User talk:Alalch E.
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Chaotic Enby (talk · contribs) 16:21, 6 October 2025 (UTC)
- Thank you. —Alalch E. 18:10, 6 October 2025 (UTC)
Recent Edit
Heyyy, I just wanted to reach out and say that a recent edit you made on 15.ai seems to have created some kind of error? At the bottom of the page it says "Cite error: The named reference sold was invoked but never defined (see the help page)". Idk how to fix this so I'm hopeful you might. Thanks! Teppa-Nyxos-XXVII (talk) 23:06, 7 October 2025 (UTC)
- Thank you for the notice. I had noticed it and have been working on it, it is just taking me a little longer. —Alalch E. 23:07, 7 October 2025 (UTC)
- Oh okay, also I'm sorry I honestly didn't look at the timestamps and realize how recent the edits were until just now. My bad! Teppa-Nyxos-XXVII (talk) 23:08, 7 October 2025 (UTC)
- Oh, that's fine, I should not have caused the error in the first place. Do you understand what changes I made to the notes and references, and do you support them? —Alalch E. 23:15, 7 October 2025 (UTC)
- I think I understand it? You changed the "attributed to" statements attached to the sources to something else because the citation itself is an attribution? Unless I'm completely off base then yeah it makes sense to me to make those changes. Teppa-Nyxos-XXVII (talk) 23:26, 7 October 2025 (UTC)
- We provide attribution for quotes, paraphrases, and stating others' opinions. For facts, we reference sources, which means point to where the statement is taken from. We don't "attribute to references", that is illogical. We might attribute to "sources", but that is confusing as well. If we would explicitly state that we are attributing a statement to someone, we would say that we are attributing it to a person, organization, some other entity. But for statements that are merely statements of fact made in WP:WIKIVOICE, we should not say that we are attributing to any such entities, as it is Wikipedia making the statement, unattributed -- but referenced. —Alalch E. 23:31, 7 October 2025 (UTC)
- Ahhh, I seeee. Thank you! Teppa-Nyxos-XXVII (talk) 23:35, 7 October 2025 (UTC)
- You're welcome. —Alalch E. 23:36, 7 October 2025 (UTC)
- Ahhh, I seeee. Thank you! Teppa-Nyxos-XXVII (talk) 23:35, 7 October 2025 (UTC)
- We provide attribution for quotes, paraphrases, and stating others' opinions. For facts, we reference sources, which means point to where the statement is taken from. We don't "attribute to references", that is illogical. We might attribute to "sources", but that is confusing as well. If we would explicitly state that we are attributing a statement to someone, we would say that we are attributing it to a person, organization, some other entity. But for statements that are merely statements of fact made in WP:WIKIVOICE, we should not say that we are attributing to any such entities, as it is Wikipedia making the statement, unattributed -- but referenced. —Alalch E. 23:31, 7 October 2025 (UTC)
- I think I understand it? You changed the "attributed to" statements attached to the sources to something else because the citation itself is an attribution? Unless I'm completely off base then yeah it makes sense to me to make those changes. Teppa-Nyxos-XXVII (talk) 23:26, 7 October 2025 (UTC)
- Oh, that's fine, I should not have caused the error in the first place. Do you understand what changes I made to the notes and references, and do you support them? —Alalch E. 23:15, 7 October 2025 (UTC)
- Oh okay, also I'm sorry I honestly didn't look at the timestamps and realize how recent the edits were until just now. My bad! Teppa-Nyxos-XXVII (talk) 23:08, 7 October 2025 (UTC)
old merge template
Hi, i wanted to ask if you used a WP:USERSCRIPT for this edit, or if you just did it manually. I'd be interested in something like an XfDCloser for mergers. FaviFake (talk) 16:19, 13 October 2025 (UTC)
- also, thanks for the detailed closure. FaviFake (talk) 16:20, 13 October 2025 (UTC)
- You are welcome. I did it manually. I don't think there's such a script, but it'd surely be good to have one. —Alalch E. 18:05, 13 October 2025 (UTC)
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Thanks for the small edits to my essay. I'd seen the RfC close but thought I'd wait a few more days for the followup discussions to settle down. Good to have an (interim?) update though. ClaudineChionh (she/her · talk · email · global) 05:02, 28 November 2025 (UTC)
- You're welcome, glad you approve of them. —Alalch E. 06:14, 28 November 2025 (UTC)
Thanks for RfC closure, and a thought on clarity
I needed to refer to this RfC on citations, and was happy to see a consensus was reached. You seem like a very experienced editor, and I thought maybe you'd want feedback on the closing statement? If not ignore this :-) The closing statement at the top was nearly impossible for me to parse (I'm a native English speaker with several college degrees). I cannot understand the 1st or 3rd paragraphs - at all. The style is exceedingly convoluted and obtuse, as if a grad student was trying to show-off in their thesis. Might I suggest that going forward, you aim for plainer English, shorter sentences, and more clarity? It is not my intention to offend; but if I wrote something in WP that other editors could not understand, I would want someone to tell me. I know that writing RfC closing statements can be a thankless job and I don't want you to interpret this as discouraging you from continuing in that important role. Thanks for all the volunteer work you do! Noleander (talk) 14:32, 11 December 2025 (UTC)
- @Noleander Thanks for this important feedback and the kind words. I think you're a great editor. The problem with my hard-to-understand language in that closing statement was brought to my attention in May -- please see User talk:Alalch E./Archive 4#Your close of RFC on consistent styles and capitalization of titles. There were two main perspectives. One was of someone who really did understand the meaning of the close, but disagreed that it was a proper interpretation of the consensus. I disagreed with that. The issue was discussed and the close stood. (I remember that some other editors also understood the meaning of the close, and those others agreed with it on substance, but they do not appear in this discussion on my talk page.) The other perspective was that the close is just hard to understand. With that I entirely agree, and I apologize for that to everyone. That was unintentional and was the result of my desire to provide a detailed close, because there's a lot of subtlety in the discussion, but I did not have enough time to phrase it in a well-thought-out way. I was typing my thoughts out on my phone and I decided to just post what I had written instead of spending more time the next day working on the language. So yeah, I'm blaming the phone kind of. In any case, doing it that way was negligent on my part, and I've made sure not to use such difficult-to-understand phrasing when closing discussions.
