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Song that only he could write music for
I wrote a song about my 9-year-old daughter, only I can't write music, I can sing, the only musician in the world that could make this song a reality is Alan Walker. Lgeisler1964 (talk) 01:03, 4 August 2016 (UTC)
What is that song you mentioned? DJ Baguio (talk) 23:09, 14 August 2016 (UTC)
'Sing me to sleep' is my favorite, the vocals are outstanding, but it's the beat that makes it extraordinary.... Signor Fuzzy Bear (talk) 19:17, 10 September 2016 (UTC)
- Actually 137.64.0.34 (talk) 12:33, 25 December 2024 (UTC)
Many beginner music creators are "Inspired by Alan Walker." I think it is notable. --Love Krittaya (talk) 15:36, 23 February 2019 (UTC)
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Infobox -> citizenship
Anyone who regularly edits this page, Are there any sources on his citizenship? I have a very similar situation to Alan with my parents and where I was born and I hold two citizenships. Are we positive that Alan isn't a dual citizen to both the UK and Norway? Seems to me that his infobox should read:
- Norway (1997-present)
United Kingdom (1997-present)
Just a thought,
Briscut (talk) 19:44, 16 January 2017 (UTC)
- The information presented in the infobox is taken from the laws listed on following Wikipedia articles, and I quote:
- Regardless of the place of birth, a child acquires Norwegian citizenship at birth if either parent is a Norwegian citizen. Originally, citizenship was only passed on to the children of Norwegian mothers, as they were the only provable parents, but over time a presumption of paternal parentage created citizenship for the child, and eventually even excluded the maternal jus sanguinis. As of 1 January 1979, mothers' rights to automatically pass on their Norwegian citizenship has been reestablished. The requirement that the mother and father be married to one another was abolished on 1 September 2006.
- British subjects (other than British subjects by virtue of a connection with the Republic of Ireland) and British protected persons lose British nationality upon acquiring any other form of nationality.
- Norway - allows dual citizenship only in exceptional cases. A Norwegian citizen who voluntarily acquires another citizenship automatically loses Norwegian citizenship without notification, and foreigners wanting to naturalize must usually renounce their old citizenship. For details, see Norwegian nationality law - Dual citizenship.
- In most cases, when one becomes a citizen of Norway, it is required as a principal rule that he/she renounce any other citizenship (thereby avoiding dual citizenship). In certain cases there are exceptions from this requirement, and double citizenship is allowed if... :
- I may be wrong, but this is what I get out of the laws, to claim that he only has one citizenship.
- @OnWikiNo: Good work on finding all of those. I almost just want to just write in Norwegian since it looks like you are one but it's an English article so better not. Here's my take on each of those:
- Norwegian nationality law#Descent from a Norwegian parent
Reads straight to the point, if you have a Norwegian parent you are a Norwegian citizen no matter where you are born. A child is also a citizen of the country they are born in too, I was born to a Norwegian mother in the US so I have both a US citizenship and a Norwegian. - British nationality law#Loss of British nationality
This one took me the longest to understand but this is how I understand it. If Alan was to move to and live in a country where he isn't a citizen, any country but Norway or somewhere in the UK, and wanted to become a citizen then he would lose his British citizenship. - Multiple citizenship#EFTA countries
I believe this is just like the one above except he would lose his Norwegian. So if Alan moved to Germany and tried to become a German citizen he would lose both his Norwegian and his British citizenships. - Norwegian nationality law#Dual citizenship
I wish it was given as an example here but I see this just like above, if you have both citizenships at birth you are fine but if you try for another then you lose your Norwegian citizenship.
- Norwegian nationality law#Descent from a Norwegian parent
- How do you see it? The only thing that came up for me was when I was 22 I had to submit papers asking to keep my Norwegian citizenship because I wasn't in Norway and paying taxes. The papers I submitted asked which years I lived in Norway and my identification number. Maybe in the U.K. there is something similar and he didn't retain his citizenship after he became an adult but I think when he moved to Norway he was still a British citizen. What are your thoughts though?
Briscut (talk) 05:51, 17 January 2017 (UTC)
- I must say I agree with you to some point after looking deeper through sites about citizenship legislations. I see that you have experience from having a dual citizenship (one of them in Norway), so it is possible that the same applies to Alan.
- But I already know that the Norwegian authorities make it difficult for people to get or retain dual citizenship. See for example the activist group called "Yes to dual citizenship" [Ja til dobbelt statsborgerskap] in Norway on these pages: http://statsborgerskap.info/ and https://www.facebook.com/JaTilDobbeltStatsborgerskap/, which demands the authorities to allow Norwegians to have dual citizenship. The authorities and UDI [Utlendingsdirektoratet] claims that only a few people allows to retain this, and I wonder when so many people are born of parents abroad by a Norwegian parent and vice versa, that they then claims it to only happening in rare cases when so may have the ability/right to have dual citizenship by birth. But it also could be a bad clarification from the authorities, I don't know.
- I recently discovered some information on The Norwegian Directorate of Immigration (UDI) web site: https://www.udi.no/ord-og-begreper/dobbelt-statsborgerskap/ supporting what you says about Dual citizenship, and I translated it to English:
- "Who can have dual citizenship?"
- "You can have dual citizenship if you got one citizenship from each of your parents when you were born. If one of your parents is Norwegian, you were probably automatically Norwegian citizenship at birth. If the country to the other parent has the same rule, you also get this citizenship and you can then have dual citizenship. This applies only if you automatically became a citizen of both countries when you were born, not if your parents did something active (for example, made an application or message) that you might get other nationality."
- "Who can have dual citizenship?"
- Here it says that the same law also must applies in the country where Alan was born - to have the same affect in both countries, Great Britain in this case. But I'm not quite sure how the legislation in Britain is designed.
- If it turns out that he has dual citizenship, there is then no longer any point to erect it in the info box, but rather mention a sentence about it under "Early life". It was written and clarified in the info box to show when and where he became a citizen (because many readers seemed to be confused about his conections towards these countries), but if he has been a citizen of both countries in his whole life, there is no longer a need to distinguish it.
