This user's request to have autoblock on their IP address lifted has been reviewed by an administrator, who accepted the request.

Paleface Jack (block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log))

Paleface Jack (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · nuke contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)

---

Block message:

Autoblocked because your IP address was recently used by "Shanamartin17". The reason given for Shanamartin17's block is: "Abusing multiple accounts: user:Shanarenee17".

• Blocking administrator: RHaworth (talk • blocks)

---

Accept reason: Autoblock lifted. --jpgordon^{𝄢𝄆 𝄐𝄇} 17:08, 15 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

This user's unblock request has been reviewed by an administrator, who declined the request. Other administrators may also review this block, but should not override the decision without good reason (see the blocking policy).

Paleface Jack (block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log))

---

Request reason:

The same IP address was used by another user, similar to the last time I was blocked. I always edit articles on this account and have never abused Wikipiedia's policies before.Paleface Jack (talk) 17:00, 4 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Decline reason:

You need to exactly follow the instructions that appear when you attempt to edit, in order for us to find and lift the autoblock. Yamla (talk) 18:01, 4 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

---

If you want to make any further unblock requests, please read the guide to appealing blocks first, then use the {{unblock}} template again. If you make too many unconvincing or disruptive unblock requests, you may be prevented from editing this page until your block has expired. Do not remove this unblock review while you are blocked.

Archives

Volume 1 November 4, 2015 — December 24, 2017 February 12, 2018 — June 13, 2018 June 30, 2018 — December 27, 2018 December 28, 2018 — August 5, 2019 November 6, 2019 — August 6, 2020 October 2020 — September 2024

What are your goals for the expansion? MagicatthemovieS (talk) 16:49, 29 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@MagicatthemovieS Featured Status. That and having a more complete rendition of the film, it's aspects and the series as a whole. It is sadly one of those horror series that is underdeveloped on Wikipiedia in comparison to Halloween, Friday the 13th, and other horror franchises. As an avid reader, I always felt the article as it os was missing a lot of what readers want and fails in a lot of aspects in what Wikipiedia tries to do with educating the public on these sorts of things. The article is still quite a ways away from any sort of FA nomination but after completing things in this separate space I can gradually include that into the main article and publish the separate articles related to the film.Paleface Jack (talk) 17:09, 29 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@MagicatthemovieS If you are interested, are there any aspects of the film that interest you the most? Paleface Jack (talk) 17:15, 29 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

If you can name some of the stuff you want to add the article, I'll let you know if anything catches my fancy. MagicatthemovieS (talk) 18:50, 29 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@MagicatthemovieS I split my time with the entire lot but the current tasks apply:

• I still need to finish the filming sections.
• Production difficulties needs expanded.
• The separate Special effects article needs expansion
• Music and sound design will be separated later.
• The Analysis article needs expansion, though that one is a pretty hefty task.
• Litigation and legacy sections need expanding.

If any of these you feel drawn towards or feel it applies to your skill set just let me know. Paleface Jack (talk) 19:26, 29 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

If you are wondering where the page is, I am including it here. Granted it is long but that is fine. Things will be split up and fine tuned as it goes along. Paleface Jack (talk) 02:40, 30 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The "legacy" and "analysis" sections might interest me. MagicatthemovieS (talk) 13:38, 30 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Let me know if you are working on any other projects. MagicatthemovieS (talk) 14:04, 30 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

If you edit in the main userspace I have give me a heads up. I would hate to have us both be editing and loose progress if one of us changes things. Paleface Jack (talk) 18:31, 30 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@MagicatthemovieS I hand you the reigns on those. Have fun. Paleface Jack (talk) 16:12, 30 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for your help in raising Starship Troopers (film) to a Featured Article! Darkwarriorblake (talk) 14:23, 12 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Don't mention it. Your articles are spot on and their structure are the basis and inspiration for what I am doing for that Texas Chain Saw expansion. We help each other out in our own ways, my friend. Paleface Jack (talk) 16:26, 12 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hello,

The Wikimedia Foundation is conducting a survey of Wikipedians to better understand what draws administrators to contribute to Wikipedia, and what affects administrator retention. We will use this research to improve experiences for Wikipedians, and address common problems and needs. We have identified you as a good candidate for this research, and would greatly appreciate your participation in this anonymous survey.

You do not have to be an Administrator to participate.

The survey should take around 10-15 minutes to complete. You may read more about the study on its Meta page and view its privacy statement .