- Incidentally, my last comment in the linked discussion is not far from what would have been my rewrite of that close to make it easier to understand. Edit: actually, my first reply there is better and even clearer, and sums up the entire thing. —Alalch E. 18:24, 11 December 2025 (UTC)
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- Noted. I apologize. —Alalch E. 16:53, 29 December 2025 (UTC)
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- Thank you! Same to you :) —Alalch E. 14:57, 2 January 2026 (UTC)
- Thanks! (Iluziya7 (talk) 14:59, 2 January 2026 (UTC))
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Response to "Supposedly missing information" in the talk page of "Thai Boon Roong Twin Tower World Trade Center"
This Chinese-language video originating from the original construction companies behind the project has lots of information not seen in this wikipedia article and can be used as a reliable source, note that this video was made in 2016 or before due to the timeline of the construction mentioned in the video, however it has not been cancelled unlike what the machine translation suggests and instead got to a halt due to lack of money, meaning that if there's enough money then construction will start, the timeline length of the construction will most likely be the same, the only difference is that it's will of course be in a different year https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1Yp4y1S7CP/?spm_id_from=888.80997.embed_other.whitelist&t=6.554101&bvid=BV1Yp4y1S7CP Here are other chinese media/chinese-language sources that can be used as a reliable source, half of these are reliable sources that have been used in baidu baike https://www.hktdc.com/ncs/ires/sc/s/ThaiBoonRoongTwinTowerWorldTradeCenterCambodia.html https://www.thepaper.cn/newsDetail_forward_1592103 https://www.xinhuanet.com/english/2017-01/01/c_135947903.htm https://caijing.chinadaily.com.cn/finance/2016-12/29/content_27816174.htm https://vip.stock.finance.sina.com.cn/corp/view/vCB_AllBulletinDetail.php?id=2968093 https://www.cnr.cn/hubei/jmct/20170103/t20170103_523429732.shtml https://mp.weixin.qq.com/s?__biz=MjM5OTY0NTgyMg==&mid=2650773525&idx=1&sn=683dce7441ac0036df6b55b14c307f41&chksm=bf337f048844f6121d675b8c1b82c88ba9ee7b029df921ab9a6aea41d1d1e80cbd685710776b&scene=27 https://static.nfapp.southcn.com/content/201612/30/c233238.html https://web.archive.org/web/20170117093421/https://news.ifeng.com/a/20170103/50515339_0.shtml https://baijiahao.baidu.com/s?id=1590661287118070091&wfr=spider&for=pc https://www.nbd.com.cn/articles/2017-01-12/1069631.html http://notice.10jqka.com.cn/api/pdf/4f344e460ad810d8.pdf https://cc-times.com/posts/10844 https://www.toutiao.com/article/6516402409625879053/?wid=1768068883128 https://www.siudz.com/news/jie-mi-jian-pu-zhai-xin-di-biao-zui-gao-lou-bei-hou-de-gu-shi-yu-tiao-zhan.html https://www.163.com/dy/article/FRS98FUF05350VO8.html https://www.linkedin.com/posts/%E7%A5%9E%E5%B7%9E%E9%95%BF%E5%9F%8E%E5%9B%BD%E9%99%85%E5%B7%A5%E7%A8%8B%E6%9C%89%E9%99%90%E5%85%AC%E5%8F%B8_%E8%BF%91%E6%97%A5%E7%A5%9E%E5%B7%9E%E9%95%BF%E5%9F%8E%E5%9B%BD%E9%99%85%E5%B7%A5%E7%A8%8B%E6%9C%89%E9%99%90%E5%85%AC%E5%8F%B8%E4%BB%A5%E4%B8%8B%E7%AE%80%E7%A7%B0%E7%A5%9E%E5%B7%9E%E9%95%BF%E5%9F%8E%E4%B8%8E%E6%AD%A6%E6%98%8C%E8%88%B9%E8%88%B6%E9%87%8D%E5%B7%A5%E9%9B%86%E5%9B%A2%E6%9C%89%E9%99%90%E5%85%AC%E5%8F%B8-activity-6222931803506864128-t0pg https://baike.sogou.com/v158197910.htm https://www.realestate.com.kh/zh-hans/news/double-mansion-lost/ https://www.silkroadinfo.org.cn/2023/0725/c427a162750/page.htm https://m.kekenet.com/read/201701/489060.shtml https://world.people.com.cn/n/2015/0701/c1002-27239842.html https://finance.sina.com.cn/chanjing/gsnews/2017-01-03/doc-ifxzcvfp5780635.shtml?cre=financepagepc&mod=f&loc=1&r=9&doct=0&rfunc=100 https://database.caixin.com/2018-01-29/101204287.html?originReferrer=caixinsearch_wap http://shanxigangjiegou.com/news/show-315.html https://www.imsilkroad.com/news/p/419.html http://econ.chinataiwan.cn/info/201701/t20170104_11669703.htm https://news.sohu.com/20170103/n477630974.shtml https://inews.ifeng.com/50508010/news.shtml?&back https://www.jianhuadaily.com/20190610/55106 https://archpfeffer.wordpress.com/2015/01/29/skycity-phnom-penh/2015-06-035-a-%E5%B7%B4%E9%A9%AC%E4%B8%B9%E6%8B%BF-%E6%9F%AC%E5%9F%94%E5%AF%A8%E9%87%91%E8%BE%B9%E5%8F%8C%E5%AD%90%E5%A1%94%E5%A4%A7%E5%8E%A6-yxh-%E6%96%B9%E6%A1%88%E4%BA%8Czp-%E5%89%AF%E6%9C%AC/ https://xueqiu.com/5435417380/100363537 http://news.cnhubei.com/xw/jj/201701/t3767143.shtml https://m.thepaper.cn/newsDetail_forward_1591585 https://hk.finance.yahoo.com/video/%E5%90%89%E9%9A%86%E5%9D%A1%E9%9B%99%E5%AD%90%E5%A1%94%E5%B0%87%E8%A2%AB%E8%B6%85%E8%B6%8A-%E4%B8%AD%E8%B3%87%E6%9F%AC%E5%9F%94%E5%AF%A8%E5%BB%BA%E5%85%A8%E7%90%83%E6%9C%80%E9%AB%98%E9%9B%99%E5%AD%90%E5%A4%A7%E5%BB%88-120600398.html https://www.tnaot.com/zh/m/detail/article/1711242 https://hkservices.hktdc.com/sc/success-stories/main?industry=infrastructure-real-estate https://news.cnyes.com/news/id/709461 https://www.scg.com.cn/uploadpath/2025/9/1/dfb54b2e-a65a-4ddb-9380-1d22a6f062cd.pdf https://cc-times.com/posts/581 https://www.sunway-group.com.cn/our-businesses/hospitality/ https://beltandroad.hktdc.com/index.php/sc/taxonomy/term/1114?page=4 https://photo.81.cn/jzxs/2019-04/26/content_9490116.htm https://zhuanlan.zhihu.com/p/392584006 http://www.taiwan.cn/xwzx/PoliticsNews/201705/t20170511_11779382.htm https://money.finance.sina.com.cn/corp/view/vCB_AllBulletinDetail.php?stockid=600170&id=10871417 https://www.marine114.com/new_view.asp?id=25329 And let's not forget other videos made by the original construction companies as well as videos on youtube such as news channels featuring information about it https://www.facebook.com/cambodia.property/videos/%E9%87%91%E9%82%8A%E5%B0%87%E5%87%BA%E7%8F%BE%E4%B8%96%E7%95%8C%E7%AC%AC%E4%BA%8C%E9%AB%98%E6%91%A9%E5%A4%A9%E5%A4%A7%E6%A8%93%E5%84%98%E6%AC%A1%E6%96%BC%E6%9D%9C%E6%8B%9C%E7%9A%84%E5%93%88%E5%88%A9%E6%B3%95%E5%A1%94%E6%88%90%E7%82%BA%E4%BA%9E%E6%B4%B2%E7%AC%AC%E4%B8%80%E9%AB%98%E6%A8%93133%E6%A8%93%E9%9B%99%E5%AD%90%E5%A4%A7%E5%BB%88%E4%B8%96%E8%B2%BF%E4%B8%AD%E5%BF%83-%E9%87%91%E9%82%8A%E5%B8%82%E5%9C%8B%E5%9C%9F%E8%A6%8F%E5%8A%83%E5%BB%BA%E8%A8%AD%E5%B1%80%E5%B7%B2%E7%B6%93%E6%89%B9%E5%87%86%E6%B3%B0/204115030094521/?locale=zh_HK https://www.facebook.com/ctm.cosmo/videos/thai-boon-roong-twin-towers-project/389213458159390/?locale=zh_CN https://www.facebook.com/loo.joanne/videos/ctm%E9%9B%86%E5%9B%A2%E5%92%8C%E6%B3%B0%E6%96%87%E9%9A%86%E9%9B%86%E5%9B%A2%E5%B7%B2%E7%BB%8F%E7%AD%BE%E7%BD%B2%E5%90%88%E4%BD%9C%E5%8D%8F%E8%AE%AE%E4%B9%A6%E5%B7%B2%E8%90%BD%E5%AE%9E%E5%B9%B6%E5%85%B1%E5%90%8C%E5%8F%91%E5%B1%95%E4%BD%8D%E4%BA%8E%E6%9F%AC%E5%9F%94%E5%AF%A8%E9%87%91%E8%BE%B9-%E9%87%91%E8%BE%B9%E5%8F%8C%E5%AD%90%E5%A4%A7%E5%8E%A6%E4%B8%96%E8%B4%B8%E4%B8%AD%E5%BF%83-thai-boon-roong-twin-tower-world-/10155428800228401/ https://www.facebook.com/ctm.cosmo/videos/thai-boon-roong-group-ctm-group-twin-tower-world-trade-center-in-cambodia-%E6%9F%AC%E5%9F%94%E5%AF%A8%E9%87%91%E8%BE%B9%E5%8F%8C/400587457021990/ https://www.facebook.com/ctm.cosmo/videos/2017%E5%B9%B412%E6%9C%884%E6%97%A5ctm%E9%9B%86%E5%9B%A2%E5%92%8C%E6%B3%B0%E6%96%87%E9%9A%86%E9%9B%86%E5%9B%A2%E7%AD%BE%E7%BD%B2%E5%90%88%E4%BD%9C%E5%8D%8F%E8%AE%AE%E4%B9%A6%E5%B7%B2%E8%90%BD%E5%AE%9E%E5%B9%B6%E5%85%B1%E5%90%8C%E5%8F%91%E5%B1%95%E4%BD%8D%E4%BA%8E%E6%9F%AC%E5%9F%94%E5%AF%A8%E9%87%91%E8%BE%B9-%E9%87%91%E8%BE%B9%E5%8F%8C%E5%AD%90%E5%A4%A7%E5%8E%A6%E4%B8%96%E8%B4%B8%E4%B8%AD%E5%BF%83-4th-dec-2017-the-ctm-grou/389216168159119/ https://www.facebook.com/100063781141269/videos/176127262988613/?locale=zh_CN https://www.facebook.com/ctm.cosmo/videos/thai-boon-roong-twin-towers-project/389213458159390/?locale=zh_CN https://www.facebook.com/ctm.cosmo/videos/twin-tower-world-trade-center/395371910876878 https://www.tiktok.com/@trek.way/video/7569599945314045192 https://www.facebook.com/ctm.cosmo/videos/%E8%BF%99-%E5%B0%B1%E6%98%AF%E6%9F%AC%E5%9F%94%E5%AF%A8%E5%83%8F%E6%9E%81%E4%BA%8630%E5%B9%B4%E5%89%8D%E7%9A%84%E4%B8%AD%E5%9B%BD/396420827438653/ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JWzfvG-Dhw0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oHcW-wr58is https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h-aO_j3fkwA https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N44r28Tkjc0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sg5E3KbmKLM https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MDu2FyIVNSo https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pU8V8RwwUnc https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PO6rtnvikmk https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oUZbu-yH8LM https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zFHVQ14Rjcc https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NdakDDoeLX8 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m74L5Pn6ekE https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0tNyIOHc9U4 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nbc42eB0zWA https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CruVX3GGFqw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zTPVXPG1IgA https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=27XcrThrZ18 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V4WUgvMDxC8 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jD-sT6QLVdM https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2rk-iVs0_h0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3tHjMHpNpW8 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4m7BtIRGz0s https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pDyS977JY0o https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XCKMLF4i47Y Here are other news reports about it https://www.jinsglobal.com/thai-boon-roong-towers-timetable-yet-to-be-decided/ https://b2b-asianews.com/news/133-story-skyscraper-slated-for-capital/ Of course this project isn't without skepticism, here is a report by Fiona Kelliher skepticising Cambodia's megaporjects and mentions Thai Boon Roong Twin Towers https://southeastasiaglobe.com/the-cambodian-megaprojects-failing-to-materialise/ ~2025-43053-85 (talk) 16:14, 11 January 2026 (UTC)
- Hello. I have looked at some of the sources that you have linked, but only from the first part of your message (those included before the second part of your message, which starts with "
And let's not forget other videos ...