- @OnWikiNo: You don't think that the activist group is lobbying for refugees to be able to hold/keep their citizenship from where they came from and get one from Norway as well? I haven't had time to read much since I'm on a work trip. Truthfully, I don't think that part of the infobox matters too much with how exact it is, I just saw that his history is similar to mine in a way and thought it might be wrong. If there isn't an interview with him talking about it then I don't think it matters too much, there's other info that's more important.
Briscut (talk) 04:04, 19 January 2017 (UTC)
- @OnWikiNo: You don't think that the activist group is lobbying for refugees to be able to hold/keep their citizenship from where they came from and get one from Norway as well? I haven't had time to read much since I'm on a work trip. Truthfully, I don't think that part of the infobox matters too much with how exact it is, I just saw that his history is similar to mine in a way and thought it might be wrong. If there isn't an interview with him talking about it then I don't think it matters too much, there's other info that's more important.
- I can agree with you on that, after reading some more in what I have found. It was also therefore I removed the dates of when he got citizenship and when he presumably lost it, but since we aren't sure that he ever lost it, we can only assume that he may have a dual citizenship, something that makes this case less significant to even use time to explaine in the infobox. As I mentioned earlier, i'm still unsure about the laws in the United Kingdom, but since they have high tolerance on dual citizenship, I can only assume it to be easier to retain even when he's residing in Norway. I only chosen to write an centences about it in the "Eary life" section, and the current information in the infobox shoud now be pretty neutral, but if people still thinks it doesn't have a purpose, then it's optional to remove it. Nothing is currently important in this case, as long as he hasn't mentioned it in a interview yet.
- OnWikiNo (talk) 11:00, 19 January 2017 (UTC)
- @OnWikiNo: Ok, great! This is why I like editing on Wiki, the great community plus I feel like I learn more when I make the edits than just reading the different articles. Thanks for being easy to work with and talk to!
Briscut (talk) 03:46, 20 January 2017 (UTC)
- @OnWikiNo: Ok, great! This is why I like editing on Wiki, the great community plus I feel like I learn more when I make the edits than just reading the different articles. Thanks for being easy to work with and talk to!
DJ Ness is Whistle but not officially recognized in Wikipedia
User:OnWikiNo, David Whistle might be DJ Ness but that doesn't mean his alias can be used to meet the requirements of infobox policies. As David Whistle, he only collaborated one time (1) with Alan Walker. The topic is about Alan Walker and David Whistle, not DJ Walkzzz and DJ Ness. - TheMagnificentist 14:03, 19 January 2017 (UTC)
- I understand your point, and will leave out the collaboration parameter per se.
- OnWikiNo (talk) 14:25, 19 January 2017 (UTC)
Date of birth
@84.90.140.221: @148.69.12.92: Please stop changing Walker's date of birth without a reliable source, his current DOB is provided by his biography from Billboard. Moreover, you are currently engaged in an edit war as you have violated the three-revert rule, being involved in an edit war can result in your being blocked from editing. Thank you. Hayman30 (talk) 10:08, 7 April 2017 (UTC)
2017
Walker released a collection of remixes from his single titled "Alone", from artists such as Lost Frequencies, Alex Arcoleo, Blazars, and more.
Alan Walker Recently released an instrumental version of a future song titled "Ignite", a collaboration project with K-391, a fellow Norwegian electronic music producer. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Besco101 (talk • contribs) 17:36, 22 April 2017 (UTC)
Whoever though his song "Fade" is a drumstep song is seriously misguided on defining a song's genre. The song bears all the typical characteristics of a House song, albeit of a much lower tempo than usual. On the NCS Soundcloud page, Alan Walker's songs are classified as "Melodic House". 2404:4408:243C:F400:7D41:1398:7BB:2845 (talk) 05:32, 3 June 2017 (UTC)
- @2404:4408:243C:F400:7D41:1398:7BB:2845: "Fade" could be melodic house but you provided no reliable source to verify that, sounds like it's solely based on your opinion on the song. Also, we do not capitalize genres on Wikipedia, please familiarize yourself with MOS:CAPS. Thank you. Hayman30 (talk) 06:02, 3 June 2017 (UTC)
Requested move 4 September 2017
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The result of the move request was: no consensus; not moved. While the subject currently dominates page views, it's too soon to make a call for long-term significance. Wait a few years, then reassess. wbm1058 (talk) 18:26, 17 October 2017 (UTC)
– Alan Walker (music producer) have the highest page view in Alan Walker article (see statistics). Also the Google search term "Alan Walker" refers to this page. Hddty. (talk) 15:46, 4 September 2017 (UTC) --Relisting. No such user (talk) 11:01, 20 September 2017 (UTC) --Relisting. DrStrauss talk 14:49, 29 September 2017 (UTC)--Relisting. Regards, Krishna Chaitanya Velaga (talk • mail) 09:46, 10 October 2017 (UTC)
- Support, because Alan Walker (music producer) has significantly higher views and the readers' convenience should be prioritized ahead of naming neutrality (unless there's a guideline or policy that says view counts don't matter). — Zawl 15:59, 4 September 2017 (UTC)
- Oppose @Zawl: yes there is such a guideline which says that view counts are not the only criteria. To replace all other Alan Walkers in world history the Norwegian DJ would have to pass the second test of WP:PRIMARYTOPIC assessed by the "Alan Walker" test in GBooks. In ictu oculi (talk) 21:53, 4 September 2017 (UTC)
- @In ictu oculi: His name doesn't appear at Google Books is mainly because Alan Walker (musicologist) that wrote many books. I also found that Alan Walker (music producer) have more page view than Alan Walker (see statistics), and this page has the highest page size among article in Alan Walker. Hddty. (talk) 13:28, 5 September 2017 (UTC)
- No, the reason the DJ doesn't appear in books is because he isn't notable. That's the whole point of the WP:PRIMARYTOPIC guideline to prevent a DJ with one 7-charting DJ from displacing a dozen people including Sir Alan Walker. In ictu oculi (talk) 15:23, 5 September 2017 (UTC)
- @In ictu oculi: His name doesn't appear at Google Books is mainly because Alan Walker (musicologist) that wrote many books. I also found that Alan Walker (music producer) have more page view than Alan Walker (see statistics), and this page has the highest page size among article in Alan Walker. Hddty. (talk) 13:28, 5 September 2017 (UTC)
- Oppose. There are 8 entries listed upon English Wikipedia's Alan Walker dab page — too many to single out one that is not a household name in the English-speaking world. As for the two additional names under "See also" — Allan Walker and Allen Walker — those can be accessed directly, aside from this dab page, by typing those exact name forms. Analogously, the music producer can also be accessed directly by typing the redirects Alan Olav Walker, Olav Walker or DJ Walkzz, if he is sufficiently well known by those alternative names. —Roman Spinner (talk)(contribs) 15:09, 21 September 2017 (UTC)
- Support per nom. Unreal7 (talk) 20:37, 26 September 2017 (UTC)
- Oppose. This isn't even a case of the problem with page views, even the page views don't support this individual being the primary topic over all other meanings taken together. Andrewa (talk) 21:43, 27 September 2017 (UTC)]
