Talk:Anti-Russian sentiment

Pro-russian narration

Reading this, it's easy to have the impression that it was mostly written with pro-russian bias. Only the small part mentions that "Russophobia" is sometimes used by Russia as narrative to cover up the fact that some of the alleged "phobia" is just natural reaction to Russian imperialism. This section should be longer, as "Russophobia" is infact mostly a phobia of Russian imperialism coming from eastern European nations that were abused. Imagine an article about "British empire phobia", as British Empire was at many levels similar to Russian Empire when it comes to colonizing, just not over seas. I'm pretty sure that article about "British-phobia" would mostly consist of the argumentation that British phobia was mostly natural reaction to British imperialism and exploitation. It's sad that Russian imperialism is not regarded as serious imperialism in the West, because of thinking among the lines that Russia was not imperialistic, because "they didn't have oversea colonies, and later they had communism so they must love equality", etc... 46.204.100.225 (talk) 02:13, 2 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

More than half a century has passed since the times of the USSR, and Russia has changed a lot (and for the better) since then.
Unfortunately, there are plenty of russian mods on English Wikipedia who work day and night to whitewash russian atrocities as much as possible. 109.87.36.102 (talk) 11:35, 6 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Unfortunately for you, you're wrong.

Seems that the anti-Russian lobby never give up. For is not attempting to undermining an article that presents convincing evidence to question long-standing Russophobia and hate, a little pointless and counter-productive? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2a00:23c6:27a1:5401:8520:ea41:c442:1254 (talk) 16:51, 20 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

True. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 151.36.166.200 (talk) 15:57, 30 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Racism, prejudice and discrimination against Russians

It is prejudice, discrimination and racism against Russian people.

Can you please adding "Discrimination sidebar" on the page? 2605:4A80:7804:8EE0:50E2:6635:4B60:4991 (talk) 08:27, 1 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

 Not done IP seems to want to add "racism" to all kinds of anti-X sentiment articles, see the list of their contributions. Rsk6400 (talk) 17:05, 1 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 1 April 2025

Grammatical errors

There are two missing words in this article that should be inserted, and one word changed, according to the rules of English grammar:

Under "History in Europe", the following sentences should read :

"Contemporaries described the Tsardom of Russia and early Russian Empire as a barbaric enemy of Christianity."

"Western nations had unfavorable views of Russia, with the (not an!) exception of Italy, which was attributed by Pew Research Center to a delivery of medical aid by Moscow early during the pandemic.".

"85% of Americans polled by Gallup between 1 and 17 February 2022 had an unfavorable view of Russia."

These sentences look wrong without these terms and are bad English! 92.233.179.5 (talk) 15:51, 1 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

 Done, thanks for pointing these out. – AllCatsAreGrey (talk) 23:28, 5 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Some individuals may have prejudice or hatred against Russians due to history

It is a very vague and fuzzy wording that makes zero sence.

I propose to replace the umbrella "history" term with the specific "due to numerous Russian crimes against humanity" or "due to the ethnical cleanses performed by Russians". 176.113.167.189 (talk) 14:40, 15 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Do you realise how this sounds? Collective blame, ethnic hatred, dehumanisation — that’s not “history,” that’s racism 101. You don’t get to call for ethnic cleansing and pretend you’re objective..
Replace “Russians” in your sentence with “Jews” and you’ve got Hitler’s speech. That’s how racist you sound.
What you wrote isn’t analysis, it’s fascist bile. Condemning millions of people as criminals because of their ethnicity is precisely the thinking that built Auschwitz. If that’s the ground you stand on, you’ve lost the argument before you begin. 159.196.168.17 (talk) 06:30, 28 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I agree, in comparison to other articles of such nature, like for example Anti-German sentiment, this one lacks in neutrality. Gigman (talk) 13:38, 6 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Glebushko0703: Could you please be more specific about the problems you see ? And do you really agree with the IP obviously seeing parallels between Hitler's antisemitism and Russophobia ? BTW I'm Russophile, I just don't like the current government of the Russian Federation. Rsk6400 (talk) 07:50, 7 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I agree that the article has some bias and neutrality problems, not with Hitler stuff, that's nonsense LOL.
I've just spotted some weird activity going on with this page, like some content being removed just to be brought back by different user later, or the fact that same non-neutral information is mentioned several times.
I'm not russophobic myself, but nor am I a russophile. I'm just not chauvinistic. Gigman (talk) 12:18, 7 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]
You restored your preferred version here[1] after I reverted you here[2]. I was the second (or third) user to revert you. Please respect WP:BRD. If you feel that this article has neutrality problems, please be more specific about these problems. And please use (correct) edit summaries. In my edit summary, I already named the problems I see with your preferred version: "I don't agree with the claim that R. is mostly due to prejudice / propaganda / media". Let me explain further: If we include "fear of Russia" in our definition, there are nations having good reasons for fearing Russia, especially in those areas that have suffered from Russian imperialism: The Baltic states, Poland, Ukraine and others. Of course we have to distinguish between "Russia" and "Russians" in the sense that there are no good reasons for hatred against Russians. Rsk6400 (talk) 16:32, 8 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Isn't it the definition of prejudice? The fear of "something" because its "something"? Gigman (talk) 16:41, 8 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]
My changes were made for the sake of format and neutrality. They were aimed towards reducing the ammount of citation and text on the first section, which is supposed to be short.
if you see a problem with some terms, remove those terms and lets discuss an alternative for them here. Don't remove 20% of the page with them. It's not necessary. I'll revert back some of my changes. Gigman (talk) 17:05, 8 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Stop edit warring ! Rsk6400 (talk) 17:06, 8 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]
The controversial section was removed, let's discuss it now. Unless there's something else that bothers you. Gigman (talk) 17:10, 8 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]
To be honest I don't really see a problem here at all.
You could've just added "unpleasant personal experience" before prejudices. But you decided to revert everything I did for some reason. Guess it was easier. Gigman (talk) 17:44, 8 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Glebushko0703: Please remember WP:ONUS. It's your task to explain why you think your edits are an improvement, not mine. Above I mentioned nations suffering from Russian imperialism - is this "unpleasant personal experience" ? And, well, there is something else that bothers me: The picture (where is the RS saying that it shows an example of Anti-Russian sentiment ?), the whole tendency to downplay Kremlin politics as a cause (among others, of course) of Russophobia. To be clear: I don't see any uncontroversial part in your recent edits. Rsk6400 (talk) 06:06, 10 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Now that's you've finally expressed all your concerns regarding this page, we can work on improving it. Gigman (talk) 09:10, 10 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I hope you do understand that the page in it's current form is plainly unacceptable, with different topics scattered around.
You can see other "Anti-Sentiment" pages in order to understand what am I talking about. Some sections are simply too long and repetitive, while posing no significant information.
The so called "downplay" you're reffering to is a part of WP:NPOV policy, which this page clearly lacks, featuring non neutral words like "barbaric" several times in different sections.
If you disagree with my edits, let's discuss them here before applying. But for now I'm just going to revert sections that contradict Wikipedia rules. Gigman (talk) 09:25, 10 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]
There was only one instance of "barbaric" which might be understood as being said in wikivoice. I added quotation marks to solve that problem. Rsk6400 (talk) 18:42, 10 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I'm affraid you need a better reason than a generalization such as "I don't see any uncontroversial part in your recent edits". Maybe you you also don't see any of WP:IDONTLIKEIT.
I want you to remember that you don't own this page, and there's enough users who find it inappropriate in it's current form. If in the beginig we started with pro-russian narraniton bias, now we cetrainly face the another bias but from a different side. Gigman (talk) 10:37, 10 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]