"). I have not looked at any of the sources from the second part of your message (the facebook posts and the youtube videos). I will not look at them. - Taking only the sources from the first part of your message: What information is contained in them that is not contained in the article Thai Boon Roong Twin Tower World Trade Center? —Alalch E. 17:33, 11 January 2026 (UTC)
- Too much to say because of how many things there is to note, so i asked a user named Mwen Sé Kéyòl Translator-a to help with it, wait for a while before they appear ~2025-43053-85 (talk) 16:15, 13 January 2026 (UTC)
- No problem! —Alalch E. 16:34, 13 January 2026 (UTC)
- Thanks, maybe you should ask them instead of us waiting here for them to appear ~2025-43053-85 (talk) 17:13, 13 January 2026 (UTC)
- You're welcome. I will not ask them and will wait instead. —Alalch E. 17:15, 13 January 2026 (UTC)
- Well, i already asked them, but why not you ask them? I do understand your point though. ~2025-43053-85 (talk) 17:25, 13 January 2026 (UTC)
- They haven't responded, maybe you should respond to them ~2025-43053-85 (talk) 17:41, 14 January 2026 (UTC)
- Might I suggest waiting for the weekend? I have added it to my "todo" list but I might not get to it for some weeks to be honest. Komonzia (talk) 17:59, 14 January 2026 (UTC)
- Maybe while we would still wait for them, how about you too will work together with the Thai Boon Roong Twin Tower World Trade Center, Komonzia? ~2025-43053-85 (talk) 18:25, 14 January 2026 (UTC)
- Is there a reason for the hurry? Komonzia (talk) 18:34, 14 January 2026 (UTC)
- Well, it's not meant to be a hurry, i just asked if you can work together on Thai Boon Roong Twin Tower World Trade Center? ~2025-43053-85 (talk) 18:51, 14 January 2026 (UTC)
- Having read the room, Alalch seems happier for someone else to work on it instead. I can't commit to do anything in particular on Wikipedia, though. I also cannot read Chinese (but know machine-translators well enough to determine when a translated claim is reliable or not). Komonzia (talk) 18:55, 14 January 2026 (UTC)
- Well, maybe you should ask any editor you know of to work together on Thai Boon Roong Twin Tower World Trade Center. ~2025-43053-85 (talk) 20:20, 14 January 2026 (UTC)
- You've asked someone on WP:TEAHOUSE and I'm not sure they've seen your message, and you've not waited very long nor pinged them on that page (see HELP:PING). I don't commit to doing anything at all on Wikipedia ever.
- The "you've not waited very long" (I hinted at that when I suggested waiting until the weekend to see if they respond) and your expectation that someone commits to this specific change highlights that you may be unaware that most people who edit Wikipedia are volunteers with jobs and sometimes families.
- Saying that, I've put some of the sources (the reliable looking ones -- see WP:RS for what we think is a reliable source) through translators and don't find that much missing from the article - mainly what was missing is the four separate commercial towers (now added) and the proposed functions (hotels / shopping / residential and by what ratios). I've found some of the same information in existing sources in the article, though.
- The Baidu Baike articles also don't have that much missing information. See here: [1] and [2]
- You can expect Wikipedia articles to have missing claims if no reliable sources could be found to back them up (but also on lower traffic articles like those of buildings people have maybe lost interest in). Komonzia (talk) 20:26, 14 January 2026 (UTC)
- Sidenote: I am not suggesting that you stop highlighting problems of missing information, but there is an overtone of an expectation of quick action from your side which I am trying to set your expectations about. You could consider many requests 'picked up' once you see it actually fulfilled, because committal is problematic.