- Support. This is clearly the WP:PRIMARYTOPIC. It gets *98%* of the page views. Let's have our navigation setup follow what virtually all readers are looking for.--Cúchullain t/c 20:01, 28 September 2017 (UTC)
- Support per Cuchullain. Pageviews are not everything, but 98% of pageviews is pretty darn close. Dohn joe (talk) 16:38, 29 September 2017 (UTC)
- Oppose page views aren't a gauge of notability, merely a suggestion of such. Mentions in enough reliable sources are the actual standard of notability. The DJ clearly doesn't have that kind of coverage, regardless of page views.ZXCVBNM (TALK) 17:30, 29 September 2017 (UTC)
- Support - I'm naturally suspicious of page views for various reasons, but as a highly successful top selling musician I think he does outstrip the other journeymen sportspeople and others, and as others have said, 98% is a pretty large number. — Amakuru (talk) 10:38, 6 October 2017 (UTC)
- Support per Cuchullian additionally the presumption above "the DJ clearly doesn't have that kind of coverage" is exactly that- a presumption. He's clearly doing something right and getting the coverage he needs to be getting 98% of the pageviews. jcc (tea and biscuits) 21:53, 7 October 2017 (UTC)
- Oppose. A 20-year-old music personality is obviously going to get a lot of internet coverage. It doesn't make him the primary topic when we have so many people by that name. -- Necrothesp (talk) 13:37, 11 October 2017 (UTC)
- Oppose One hit and transient attention isn't enough to make the DJ/producer the primary topic over the three influential scholars and the rest put together. —innotata 10:12, 12 October 2017 (UTC)
- Oppose Mostly per innotata, and per Roman Spinner. —usernamekiran(talk) 20:38, 13 October 2017 (UTC)
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Requested move 23 January 2018
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The result of the move request was: not moved. (closed by page mover) GeoffreyT2000 (talk) 23:42, 30 January 2018 (UTC)
Alan Walker (music producer) → Alan Walker (musician) – "Musican" is a much simpler, shorter, and more widely-used dab to describe the subject of the article. "Music producer" is simply unnecessary - WP:CONCISE. Lazz_R 20:33, 23 January 2018 (UTC)
- Oppose: Musican name is not suit at Alan Walker. He is well known music producer. If you change this name then it became a great problem for all viewers. I am not support at this. Siddiq Sazzad (Chat) 09:25, 30 January 2018 (UTC)
- Oppose Music Producer is the term which is widely used in modern times to denote EDM producers. Musician is not the right term for the person like Alan Walker. Anmolbhat (talk) 09:33, 30 January 2018 (UTC)
- Oppose. Walker is a producer as he uses production tools like digital audio workstation to produce music. A musician would be more to actual instruments like piano, etc. — Zawl 10:24, 30 January 2018 (UTC)
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Third-party
Hi wishlist's user,
How to fix the Third-party issues. We should discuss about this. Siddiqsazzad001 (Talk) 08:26, 15 February 2018 (UTC)
Discuss
Semi-protected edit request on 30 May 2018
Change "The track has over 300 million views on YouTube,[12] 800 million plays on Spotify,[13] and 20 million streams on SoundCloud."
to "The track has over 300 million views on YouTube,[12] 79 million plays on Spotify,[13] and 20 million streams on SoundCloud."
The information currently presented is inaccurate, as the song mentioned, "Fade" only currently has 79 million streams on Spotify. These Spotify facts are most likely confused with Alan Walker's other single, "Faded", which does have over 800 million streams on Spotify. 2606:6000:CACB:DB00:14FB:26F4:5F2B:9938 (talk) 04:49, 30 May 2018 (UTC)
Done See this [1]. Siddiqsazzad001 <Talk/> 05:27, 30 May 2018 (UTC)
Semi-protected edit request on 5 April 2019
Change Alan Walker's youtube channel's 22.1 million subscribers as of March 14 to 23.8 million as of April 4 DRlVE (talk) 01:27, 5 April 2019 (UTC)
Done Saucy[talk – contribs] 06:23, 6 April 2019 (UTC)
Semi-protected edit request on 7 May 2019
Could you add the fact that Alan collaborated with the game PUBG Mobile ,providing mutiple videos about the game in his channel and adding a set of Alan Walker themed skins to the game? 119.236.11.97 (talk) 10:53, 7 May 2019 (UTC)
Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. In addition, this seems like it might be too much detail for this article. If you disagree, please explain. ‑‑ElHef (Meep?) 12:57, 7 May 2019 (UTC)
Semi-protected edit request on 7 September 2019
The career portion is not updated so I want to edit it. Aksh910 (talk) 03:59, 7 September 2019 (UTC)
Not done. It's not clear what changes you want to make. Please make a a precise request. –Deacon Vorbis (carbon • videos) 04:14, 7 September 2019 (UTC)
- Career section says his video "Faded" has 400 million views on youtube. As of right now it is (an astonishing) 3.1 Billion views.
Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 10:23, 8 August 2021 (UTC)
- Reliable source? Like a screenshot? You can go to youtube, search "Faded" and see it is the first result. Right next to the video thumbnail it says 3.1B views. It would take all of ten seconds.
Screw it, I'll leave it set as answered. There always seems to be an issue with wikipedia in one way or another over the years. Think I'll go with the other, galaxy spanning info site.
My Friend Has a Fear
Hello there. If anyone's listening, would you please mind answering me ? My friend fears that Alan Walker is a puppet of Illuminati, and here are the links to two videos he cited as evidence: 1) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tEcQjtKZmSQ 2) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gtY1QurbeF4 Please help me pacify him. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sam Ruben Abraham (talk • contribs) 09:59, 12 July 2020 (UTC)
Semi-protected edit request on 19 October 2020
Alan's youtube channel name has been changed from DjWalkzz to Alan Walker. Please change that. Electrostorms (talk) 02:33, 19 October 2020 (UTC)
Alan is ranked 26th on DJ Mag 2020
After new rankings by DJ Mag, Alan Walker is ranked 26th out of 100 in 2020. This information must be taken into consideration for editing. Adssr (talk) 09:16, 17 November 2020 (UTC)
World of Walker
We need info on this album. Who he worked with, how long it took to record, themes, inspiration, future projects, how it performed globally etc. 41.116.84.133 (talk) 12:43, 23 March 2022 (UTC)
GSOC 2022 Microtask 1 - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T300454
websites
Alan Walker has two websites, one for his music art and the other for his games. I noticed the Youtube channels section contains both his Gaming channel and his Music channel so I thought it'll be uniform if we added his gaming website.
Muluh MG Godson (talk) 06:02, 30 March 2022 (UTC) Muluh MG Godson (talk) 06:02, 30 March 2022 (UTC)
Done Happy editing! :) --Ferien (talk) 17:29, 31 March 2022 (UTC)
Requested move 15 April 2022
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The result of the move request was: moved. The typical usage vs. long-term significance debate. The opposers mainly argued that he isn't clearly possessing long-term significance dominance, but did not conclusively argue that any other Alan Walker was primary on this ground. On the other hand, the supporters demonstrated that usage-wise, the producer is heavily favoured, tipping the scales. (non-admin closure) — Ceso femmuin mbolgaig mbung, mellohi! (投稿) 02:41, 14 May 2022 (UTC)
