a newly branded line of console (not slim or pro, new) the next "batch" and Generation is begun. You don't get to just up and decide that's not the fucking case. Putting two entirely separate Nintendo Home/Hybrid consoles in the same Gen literally serves no purpose on an informational level and just confuses everyone for no reason, are you people kidding me? Amarythe (talk) 17:27, 26 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

That's not how generations are defined, they are defined by which consoles have been groups as competitors on the market. Just because most of the other generations line up when the competitors have all released a new console is a coincidence to this definition. Masem (t) 17:31, 26 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Well first off all by that metric the Switch is decidedly a Gen 9 product because that's obviously where it's currently competing, in addition to where it's been competing for the longest. You people are forgetting that these release schedule batches are the thing that ultimately decided which consoles are going to compete with each other, so I can acknowledge that it's not necessarily THE defining trait but it's so 1:1 at this point the observation is kind of negligible. Amarythe (talk) 20:53, 26 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

That is objectively not how WP:VANDALISM is defined on Wikipedia either. Sergecross73 msg me 18:00, 26 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

This is the first thing you've said all day I can concede to. Flagrant misinformation rendering articles fundamentally uninformative is technically not vandalism if your intention isn't to mislead. Amarythe (talk) 20:56, 26 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

That's a start, at least. Please keep taking the time to learn how the website works. If you didn't know that basic point, there's probably a lot more things you can learn that'll help you feel less confused about how the website functions. Sergecross73 msg me 21:20, 26 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I am well aware thank you, when I woke up this morning to find one of my article sources completely gutted for reasons you still have the burden of providing proof for and literally everyone is mad at you for I understandably assumed the worst. Amarythe (talk) 21:31, 26 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I'm sorry, who gutted what exactly? Can you provide a dif to what you're referring to here? Sergecross73 msg me 21:40, 26 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Oi, apparently I've got a poor memory and the Switch has never been included. You've got to be kidding me. None of this makes any sense. It competes in the current market, it's a new brand, 5 years is absolutely long enough for a Generation to end, it absolutely did mark a shift in the market's zeitgeist with the Steam Deck and PlayStation Portal, there is simply no justification for this at all. Amarythe (talk) 22:15, 26 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Alright, so that's two incorrect accusations on your part now. Again, please slow down, assume good faith, and learn how the website works. Thanks. Sergecross73 msg me 22:28, 26 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

These people don't seem to apply logic to any of this consistently. The second generation began in 1976 with the Fairchild Channel F, but the Nintendo Color-TV Game released in 1977 (just a few months before the Atari 2600) is somehow considered first generation. The arbitrary and conjured-up reasoning being it was not cartridge-based, but you know what's hilarious? The Game & Watch, which also has baked-in games is considered second generation on here! And then something like the Wii which introduced motion controls does not get to be one generation ahead of the consoles that did not have it. The type of media or the revolutionary way a system is used was never used to define a generation again after the second generation. It's all completely arbitrary and feelings-based. Yes, it is extraordinarily obvious that the Switch is one generation after the Wii U, and the Switch 2 is one generation after the Switch. It couldn't be any more logical, but I guess that doesn't apply here. The biggest thing they can't seem to currently wrap their heads around is that HANDHELD SYSTEMS ARE INCLUDED IN CONSOLE GENERATIONS. The Game Boy Advance is not as powerful as the original Xbox or PS2, but are they considered the same sixth generation? Yes they are. So the same freaking logic applies to the Switch and the Xbox Series X and PS5! One is a handheld, and they are all 9th generation! Do you not get this? Why do you not get this?! The best solution is for them to toss it all and say this isn't working, but that won't happen. 36.238.19.154 (talk) 09:20, 29 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

We already have a big talk thread about the placement of the Switch 2 into a generation, specifically due to the Switch NOT BEING SET IN A GENERATION. Regardless of my personal feelings on what fits where, if the Switch 2 cannot be included in the ninth generation page, then the original Switch cannot be included here. TechKnight25 (talk) 15:47, 3 January 2026 (UTC)[reply]

Both here, and through some of your edits, you seem to be operating under some sort of belief that there needs to be some sort of consistency between articles. This is not true. We need to take things on a case by case basis, based on what reliable sources say in each scenario. "We need to do it here because we did it somewhere else" is not a valid rationale. Sergecross73 msg me 16:29, 3 January 2026 (UTC)[reply]