- But your requests may be easier to handle if you are more specific about what information you expected to see that you do not see in the article (you were asked but you just said "too much to say"). Komonzia (talk) 20:35, 14 January 2026 (UTC)
- Well, if you looked at every link i put, then you would've found more information, such as a khmer youtube news video article featuring a early unique different glass design and a different name, but still on the same location, in the first half of the 2010s or mid 2010s, i know that not every link can definetly be used as a reliable source, but COULD be used as a reliable source, note the COULD highlighted in my sentence, as the "reliable source" can be interpretated as broadly as possible, also, the reason why i said "too much to say" is that there really is too much to say, because it would have took me a bit too long to write it, and it would have been a bit too much for me, hence the reason why i said "too much to say", also, i wrote a message on the user's talk page. ~2025-43053-85 (talk) 21:30, 14 January 2026 (UTC)
- Yes, I have seen some of the churned press releases in Chinese and English form from the developers & construction company. Unfortunately, there is a preference for secondary sources over primary ones. Komonzia (talk) 21:32, 14 January 2026 (UTC)
- I mean, secondary sources are allowed in Wikipedia, and so are tertiary sources, so why not use not just primary sources, but also secondary sources and tertiary sources? If the Wikipedia's definition of "reliable source" is interpreted as broadly as possible, then most links (as in more than 50%), if not all i put there are allowed. Also why we shoundl't put sources that have the same information? Other wikipedia articles, even well-written ones such as "Donald Trump", "United States" and FA-grade articles like "Cleopatra" also do it, so why not put more sources in this article? It makes it have more sources, meaning there are more news articles that talked about it and therefore will make it more better and trustworthy because there are many news articles that talked about it (i don't know what word to describe it, so i'm using "trustworthy", even though it isn't the correct word i want to say). ~2025-43053-85 (talk) 21:58, 14 January 2026 (UTC)
- You can read more about that on WP:PRIMARY and WP:PRSOURCE. I also find that quite often if a secondary/etc reliable source hasn't said it, it isn't worth saying in Wikipedia. Some of the videos that have the glass design also look more like the Naga 3 proposals, and some of them seem to be amateur animations by someone who might as well have been me, sitting on the opposite side of the planet from Cambodia and not speaking a lick of Khmer. So please forgive the average WP editor for not wanting to sift through 86 links 37 of which are social media (and a great deal of the rest are churned press releases). Komonzia (talk) 22:06, 14 January 2026 (UTC)
- Is there a rule that if a secondary/reliable sources hasn't said it, then it isn't worth saying in Wikipedia? Well, no, this isn't a rule in Wikipedia and putting secondary sources and reliable sources with the same information is being done in many, if not lots of articles, inlcuding well-written ones such as "Donald Trump", "United States", and "Cleopatra", Also considering how many links i put there, we need to tell someone else about it rather than yourself because of how many links there are, which ones do you know of so that they can work on Thai Boon Roong Twin Tower World Trade Center? Also i found these two recent videos on YouTube that have additional new information/activity https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=67CB1VKkuSc https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mZ2N9dQUZzU the second video has AI-generated images, as is unfortunaly the case in many, if not lots of thai youtube videos, but it does have real information, so it isn't some dumb AI slop but rather a unfortunate case of AI-generated images being used there, oh yeah it originally had different names along with different designs and one had a taller height of 615 meters, i wonder if they changed the name and the design and it coundl't be found online because we don't know the new name and searching up Thai Boon Roong Twin Tower World Trade Center woundl't bring up the new name and design? ~2025-43053-85 (talk) 12:47, 15 January 2026 (UTC)
- In this reply of mine in this thread: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Alalch_E.#c-Alalch_E.-20260111173300-~2025-43053-85-20260111161400
- I said:
Hello. I have looked at some of the sources that you have linked, but only from the first part of your message (those included before the second part of your message, which starts with "And let's not forget other videos ..."). I have not looked at any of the sources from the second part of your message (the facebook posts and the youtube videos). I will not look at them.
Taking only the sources from the first part of your message: What information is contained in them that is not contained in the article Thai Boon Roong Twin Tower World Trade Center?
- Specifically, I asked:
What information is contained in them that is not contained in the article Thai Boon Roong Twin Tower World Trade Center?
- "them" refers to the sources from the first part of your message (those included before the second part of your message, which starts with "And let's not forget other videos ...").
- You replied:
Too much to say because of how many things there is to note, so i asked a user named Mwen Sé Kéyòl Translator-a to help with it, wait for a while before they appear
- However, this ostensible user did not reply.
- Therefore, it appears that I will not be told what information is contained in those sources that is not contained in the article. In other words, my question will not be answered.
- Because my question will not be answered, I will continue to lack knowledge of what information is contained in those sources that is not contained in the article, and without this information I will not do anything. —Alalch E. 17:27, 15 January 2026 (UTC)
- @Alalch E. The only missing parts I've found so far relate to "statistics" of the proposed building, see the article's actual talk page for where I mention that. The current sources would already support the information if it was added to the article.
- I am not sure the article should waffle about it though, especially since by all accounts except for the people whose reputations depend on it, there is no activity at the empty lot. But if it was added, I would not object. Komonzia (talk) 17:44, 15 January 2026 (UTC)
- Thanks for your work on the article. —Alalch E. 18:41, 15 January 2026 (UTC)
- Then, let Komonzia do it. ~2025-43053-85 (talk) 18:40, 15 January 2026 (UTC)
- Sure, no problem. —Alalch E. 18:41, 15 January 2026 (UTC)
- @~2025-43053-85 Ignoring the fact that these aren't reliable sources, this youtube video is remixed footage (low-information footage) from older videos you have already posted: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=67CB1VKkuSc -- to put it plainly, perhaps you should go contribute it to Baidu Baike (and not on Wikipedia) if you think it's an acceptable source there? Komonzia (talk) 17:32, 15 January 2026 (UTC)
- Baidu Baike is only in Chinese, and i would need to create a account on Baidu Baike, and i want to improve and expand the English Wikipedia article about it so that the non-chinese can learn about it on Wikipedia. ~2025-43053-85 (talk) 18:43, 15 January 2026 (UTC)
- They can learn already, there's already an article. —Alalch E. 18:44, 15 January 2026 (UTC)
- Actually there are 2 articles about it in Baidu Baike with different names about this skyscraper for some reason, i guess one decided to create a article, while another also created a article, not knowing there already is one. ~2025-43053-85 (talk) 18:57, 15 January 2026 (UTC)
- That isn't important. What's important is that Wikipedia has an article about this topic, and people who understand English (Chinese or not) can read it to learn about the topic. —Alalch E. 19:00, 15 January 2026 (UTC)
- Actually there are 2 articles about it in Baidu Baike with different names about this skyscraper for some reason, i guess one decided to create a article, while another also created a article, not knowing there already is one. ~2025-43053-85 (talk) 18:57, 15 January 2026 (UTC)