– reassessing Talk:Alan Walker (music producer)#Requested move 4 September 2017 as he has become more popular over time 207.81.187.41 (talk) 20:01, 15 April 2022 (UTC) — Relisting. Steel1943 (talk) 19:47, 5 May 2022 (UTC)
- Support, he gets about 42 times more views than the next most viewed Alan Walker, he currently has the 50th most-subscribed to YouTube channel and has won multiple awards. Sahaib (talk) 20:56, 15 April 2022 (UTC)
- Oppose. There is no way that this 24-year-old is primary over all the other Alan Walkers put together, especially in long-term significance. -- Necrothesp (talk) 14:41, 21 April 2022 (UTC)
- @Necrothesp:, sounds like WP:IDONTLIKEIT as the age of the person does not matter. The subject has WP:SUSTAINED coverage for about a decade and this is not a case of WP:RECENTISM. Sahaib (talk) 16:41, 21 April 2022 (UTC)
- No, just clearly not any sort of long-term significance yet established. Still WP:RECENTISM in the grand scheme of things. Pageviews are not the be all and end all. -- Necrothesp (talk) 21:50, 21 April 2022 (UTC)
- @Necrothesp:, sounds like WP:IDONTLIKEIT as the age of the person does not matter. The subject has WP:SUSTAINED coverage for about a decade and this is not a case of WP:RECENTISM. Sahaib (talk) 16:41, 21 April 2022 (UTC)
- Oppose I'm not convinced that this guy has greater long term significance than all the others put together. The social scientist, for example, seems like he was quite influential. (t · c) buidhe 03:46, 25 April 2022 (UTC)
- Oppose, absent evidence of superior long-term significance, as per both Necrothesp and Buidhe. BD2412 T 20:12, 1 May 2022 (UTC)
- Support per massive pageview differential. I'm a bit confused by the reasoning of these opposes. WP:PTOPIC does not require that a subject have "greater long term significance than all the others put together" to be primary. e.g. taking the long view, Anne Hathaway (wife of Shakespeare) certainly has more long-term significance than Anne Hathaway, but we make the actress the ptopic because it's the arrangement that will most efficiently get readers to the page they're looking for (for now - and probably for at least the next several decades). WP:PTOPIC is a balancing test. If one criterion is satisfied by a mile, and the other is a wash (as seems to be the case here), that's generally still quite sufficient to establish a primary topic. Colin M (talk) 14:37, 5 May 2022 (UTC)
- As far as Anne Hathaway is concerned, that move was actually pretty controversial and only happened after the third attempt, so basically this is a WP:OSE argument. It certainly didn't establish an overriding consensus. And the individual in question here is a damned sight less notable than the actress in question there. -- Necrothesp (talk) 15:34, 5 May 2022 (UTC)
- Support While there are other Alan Walkers, this one's page has a vast pageview difference compared to the others. Also, just because he is 24 doesn't mean he isn't currently more notable than others. Try Googling his name. Nythar (talk) 10:26, 9 May 2022 (UTC)
- Support. The DAB page alone received more views than every other Alan Walker I checked last year. That tells me the current setup is not working. The page can be moved again if the music producer falls to obscurity (it's happened with other pages before). Nohomersryan (talk) 21:46, 9 May 2022 (UTC)
Basshunter is definitely one of inspirations or influences on Alan Walker music. Is there any source which mention it? Eurohunter (talk) 15:01, 5 August 2023 (UTC)
Language
This whole article is horribly written, language wise. 62.192.163.37 (talk) 02:05, 7 January 2024 (UTC)
Birth date
I am alan walker and I was born in july 19 2000 102.213.69.48 (talk) 11:20, 30 January 2024 (UTC)
- Post that to Alan Walker's official site and we can use it as a reference. Geraldo Perez (talk) 16:54, 30 January 2024 (UTC)
Nationality context in lead
Walker is a dual national UK and Norway at birth due to his parents. He moved to Norway at age two where he grew up, continues to live, started his career, did all his notable activities and where he is based. MOS:FIRSTBIO says the nationality content in the intro is "Context (location, nationality, etc.) for the activities that made the person notable" which is Norway and MOS:CONTEXTBIO says "... neither previous nationalities nor the country of birth should be mentioned in the opening paragraph unless relevant to the subject's notability" which excludes UK from mention in lead as he has done nothing there and UK is basically irrelevant to his life and career. Geraldo Perez (talk) 03:42, 17 March 2024 (UTC)
- Still british-Norwegian but more Norwegian as he has both citizenship 2A02:C7C:F627:D000:9DED:E735:92D6:A75A (talk) 17:42, 12 May 2025 (UTC)
- Still doesn't go in lead for reasons given. Mentioned in article. Geraldo Perez (talk) 17:58, 12 May 2025 (UTC)
New Infobox picture?
I propose to replace the currently used information box image with the image below. I think the new photo is good because it was taken in September 2024. This is a photo preview of the information box I propose. What do you all think? Please let me know if you have any objections.
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Current photo
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Suggested photo
Meganenohito (talk) 09:52, 7 November 2024 (UTC)
- Contrast is poor on the suggested replacement, hard to make out details of what he is wearing. Just see a face in a dark background. Geraldo Perez (talk) 17:13, 7 November 2024 (UTC)
- Correct the contrast of this photo. Meganenohito (talk) 03:21, 8 November 2024 (UTC)
- Fixed. Meganenohito (talk) 03:58, 8 November 2024 (UTC)
- Much better, no issue using that one. Geraldo Perez (talk) 04:02, 8 November 2024 (UTC)
- I have changed the infobox picture. Any further opinions are welcome here :) Meganenohito (talk) 05:24, 8 November 2024 (UTC)
- Much better, no issue using that one. Geraldo Perez (talk) 04:02, 8 November 2024 (UTC)
- Fixed. Meganenohito (talk) 03:58, 8 November 2024 (UTC)
- Correct the contrast of this photo. Meganenohito (talk) 03:21, 8 November 2024 (UTC)
Is David Whistle Italian or Spanish?
David Whistle is mentioned in the career section as an inspiration for Walker, but articles in DJ Mag and Mashable say he is Italian, while articles in Billboard and We Rave You say he is Spanish. Is David Whistler Italian or Spanish? Meganenohito (talk) 07:49, 14 February 2025 (UTC)
GA review
The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
- This review is transcluded from Talk:Alan Walker/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.
Nominator: Meganenohito (talk · contribs) 07:53, 23 November 2024 (UTC)
Reviewer: GoldRomean (talk · contribs) 16:49, 20 June 2025 (UTC)
Hello! Taking this. Comments to come in a week or two. GoldRomean (talk) 16:49, 20 June 2025 (UTC)
- @Meganenohito, are you active/able to respond to suggestions at the moment? GoldRomean (talk) 23:15, 21 June 2025 (UTC)
- Yes, I am ready to accept the proposal. Meganenohito (talk) 01:50, 22 June 2025 (UTC)
- Okay, thanks! You haden't been active for a bit, so I was just making sure. The article is somewhat long, and I am a bit busy at the moment, but I'll get to this in time (before a week or two). Cheers, GoldRomean (talk) 02:28, 22 June 2025 (UTC)
- Yes, I am ready to accept the proposal. Meganenohito (talk) 01:50, 22 June 2025 (UTC)
- Yes, you may putting this review. Meganenohito (talk) 01:40, 24 June 2025 (UTC)
- Thanks for the quick responses! Am sorry, the article is long-ish. I'll try chipping away at bits of it from time to time when I am able. Any delays on my part will not affect the status of this nom :). GoldRomean (talk) 00:38, 27 June 2025 (UTC)
- Unrelated to GAN, but if you could find a way to archive the talk page, which goes back to 2016, that would be great! It’s ok if not too. GoldRomean (talk) 03:03, 28 June 2025 (UTC)
- A friendly ping @GoldRomean? Geschichte (talk) 09:18, 7 August 2025 (UTC)
- Thanks for the reminder (also, I accidentally rollbacked you, sorry about that!). GoldRomean (talk) 19:12, 7 August 2025 (UTC)
- A friendly ping @GoldRomean? Geschichte (talk) 09:18, 7 August 2025 (UTC)
- Unrelated to GAN, but if you could find a way to archive the talk page, which goes back to 2016, that would be great! It’s ok if not too. GoldRomean (talk) 03:03, 28 June 2025 (UTC)
- Thanks for the quick responses! Am sorry, the article is long-ish. I'll try chipping away at bits of it from time to time when I am able. Any delays on my part will not affect the status of this nom :). GoldRomean (talk) 00:38, 27 June 2025 (UTC)
Criteria
Good Article review progress box
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What to do about WP:OR issues? Meganenohito (talk) 03:56, 1 September 2025 (UTC)
- Sorry, was meaning to follow up about this. I suggest going through the article and removing information that may be too detailed to be mentioned here in the main article (and is sourced relatively weakly). But overall I think after that I think it's good to go. GoldRomean (talk) 05:00, 1 September 2025 (UTC)
- Removed information deemed too detailed for the main article. What do you think? Meganenohito (talk) 14:06, 1 September 2025 (UTC)
- I like it. Passing, congrats :). GoldRomean (talk) 19:17, 1 September 2025 (UTC)
- Removed information deemed too detailed for the main article. What do you think? Meganenohito (talk) 14:06, 1 September 2025 (UTC)
Prose review
You can use {{Done}} or strikethrough once things are fixed :). GoldRomean (talk) 02:09, 24 June 2025 (UTC)
Lead
- There shouldn't be any sources in the lead; since the lead is a summary of the article, all the info should be found and sourced in the main prose.
Done
- Walker seems to be the main "author" of "All Falls Down" and "Darkside", so not sure the other artists need to be mentioned.
Done
reached as high as number 80
- removeas high as
Done
- Explain what
triple platinum
is.
Done
In 2016, after releasing the singles "Sing Me to Sleep" and "Alone", in 2017 released the single "The Spectre", a vocal remake of an early song, "Spectre", which reached the top 10 on the Norwegian, Swiss, and Polish charts.
- "In 2016..., in 2017" - sentence isn't grammatically correct, and clarify - did the remake or the early song reach top 10?
Done
which was released in September of the same year
- change toWalker was ranked number 13th on the YEAR_HERE Billboard 21 Under 21
.
Done
- Again, not sure if mentioning the other artists for "All Falls Down" is needed in the lead.
Done
the song "Darkside
- no need to say "the song", pretty much implied.
Done
- Again, necessary to mention other artists? Consider this for the entire lead.
Done
- Comma after
"Are You Lonely"
.
Done
In 2023, Walker ranked
Done
- I wouldn't say
as of February 2023
, probably justin February 2023
.
Done
In a rating of the most subscribed YouTube channels in Norway by vidIQ, Walker is ranked at the top of the list with around 45.7 million subscribers as of March 2024. He remains the most-subscribed user as of May 2025 with 46.8 million subscribers.
- simplify, just say something likeAs of May 2025, Walker has the most subscribed YouTube channel in Norway, at around 46.8 million subscribers
.
Done
- There is nothing in the lead about any of his music after 2021 or significant accolades.
Done
- “He then released the single "All Falls Down" in October of the same year, which met with similar success as its predecessor.” - What predecessor? Did you mean predecessors?
Done
- No mention of his debut album? Or did I miss it?
Done
- The lead only goes up to 2021, really, I don’t think a list of every song is needed, but Walkerverse and Walkerworld should be mentioned, perhaps less important chartings of individual songs could be omitted.
Done
Early life
- Remove the "a" from
a Norwegian mother
.
Done
with his two siblings
? What about his parents?
He was originally most interested
toas a child, he was interested
Done
- Remove
in the center of
, linkBergen
.
Done
During middle school, he started making music. Originally, he loved listening to music, but knew very little about it. As a result, he started learning music and production by watching YouTube tutorials.
toWhen he was in middle school, Walker began learning music and production through YouTube tutorials and begain making music.
Done
- "Grandparent's garden" part irrelevant?
Done
- Remove "from high school" in
after graduating from high school
.
Done
serve his country in the military
toserve in the Norwegian military
(linked).
Done
2012–2015: Career beginnings and breakthrough
also known as DJ Ness
- Too much detail, choose primary name and remove the other.
Done
- Confusing - was he inspired by DJ Ness or the others listed?
Done
He started producing
toWalker started producing
- Also, this sentence contradicts/repeats the next sentence.
Done
He was also inspired by Norwegian music producer K-391 and Dutch music producer Ahrix,[19] and film composers Hans Zimmer and Steve Jablonsky.
Done
2016: "Sing Me to Sleep" and "Alone"
- Not sure if the quote in paragraph 1 is needed/necessary.
Done
but "Faded" marks his first single
→"Faded" marked his first single
Done
Four weeks previously
- you could just move it to before the April sentence and say something likein March…
Done
and featured the same female vocalist Iselin Solheim as "Faded"
- could just remove this, to keep things shorter.
Done
2017–2018: Different World
- Comma after
Between Febuary and April, he toured around America
.
Done
- Link the song, and I think you could remove everything after
"Ignite" featuring K-391
- this can all be explained in the song’s article and might be too much detail for here. See if you can cut some similar stuff for the following paragraphs as well in the Career section—maybe cut the nonessential stuff and combine into one paragraph? Similar to the way FA Taylor Swift is structured, with less emphasis on individual songs.
Done
is coming later in the year
→was coming later in the year
Done
In April, he performed at the Coachella 2018 music festival in Indio, California.
- who?
Done
2019–2021: World of Walker, Walker Racing League and Collaboration with PUBG Mobile
Fade, Spectre, Force
→"Fade", "Spectre", "Force"
Done
2.5 2022–2023: Walkerverse and Walkerworld
- Did some copyediting here, if you want to check and trimming, like what I mentioned above.
Following sections
- I read over the following sections, they all look good. The main thing is see if you can rely less on quotes and either just remove them or paraphrase :).
- As above, lots of quotes in “Artistry” section (almost all quotes).
- The fan app should be referred to with past tense.
Source review
Nice job on the prose; looks good now! I'll be away for the next week or so, but hoping finish up the source review as soon as I get back. Again, I'm so sorry for letting this go so long, and thanks for your prompt responses :). GoldRomean (talk) 01:23, 18 August 2025 (UTC)
- One thing - there’s no mention of anything past 2022 in the lead. GoldRomean (talk) 14:38, 18 August 2025 (UTC)
- [15]