- They can learn already, there's already an article. —Alalch E. 18:44, 15 January 2026 (UTC)
- Also, it originally had multiple different names along with multiple different designs and one had a taller height of 615 meters until it became Thai Boon Roong Twin Tower World Trade Center, i wonder if they changed the name and the design from Thai Boon Roong Twin Tower World Trade Center into something different and it coundl't be found online because we don't know the new name and searching up Thai Boon Roong Twin Tower World Trade Center woundl't bring up the new name and design? ~2025-43053-85 (talk) 18:53, 15 January 2026 (UTC)
- Such details do not matter that much. When it's built, we will know how tall it is. —Alalch E. 18:56, 15 January 2026 (UTC)
- Actually they might have changed the height too, i mean Cambodian and Chinese projects, even the biggest megaprojects, tend to be kind of mysterious with the information and the amount of information both outside and even inside Cambodia and China, probably because of the different culture surrounding the information and the amount of public information needed. ~2025-43053-85 (talk) 19:00, 15 January 2026 (UTC)
- You mean, some person first said "the skyscraper is going to be tall X meters", and then, afterwards, that same person or some other person said "the skyscraper is going to be tall Y meters", then, afterwards, that same person or some other person said "the skyscraper is going to be tall Z meters", etc. These things are unnoteworthy and not relevant for our encyclopedia. That is not "changing height", such highly unstable claims about future objects or events are why this website has the following policy: WP:CRYSTAL —Alalch E. 19:07, 15 January 2026 (UTC)
- Actually it wasn't because of this, but because they've actually changed the height, name, and the design over the years, seemingly unannounced that they've changed the name, until it became Thai Boon Roong Twin Tower World Trade Center, i wonder if they've changed the name, height, and the design, and they've seemingly didn't announced it for whatever reason, and it coundl't be found online because we don't know the new name and searching up Thai Boon Roong Twin Tower World Trade Center woundl't bring up the new name and design? ~2025-43053-85 (talk) 19:11, 15 January 2026 (UTC)
- If you've ever been familiar with Cambodian and Chinese projects, then you would've known that stuff like this happens in Cambodian and Chinese projects. ~2025-43053-85 (talk) 19:12, 15 January 2026 (UTC)
- It happens all around the world. It is not that specific to Cambodia or China. By the way, if you can find a reliable source discussing the project under a significantly different name, I would like to add that to the article. The article already lists two alternative English names: Thai Boon Roong Twin Trade Center and Thai Boon Roong Twin Towers. —Alalch E. 19:20, 15 January 2026 (UTC)
- It isn't just a different name, but a different name alongside a different design and height. ~2025-43053-85 (talk) 21:39, 15 January 2026 (UTC)
- It happens all around the world. It is not that specific to Cambodia or China. By the way, if you can find a reliable source discussing the project under a significantly different name, I would like to add that to the article. The article already lists two alternative English names: Thai Boon Roong Twin Trade Center and Thai Boon Roong Twin Towers. —Alalch E. 19:20, 15 January 2026 (UTC)
- You mean, some person first said "the skyscraper is going to be tall X meters", and then, afterwards, that same person or some other person said "the skyscraper is going to be tall Y meters", then, afterwards, that same person or some other person said "the skyscraper is going to be tall Z meters", etc. These things are unnoteworthy and not relevant for our encyclopedia. That is not "changing height", such highly unstable claims about future objects or events are why this website has the following policy: WP:CRYSTAL —Alalch E. 19:07, 15 January 2026 (UTC)
- Actually they might have changed the height too, i mean Cambodian and Chinese projects, even the biggest megaprojects, tend to be kind of mysterious with the information and the amount of information both outside and even inside Cambodia and China, probably because of the different culture surrounding the information and the amount of public information needed. ~2025-43053-85 (talk) 19:00, 15 January 2026 (UTC)
- Such details do not matter that much. When it's built, we will know how tall it is. —Alalch E. 18:56, 15 January 2026 (UTC)
- Also, by the way, something to note is that some, if not many chinese websites do put random letters in the web domain and chinese websites with random letters existed before AI-generated websites were a thing. ~2025-43053-85 (talk) 19:02, 15 January 2026 (UTC)
- Like random latin letters, not random chinese characters. ~2025-43053-85 (talk) 19:03, 15 January 2026 (UTC)
- Also, in the Techo International Airport in Phnom Penh, Cambodia, There is information in the russian wikipedia article that isn't in the english wikipedia article, In the "Criticism" section of the russian wikipedia article, there is information that isn't in the english wikipedia article, here's the following text: "The seizure of land for the construction of the airport was associated with numerous scandals due to discrepancies in the field of land rights. Land conflicts have been going on in this territory since the 1990s, with the involvement of local residents, local oligarchs (whose prominent representative is considered to be the landowner Oknha Seang Chanheng), officials who issued fake ownership documents to Japanese, Chinese, Thai businessmen, and large financial conglomerates. Since 2018, there have been regular clashes with the police. In one of the clashes, about a hundred villagers fought against four times the number of policemen. As a result of the battle with the use of tear gas and other weapons, more than 10 policemen were injured. The number of surviving protesters is unknown, but 30 of them were arrested. Protesters repeatedly tried to block the roads, defended their plots with a human chain. As a result of the conflicts, thousands of local residents were deprived of the opportunity to engage in agriculture, compensation payments were reduced several times on the way to the recipients. The disadvantage of the airport is that the only form of public transport is the single bus route, which often stands idle for long periods of time in traffic jams during rush hours." There are 6 sources, some of them are already in english wikipedia article, i haven't looked properly at sources so i don't know how many of them are in english wikipedia but it definetly isn't all or most of them. ~2025-43053-85 (talk) 19:08, 15 January 2026 (UTC)
- Should we create articles about Thai Boon Roong Group, Sun Kian Ip Group, Wuchang Shipbuilding Industry Group, and Sino Great Wall International Engineering? There are already articles about Teng Bunma, one of the founders of Thai Boon Roong Group, and Ng Lap Seng, chairman of Sun Kian Ip Group, so why not these too? Also, how about also creating a article about Meng Retthy, he was well known as one of the “four tigers” of the Cambodian economy after the fall of the Khmer Rouge, between the 1980s-2000s. ~2025-43053-85 (talk) 19:33, 15 January 2026 (UTC)
- I remember these topics from when I researched the topic of the Thai Boon Roong Twin Tower World Trade Center. I had an impression that most of these entities are certainly important and it would be a good thing if Wikipedia could include an article about each. However, it would only be a good thing conditionally: If it can be done in a way that is consistent with Wikipedia's core content policies and an additional important policy: wp:What Wikipedia is not. If it cannot be done consistent with said policies, the articles will probably be deleted. The standard methodology of determining whether it is possible to publish an article on Wikipedia so that it does not get deleted because it violates the aforementioned policies is confusingly called "notability". There is a guideline about it at wp:Notability (from that guideline:
Editors apply notability standards to all subjects to determine whether the English language Wikipedia should have a separate, stand-alone article on that subject. The primary purpose of these standards is to ensure that editors create articles that comply with major content policies.
). That is a general guideline about the core concept of notability. An especially relevant subject-specific notability guideline is: wp:Notability (organizations and companies). This guideline is very strict. According to it, it is very unlikely, close to 0%, that we could create articles about these companies such that they would not be deleted. —Alalch E. 19:51, 15 January 2026 (UTC)- Sure it is close to being considered unlikely, but not very unlikely like close to 0%, the reason is because of Khmer and Chinese news articles, web pages and other stuff that would have made it possible to create a wikipedia article about it. ~2025-43053-85 (talk) 20:08, 15 January 2026 (UTC)
- No, it's close to 0%, you should just believe me. You do not understand how high the standard is for companies. You need to read the entire page wp:Notability (organizations and companies). —Alalch E. 20:10, 15 January 2026 (UTC)
- Considering it's not zero, it is still possible, perhaps maybe instead of a article about a company it could be the chairmans/founders of the companies. ~2025-43053-85 (talk) 21:38, 15 January 2026 (UTC)
- It is much easier for people to pass the notability threshold than companies. —Alalch E. 00:25, 16 January 2026 (UTC)
- Gosh I really did miss a lot, I doubt I would’ve worked on it though, Cambodian buildings isn’t my style. Mwen Sé Kéyòl Translator-a (talk) 10:30, 17 January 2026 (UTC)
- It is much easier for people to pass the notability threshold than companies. —Alalch E. 00:25, 16 January 2026 (UTC)
- Considering it's not zero, it is still possible, perhaps maybe instead of a article about a company it could be the chairmans/founders of the companies. ~2025-43053-85 (talk) 21:38, 15 January 2026 (UTC)
- No, it's close to 0%, you should just believe me. You do not understand how high the standard is for companies. You need to read the entire page wp:Notability (organizations and companies). —Alalch E. 20:10, 15 January 2026 (UTC)
- Sure it is close to being considered unlikely, but not very unlikely like close to 0%, the reason is because of Khmer and Chinese news articles, web pages and other stuff that would have made it possible to create a wikipedia article about it. ~2025-43053-85 (talk) 20:08, 15 January 2026 (UTC)
- I remember these topics from when I researched the topic of the Thai Boon Roong Twin Tower World Trade Center. I had an impression that most of these entities are certainly important and it would be a good thing if Wikipedia could include an article about each. However, it would only be a good thing conditionally: If it can be done in a way that is consistent with Wikipedia's core content policies and an additional important policy: wp:What Wikipedia is not. If it cannot be done consistent with said policies, the articles will probably be deleted. The standard methodology of determining whether it is possible to publish an article on Wikipedia so that it does not get deleted because it violates the aforementioned policies is confusingly called "notability". There is a guideline about it at wp:Notability (from that guideline:
- How about creating a english wikipedia article about a Xiamen-Kinmen bridge that is currently under construction by China? https://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E5%8E%A6%E9%87%91%E8%B7%A8%E6%B5%B7%E5%A4%A7%E6%A1%A5 https://baike.baidu.com/item/%E5%8E%A6%E9%87%91%E5%A4%A7%E6%A1%A5/64196573 ~2025-43053-85 (talk) 19:45, 15 January 2026 (UTC)
- That would be cool, although perhaps not in a while because the original user (the TA) is now blocked. Mwen Sé Kéyòl Translator-a (talk) 10:31, 17 January 2026 (UTC)
- Baidu Baike is only in Chinese, and i would need to create a account on Baidu Baike, and i want to improve and expand the English Wikipedia article about it so that the non-chinese can learn about it on Wikipedia. ~2025-43053-85 (talk) 18:43, 15 January 2026 (UTC)
- Is there a rule that if a secondary/reliable sources hasn't said it, then it isn't worth saying in Wikipedia? Well, no, this isn't a rule in Wikipedia and putting secondary sources and reliable sources with the same information is being done in many, if not lots of articles, inlcuding well-written ones such as "Donald Trump", "United States", and "Cleopatra", Also considering how many links i put there, we need to tell someone else about it rather than yourself because of how many links there are, which ones do you know of so that they can work on Thai Boon Roong Twin Tower World Trade Center? Also i found these two recent videos on YouTube that have additional new information/activity https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=67CB1VKkuSc https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mZ2N9dQUZzU the second video has AI-generated images, as is unfortunaly the case in many, if not lots of thai youtube videos, but it does have real information, so it isn't some dumb AI slop but rather a unfortunate case of AI-generated images being used there, oh yeah it originally had different names along with different designs and one had a taller height of 615 meters, i wonder if they changed the name and the design and it coundl't be found online because we don't know the new name and searching up Thai Boon Roong Twin Tower World Trade Center woundl't bring up the new name and design? ~2025-43053-85 (talk) 12:47, 15 January 2026 (UTC)
- You can read more about that on WP:PRIMARY and WP:PRSOURCE. I also find that quite often if a secondary/etc reliable source hasn't said it, it isn't worth saying in Wikipedia. Some of the videos that have the glass design also look more like the Naga 3 proposals, and some of them seem to be amateur animations by someone who might as well have been me, sitting on the opposite side of the planet from Cambodia and not speaking a lick of Khmer. So please forgive the average WP editor for not wanting to sift through 86 links 37 of which are social media (and a great deal of the rest are churned press releases). Komonzia (talk) 22:06, 14 January 2026 (UTC)