- [49]

- [86]
- Doesn’t say the announcement was on YouTube. - [97]

- [146]
- Doesn’t mention that it was the sequel to “Alone”. - [156]

- [181]

- [196]

- [234]

- [246]

- [276]

- [283]

- [289]

- [4]

- [6]

- Any reason [289] is bundled?
Other criteria
Is American Patriot News officially part of US military? If not, not sure if it can be tagged as such. Otherwise, images are good. Scope, copyvios also fine. Placing on hold until the following is addressed; otherwise looks good! GoldRomean (talk) 16:08, 22 August 2025 (UTC)
- The description of the American Patriot News (now Military News) channel says, " All content on the channel is exclusively provided by soldiers, operators or by U.S. Department of Defense. All videos are loaded with appropriate permissions from the providers." [2] Meganenohito (talk) 02:41, 23 August 2025 (UTC)
- Does that give permission to reuse though? Agh I'm not sure, I'll ask around :). GoldRomean (talk) 11:28, 27 August 2025 (UTC)
Fan POV and reliance on interviews
The lede is far too long and detailed.
The Early Life section seems overly detailed. It's difficult to determine the nature of the references used due to access problems and translation. They appear to have a strong human interest perspective when not outright promotional or just an interview. Such problems with the references and how they're used seem to extend throughout the article. --Hipal (talk) 18:08, 22 August 2025 (UTC)
- Thanks for your comments! I agree that the lead is too long. The early life section could/should be shortened, but isn’t that bad. As a Norwegian artist, naturally many of the sources are in Norwegian (but this article could benefit from stronger sources). GoldRomean (talk) 20:10, 22 August 2025 (UTC)
- To be clearer, the lede strays from WP:LEDE by being overly detailed rather than summarizing the article with emphasis on the most important events of his life.
- The problems with the poorer sources and questionable detail are not restricted to Early Life, but are just more apparent because that section is so short. --Hipal (talk) 00:00, 23 August 2025 (UTC)
- I made the lead sentence a little shorter, what do you think? Meganenohito (talk) 02:30, 23 August 2025 (UTC)
- Could be trimmed even more but it's looking much better! GoldRomean (talk) 11:27, 27 August 2025 (UTC)
Did you know nomination
- The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was: rejected by reviewer, closed by Launchballer talk 10:32, 11 September 2025 (UTC)
- ... that in December 2018, DJ Alan Walker (pictured) became the first Nordic artist to have their YouTube channel surpass 20 million subscribers?
- Reviewed:
Meganenohito (talk) 04:06, 2 September 2025 (UTC).
| General: Article is new enough and long enough |
|---|
Policy compliance:
- Adequate sourcing:

- Neutral:

- Free of copyright violations, plagiarism, and close paraphrasing:

- Other problems:

Hook eligibility:
- Cited:
- Are we misinterpreting the source? The headline is (translated to en) "On Tuesday, Alan Walker became the first Nordic artist to reach 20 million subscribers on his YouTube channel." Is the word 'artist' critical in the distinction? If so, the hook must clarify this. (See below for similar question regarding others who might have this distinction given a different interpretation) - Interesting:

- Other problems:
- Two further questions:
Is there a reason to use "Scandinavian" in the hook when both the article and the source use "Nordic"? Could you comment on the distinction and whether the wording matters or makes a difference? Would "Nordic" be a more impressive claim as it covers a greater area?are we creating a distinction between an individual with a total number of subscribers, or a single channel with that number of subscribers? (i.e. someone with multiple channels adding up to 20 million versus a single person with a single channel)? I'd imagine we're talking the latter, as our PewDiePie article says he was at 50 million in 2013.I'd like to see some clarity in the article too – perhaps with a footnote?
Image eligibility:
- Freely licensed:

- Used in article:

- Clear at 100px:
- no
| QPQ: None required. |
Overall:
I don't think the image works at this size – it's very dark and with the size of images at DYK, I think it'd just be a dark rectangle. Is there a reason to choose File:Alan Walker Jimmy Fallon Show 2018.png over File:Alan Walker visits Spangdahlem.jpg? If you want to swap it, we should add "(pictured)" to the hook (as well as fixing the image caption). I also think we could possibly make the hook a bit more concise and still retain the point of it ("that milestone" is possibly redundant). Does the following work?
ALT: "... that in December 2018, Alan Walker (pictured) became the first Nordic [artist/musician/whatever to appease clarity/WP:V issue] to have their YouTube channel surpass 20 million subscribers"?
Obviously the ALT hinges on the clarity issues. The article's great though, and it's not going to take much clarification to nudge this across the line. MIDI (talk) 08:59, 4 September 2025 (UTC)
I changed the picture and hook.Meganenohito (talk) 12:04, 4 September 2025 (UTC)
- Thank you. I think the caption need only be Walker's name (so that the image is easily paired up with the hook when it's on DYK), but that might be something that's dealt with on promotion (if the image is selected, too). What do you think of my previous concern about Walker being the first artist with 20 million subs, but others (non-'artists') having done so before him? Is this a legitimate concern, or is the hook sufficiently clear that by 'artist' we mean a practitioner of the arts rather than a content creator?
Perhaps a third opinion would be welcome here – though once I'm convinced (either way!) I am happy this hook is ready to go! MIDI (talk) 13:01, 4 September 2025 (UTC)
Regarding "artist", I don't think it is clear in this hook, I think it would be better to use "musical artist" or "musician".Meganenohito (talk) 13:50, 4 September 2025 (UTC)
- Howsabout:
- "... that in December 2018, DJ Alan Walker (pictured) became the first Nordic artist to have their YouTube channel surpass 20 million subscribers?
- I feel that adding "DJ" implies what is meant by "artist", and does so without rewording what the original source and the article says. Happy to use a different descriptor, but think that this general wording works better.MIDI (talk) 19:14, 4 September 2025 (UTC)
I changed the hook. Meganenohito (talk) 00:39, 5 September 2025 (UTC)
- This is not a review, but are you open to a different hook fact running instead? In recent times, DYK has been discouraging "first" hooks on sourcing and accuracy grounds. Even though his claim is probably easy to prove, some editors have become weary of such hooks in general that it may be safer to go with a backup option. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 23:23, 4 September 2025 (UTC)
- With that in mind, proposing this alt:
- ALT 2: "... that Alan Walker (pictured) performs wearing a mask for anonymity but also to put the focus on the music rather than on him?
- Sources: "Why are you wearing a mask? – It's to keep a low profile [...] The starting point is taken from the computer world, with a focus on anonymity." [3]; "The intention behind my wearing the mask is not necessarily to become a mysterious icon. I wanted the focus on my music more than me as a person" [4] (archive)
- I'll take this opportunity to highlight the WP:MOS shortcomings I've identified in the article – from what I understand, these do not invalidate this nomination nor the recent GA assessment, but there are lots of improvements that could be made to this article. I've added a list to Talk:Alan_Walker#Article_improvements. No need to bang that drum here though, as it's not DYK-relevant, but would be remiss of me not to flag what I've found during this DYK nomination. MIDI (talk) 11:36, 5 September 2025 (UTC)
- With that in mind, proposing this alt:
- This is not a review, but are you open to a different hook fact running instead? In recent times, DYK has been discouraging "first" hooks on sourcing and accuracy grounds. Even though his claim is probably easy to prove, some editors have become weary of such hooks in general that it may be safer to go with a backup option. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 23:23, 4 September 2025 (UTC)
I think this hook is good. Meganenohito (talk) 00:36, 7 September 2025 (UTC)
- Thanks, Meganenohito. I've made a few more edits to the article, some of which are adding {{cn}} templates to a few things. These must be resolved as uncited content would not allow the GAN to pass, which makes this DYK ineligible. Once this is resolved, I'll request a WP:3O before giving my support/approval for Alt 2. MIDI (talk) 10:49, 7 September 2025 (UTC)
Per this edit of mine on the article's talk page, I do not believe the article – either now or at the point of passing WP:GA – qualified to be a Good Article, therefore I don't think it's a valid WP:DYK nomination. No need to be overly verbose here and repeat what I've said there, except to say I think there are WP:V problems with the direct quotes used. Nothing that theoretically can't be resolved with a bit of effort, but as I don't think the article should have been promoted in its current state (or the state as it was), I don't think it should pass WP:DYKNEW either. I have no objection to a different editor taking on this DYK nomination, but I'm stepping aside from it I'm afraid. Sorry, Meganenohito. MIDI (talk) 11:25, 8 September 2025 (UTC)
- @Meganenohito: Two things before I close this: please ping me if the GAN is kept and I will reopen this; consider having a hook about "Unity" ready if RSes talk about it. "that Alan Walker & Sapphire's "Unity" originally featured dozens of his fans" would be an interesting hook.--Launchballer 10:32, 11 September 2025 (UTC)
Article improvements
In reviewing a hook for this article for WP:DYK, I’ve identified the following that should be applied to this article:
- Manual of Style
- MOS:TITLEPUNCT: misplaced punctuation (commas or full stops within the quotation marks surrounding song titles)
- MOS:LQ: Direct quotes featuring commas at the end of (but within) the quote – "Do not follow quoted words or fragments with commas inside the quotation marks, except where a longer quotation has been broken up and the comma is part of the full quotation." There are MANY examples of this.
- MOS:OL: many examples of duplicate links in the same section
- MOS:TITLECAPS: "Land Of The Heroes", "Children Of The Sun"...
- MOS:CONTRACTION: I think I removed some but a few instances remain
- WP:OVERQUOTING – the article scatters banal quotes everywhere – we don't need to follow say that Walker adopted a cat, with "I think [my pets are] absolutely amazing. I love animals!" Similarly, saying "Walker revealed that an upcoming album was coming later in the year" followed by him saying "It's still in progress, not ready". The article simply uses too many quotes when the points could be paraphrased.
- Translation problems. I think there are translated quotes (or translated sources containing translated quotes, therefore a double translation) which has borked the original quote. The article said "I chose to quietly without a mask today"... that's nonsensical. The Google Translation of the source says "I chose to perform without a mask today" which makes perfect sense, especially in the context of this individual. Can we be careful that this hasn't happened elsewhere?
MIDI (talk) 11:19, 5 September 2025 (UTC)
- I have revised the article. Meganenohito (talk) 14:44, 5 September 2025 (UTC)
- Thanks, Meganenohito. In checking some of the mistranslated quotes, there's more that needs doing here. This list includes a couple of translated quotes (we may have poor machine translation on our hands), but we have big WP:V problems with the non-translated quotes, where the wording has been changed (MOS:PMC). Pinging @GoldRomean as GA promoter – I see that WP:OVERQUOTING was raised in the review, rightly so (I even alluded to it later), but I'm surprised the refactored quotes didn't come out in GAN. As things stand, I am unconvinced that the article in its current state should be a Good Article (per WP:GACR6#2, but arguably WP:QF#3). Assuming total and utter good faith on everyone involved, though – there's a lot of work here that's gone on to improve the project, which is commendable. I'm just identifying improvements to this article, and not criticising any user.
- Walker said of its success, "it was mind-blowing"
- the source (en) says "it blew my mind". We mustn't reword direct quotes like this.
- I'm really excited to be on The Tonight Show with Noah Cyrus! I've seen a lot of these shows and performances before, and I'm so happy to be on the same stage with her
- the source (Google translated from no) says "I'm really looking forward to performing on "The Tonight Show" with Noah Cyrus! I've seen the program and many performances before, and it's great to be on the same stage myself". Which is correct? I appreciate the Google translate may not be, but it's sufficiently different to question where the translation for the article came from.
- The song blends Eastern and Western musical influences
- The source (en) says "The track, which also features vocals from Vishal Mishra, blends Eastern and Western musical influences." We are presenting this as a direct quote so we shouldn't paraphrase (no substituting "song" for "track") but we can omit using bracketed ellipses ("[...]").
- Sharing the stage with Alia was amazing. Her energy elevated the performance and the audience really enjoyed it. It was a natural collaboration and the atmosphere onstage was amazing. It was definitely a memorable moment for the audience
- The source (en) says "Sharing the stage with Alia was incredible. Her energy elevated the performance, and the crowd really enjoyed it. It was a spontaneous collaboration, and the vibe on stage was electric—definitely a memorable moment for the audience." Again, we're paraphrasing direct quotes.
- Walker was inspired by Italian music producer DJ Ness, who he cited in an interview as "the artist that inspired me to become a musician."