- I mean, secondary sources are allowed in Wikipedia, and so are tertiary sources, so why not use not just primary sources, but also secondary sources and tertiary sources? If the Wikipedia's definition of "reliable source" is interpreted as broadly as possible, then most links (as in more than 50%), if not all i put there are allowed. Also why we shoundl't put sources that have the same information? Other wikipedia articles, even well-written ones such as "Donald Trump", "United States" and FA-grade articles like "Cleopatra" also do it, so why not put more sources in this article? It makes it have more sources, meaning there are more news articles that talked about it and therefore will make it more better and trustworthy because there are many news articles that talked about it (i don't know what word to describe it, so i'm using "trustworthy", even though it isn't the correct word i want to say). ~2025-43053-85 (talk) 21:58, 14 January 2026 (UTC)
- Yes, I have seen some of the churned press releases in Chinese and English form from the developers & construction company. Unfortunately, there is a preference for secondary sources over primary ones. Komonzia (talk) 21:32, 14 January 2026 (UTC)
- Well, if you looked at every link i put, then you would've found more information, such as a khmer youtube news video article featuring a early unique different glass design and a different name, but still on the same location, in the first half of the 2010s or mid 2010s, i know that not every link can definetly be used as a reliable source, but COULD be used as a reliable source, note the COULD highlighted in my sentence, as the "reliable source" can be interpretated as broadly as possible, also, the reason why i said "too much to say" is that there really is too much to say, because it would have took me a bit too long to write it, and it would have been a bit too much for me, hence the reason why i said "too much to say", also, i wrote a message on the user's talk page. ~2025-43053-85 (talk) 21:30, 14 January 2026 (UTC)
- Well, maybe you should ask any editor you know of to work together on Thai Boon Roong Twin Tower World Trade Center. ~2025-43053-85 (talk) 20:20, 14 January 2026 (UTC)
- Having read the room, Alalch seems happier for someone else to work on it instead. I can't commit to do anything in particular on Wikipedia, though. I also cannot read Chinese (but know machine-translators well enough to determine when a translated claim is reliable or not). Komonzia (talk) 18:55, 14 January 2026 (UTC)
- Well, it's not meant to be a hurry, i just asked if you can work together on Thai Boon Roong Twin Tower World Trade Center? ~2025-43053-85 (talk) 18:51, 14 January 2026 (UTC)
- Is there a reason for the hurry? Komonzia (talk) 18:34, 14 January 2026 (UTC)
- Maybe while we would still wait for them, how about you too will work together with the Thai Boon Roong Twin Tower World Trade Center, Komonzia? ~2025-43053-85 (talk) 18:25, 14 January 2026 (UTC)
- Might I suggest waiting for the weekend? I have added it to my "todo" list but I might not get to it for some weeks to be honest. Komonzia (talk) 17:59, 14 January 2026 (UTC)
- You're welcome. I will not ask them and will wait instead. —Alalch E. 17:15, 13 January 2026 (UTC)
- Thanks, maybe you should ask them instead of us waiting here for them to appear ~2025-43053-85 (talk) 17:13, 13 January 2026 (UTC)
- No problem! —Alalch E. 16:34, 13 January 2026 (UTC)
- Too much to say because of how many things there is to note, so i asked a user named Mwen Sé Kéyòl Translator-a to help with it, wait for a while before they appear ~2025-43053-85 (talk) 16:15, 13 January 2026 (UTC)
Infobox image at Luigi Mangione
Twice now [3][4]you have attempted to place File:Luigi Mangione perp walk.gif into the infobox at Luigi Mangione. This, despite the inline comment which you removed that says "DO NOT PLACE AN IMAGE HERE WITHOUT CONSENSUS ON THE TALK PAGE. See Talk:Luigi_Mangione#Infobox_image."
. I fail to understand how you could interpret that as it being ok to add an image to the infobox without consensus on the talk page. Since you have not participated on the talk page as yet, you are perhaps unaware there has been a highly disruptive edit war on this article regarding such an image. One person was already temporarily blocked from editing the article due to continuing the edit war. If you restore any image to the infobox again without gaining consensus on the talk page do so, I will block you from the article. Edit warring about this will not be accepted. If I have been unclear here, then by all means ask questions. Continuing as you have in placing an image in the infobox will result in a block. Please choose wisely. Thank you, --Hammersoft (talk) 13:55, 13 February 2026 (UTC)
- Thanks for the message. The hidden text is WP:BADHIDDENTEXT. I don't care about such hidden text on a principle basis. But I am not ignoring the talk page.
- There's no particular controversy on the talk page about repurposing that gif that is already in the article as the lead image. Usually, the only image of the subject in an article is the lead image. I'll recheck to see if I have missed something. I disagree with your approach here based on my current awareness of the situation, but that's ok. I won't repeat that edit. —Alalch E. 20:16, 13 February 2026 (UTC)
- I'm sorry you disagree with the approach. However, yet another edit war over the infobox image was forming, and you were a participant. I took the lightest approach here in handling this. Given the rampant dispute over this, some administrators would have already partially blocked you from the page. There has been a large edit war on this article over the infobox image. That edit war is not going to continue. You can either choose to not add an image to the infobox again, do so with consensus from the talk page, or do so without consensus on the talk page. In the latter case, you will be blocked from the page. The edit warring disruptions on the page must end. See Talk:Luigi_Mangione#Infobox_image for more information. Thank you, --Hammersoft (talk) 21:57, 13 February 2026 (UTC)