- This quote just isn't in the source (en). The cited article says "[Interviewer:] The artist who inspired you to become a musician? [Walker:] It’s a group of artists. But the first one who introduced me to music production and taught me the fundamentals was DJ Ness."
- The melody and the way the song progresses is very unique, which later inspired me to make 'Fade'
- The source (en) says "The melodies and the way the track progresses are what's so unique and its what inspired me to create Fade which later on became Faded." More paraphrasing direct quotes.
- I wanted melodies that felt a little irritating, yet incredibly good
- The source (en) says "I love melodies that are catchy. I want them to just stick to my brain. I just want it to be kind of annoying for myself at the same time it’s really good"
- I think it's very important to embrace AI in an era where everything is technology-driven. We need to figure out how we can leverage it
- The source (en) says "I think it’s crucial to embrace AI in a time where everything is technology driven. We need to figure out how we can use it to our advantage."
- "I'm speechless. I've once again realized how generous Alan Walker is
- The source (Google translate from no) says "I am almost speechless here. I am once again confirmed how big a heart Alan Walker has". I appreciate that "I've once again realized" and "I am once again confirmed" might be a result of machine translation, but "I'm speechless" vs. "I am almost speechless here"?
- Walker said of its success, "it was mind-blowing"
- Thanks, Meganenohito. In checking some of the mistranslated quotes, there's more that needs doing here. This list includes a couple of translated quotes (we may have poor machine translation on our hands), but we have big WP:V problems with the non-translated quotes, where the wording has been changed (MOS:PMC). Pinging @GoldRomean as GA promoter – I see that WP:OVERQUOTING was raised in the review, rightly so (I even alluded to it later), but I'm surprised the refactored quotes didn't come out in GAN. As things stand, I am unconvinced that the article in its current state should be a Good Article (per WP:GACR6#2, but arguably WP:QF#3). Assuming total and utter good faith on everyone involved, though – there's a lot of work here that's gone on to improve the project, which is commendable. I'm just identifying improvements to this article, and not criticising any user.
MIDI (talk) 11:16, 8 September 2025 (UTC)
- Hi, thanks for the ping. I did promote the article and should've caught some of these quote and translation issues, so I'll take responsibility for that. Obviously there's more to address here; really appreciate what you've already found so far. Let me know if there's anything I can help with (and of course if you want to take it to WP:GAR that's obviously within your right). Cheers GoldRomean (talk) 22:36, 8 September 2025 (UTC)
- Thanks, GoldRomean. I'll have a think about best next steps and will be sure to keep you in the loop! MIDI (talk) 07:09, 11 September 2025 (UTC)
- I have revised the article. What do you think? Meganenohito (talk) 06:52, 9 September 2025 (UTC)
- Thanks, Meganenohito. I think I'll have to take some time to look at the article to appreciate what needs doing next. As GoldRomean suggests above, this is more deep-seated than a few bullet points and done. I'll certainly use this talk page to identify anything I think of, so you won't miss out on anything. Thank you for all your hard work with the article, though! MIDI (talk) 07:09, 11 September 2025 (UTC)
- I can help out with non-machine translation from Norwegian if necessary. Geschichte (talk) 07:43, 12 September 2025 (UTC)
- To make it easy, just reply below with the links and passages you need translated/quality-checked. Geschichte (talk) 07:36, 15 September 2025 (UTC)
- I can help out with non-machine translation from Norwegian if necessary. Geschichte (talk) 07:43, 12 September 2025 (UTC)
- Thanks, Meganenohito. I think I'll have to take some time to look at the article to appreciate what needs doing next. As GoldRomean suggests above, this is more deep-seated than a few bullet points and done. I'll certainly use this talk page to identify anything I think of, so you won't miss out on anything. Thank you for all your hard work with the article, though! MIDI (talk) 07:09, 11 September 2025 (UTC)
GA Reassessment
The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
- Article (edit | visual edit | history) · Article talk (edit | history) · Watch • • Most recent review
- Result: Kept. Launchballer 22:23, 12 November 2025 (UTC)
Big MOS/WP:V failures as identified by @MIDI: at both the DYK nom and the talk page. Launchballer 10:29, 11 September 2025 (UTC)
- Hiya @Launchballer, the problems mention above appear to have been resolved by Meganenohito. I'm happy to do additional source checking, but is there anything else you're specifically looking for in this reassessment? (Also, for the record, the only parts of the MOS required by the good article criteria are MOS:LEAD, MOS:LAYOUT, MOS:WTW, MOS:WAF, and MOS:LISTS). Cheers, GoldRomean (talk) 12:02, 3 October 2025 (UTC)
- Sorry for dropping this. I still see large amounts of quoting in the article, for example (In an interview with KKBox, he explained his concept, saying, "At first we were thinking about ideas like how can we promote Alan Walker as an artist, but then we started creating symbols that anyone could do, and anyone with a hoodie and a face mask could do it. You can become a 'Walker' right away, and we are all equal."[230] In an interview with NRK, when asked why he used a mask, he said, "It's to keep a low profile while maintaining the image we've given myself [...] The starting point is taken from the computer world, with a focus on anonymity. Anyone can become Alan Walker, and the masks are meant to show that they can be anyone."[60] In an interview with The Hindu, he said he didn't wear the mask "to be some mysterious icon" but rather "I wanted people to focus on my music rather than who I am as a person.") That alone would require {{overquoting}}, and there are lots of instances like this. Also, a lot of the quotes that had been reworded, such as "it blew my mind", I would actually remove from the article altogether on WP:SUMMARY grounds, although I'm not sure if that's part of the GA criteria.--Launchballer 20:46, 11 October 2025 (UTC)
- Thanks for the reply! Definitely agree with your comments. I'll see what I can do :). GoldRomean (talk) 17:29, 12 October 2025 (UTC)
- Wouldn't it be better to move the Artistic Image subsection of Artistry to the Public Image section? Meganenohito (talk) 02:20, 14 October 2025 (UTC)
- Sorry for missing this! I agree, sounds like a good change. GoldRomean (talk) 18:30, 22 October 2025 (UTC)
- Wouldn't it be better to move the Artistic Image subsection of Artistry to the Public Image section? Meganenohito (talk) 02:20, 14 October 2025 (UTC)
- Thanks for the reply! Definitely agree with your comments. I'll see what I can do :). GoldRomean (talk) 17:29, 12 October 2025 (UTC)
- Sorry for dropping this. I still see large amounts of quoting in the article, for example (In an interview with KKBox, he explained his concept, saying, "At first we were thinking about ideas like how can we promote Alan Walker as an artist, but then we started creating symbols that anyone could do, and anyone with a hoodie and a face mask could do it. You can become a 'Walker' right away, and we are all equal."[230] In an interview with NRK, when asked why he used a mask, he said, "It's to keep a low profile while maintaining the image we've given myself [...] The starting point is taken from the computer world, with a focus on anonymity. Anyone can become Alan Walker, and the masks are meant to show that they can be anyone."[60] In an interview with The Hindu, he said he didn't wear the mask "to be some mysterious icon" but rather "I wanted people to focus on my music rather than who I am as a person.") That alone would require {{overquoting}}, and there are lots of instances like this. Also, a lot of the quotes that had been reworded, such as "it blew my mind", I would actually remove from the article altogether on WP:SUMMARY grounds, although I'm not sure if that's part of the GA criteria.--Launchballer 20:46, 11 October 2025 (UTC)
- @Launchballer, GoldRomean, and Meganenohito: What is the status of this? Have the concerns in the nominating statement been resolved? Z1720 (talk) 23:47, 2 November 2025 (UTC)
- It's looking much better on the quote front. When removing the last ones, I saw a couple of sources I didn't care for (things like Apple Music being used in prose to cite a single's existence, which isn't DUE), which I also removed. GoldRomean, seeing as you volunteered to do additional source checking, could you just give the reflist a once over to check I haven't missed any other inappropriate sources?--Launchballer 00:59, 3 November 2025 (UTC)
- Thanks; will do (and I'll keep an eye out for source-text integrity and the like as well). GoldRomean (talk) 14:38, 3 November 2025 (UTC)
- Alright, very sorry for the delay, @Launchballer! I've gone over the article/reflist a couple times, mostly looks good now to me. Any further suggestions for improvements/thoughts on the status of this GAR? Thank you (and everyone else who has commented) again for your time :). GoldRomean (talk) 19:52, 12 November 2025 (UTC)
- No, I think we're done here.--Launchballer 22:22, 12 November 2025 (UTC)
- It's looking much better on the quote front. When removing the last ones, I saw a couple of sources I didn't care for (things like Apple Music being used in prose to cite a single's existence, which isn't DUE), which I also removed. GoldRomean, seeing as you volunteered to do additional source checking, could you just give the reflist a once over to check I haven't missed any other inappropriate sources?--Launchballer 00:59, 3 November 2025 (UTC)
Electropop
I removed electropop because he specifically doesn't work in the genre I think how you can see this Yetneberk Hailu (talk) 13:17, 2 November 2025 (UTC)