Please find our contact on the project Meta page if you have any questions or concerns.

Kind Regards,

WMF Research Team

BGerdemann (WMF) (talk) 19:28, 23 October 2024 (UTC) [reply]

I wanted to say "hi" and that I think your Texas Chain Saw project is awesome. I made my way to your Talk page a week or two ago from that Tasmanian tiger discussion and saw that you were working on this. I'm a horror fan and a franchise like this deserves a top quality article. I don't have much to offer that project other than a thumbs up. I appreciate your words of encouragement and measured contributions to the cryptid discussions. --MYCETEAE 🍄‍🟫—talk 23:54, 1 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Myceteae: Thanks, my friend. Tis' fine if you feel you have nothing to offer, I am of the view that other perspectives and even the smallest of things counts. At the moment I am trying to figure out a portion of the filming that I am stuck on and how to go about it. On top of that article, I have others as you can see on my page, some I have put in hiatus while others are worked on incrementally.--Paleface Jack (talk) 00:04, 2 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I'll take a look and see if I have any feedback or input. It'll be a fun read, regardless! --MYCETEAE 🍄‍🟫—talk 00:15, 2 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Myceteae Fun to work on, apart from some frustrating bits. Paleface Jack (talk) 00:16, 2 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

No doubt. It's an impressive undertaking. --MYCETEAE 🍄‍🟫—talk 00:26, 2 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Very, not close to being done with it, the "Last supper" scene has proved to be a challenge. All the separate pages and whatnot will be likewise. Paleface Jack (talk) 01:35, 2 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

An automated process has detected that when you recently edited The Head Hunter (2018 film), you added a link pointing to the disambiguation page Vinyl.

(Opt-out instructions.) --DPL bot (talk) 19:55, 2 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hello,

I recently invited you to take a survey about administration on Wikipedia. If you haven’t yet had a chance, there is still time to participate– we’d truly appreciate your feedback. The survey is anonymous and should take about 10-15 minutes to complete. You may read more about the study on its Meta page and view its privacy statement.

Take the survey here.

Kind Regards,

WMF Research Team

BGerdemann (WMF) (talk) 00:39, 13 November 2024 (UTC) [reply]

Hello! Voting in the 2024 Arbitration Committee elections is now open until 23:59 (UTC) on Monday, 2 December 2024. All eligible users are allowed to vote. Users with alternate accounts may only vote once.

The Arbitration Committee is the panel of editors responsible for conducting the Wikipedia arbitration process. It has the authority to impose binding solutions to disputes between editors, primarily for serious conduct disputes the community has been unable to resolve. This includes the authority to impose site bans, topic bans, editing restrictions, and other measures needed to maintain our editing environment. The arbitration policy describes the Committee's roles and responsibilities in greater detail.

If you wish to participate in the 2024 election, please review the candidates and submit your choices on the voting page. If you no longer wish to receive these messages, you may add {{NoACEMM}} to your user talk page. MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 00:26, 19 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, I'm Qwerfjkl (bot). I have automatically detected that this edit performed by you, on the page Billy (Black Christmas), may have introduced referencing errors. They are as follows:

• A bare URL and missing title error. References show this error when they do not have a title. Please edit the article to add the appropriate title parameter to the reference. ( | )

Please check this page and fix the errors highlighted. If you think this is a false positive, you can . Thanks, Qwerfjkl (bot) (talk) 23:55, 20 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I continue to admire your great work on Billy (Black Christmas) and other horror articles! ★Trekker (talk) 08:06, 22 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@StarTrekker Thanks, my friend. Agnes told me to work on the article, but don't tell anyone that I did. Paleface Jack (talk) 16:14, 22 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Jason Voorhees Michael Myers and Freddy Krueger are the best slashers Sughaimeoia (talk) 23:52, 3 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Opinions, though freely expressed, do not fall into the lines of Wikipiedia. Paleface Jack (talk) 23:58, 3 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

FYI, this is a block evading sock of Jinnifer. MrOllie (talk) 00:03, 4 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I had a feeling it was something like that. Paleface Jack (talk) 00:05, 4 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

No I'm just cur Sughaimeoia (talk) 00:07, 4 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Curious Sughaimeoia (talk) 00:08, 4 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Sock puppet or not, curiosity killed the cat. Paleface Jack (talk) 00:11, 4 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

There is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Thank you. :bloodofox: (talk) 05:45, 4 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Precious

Five years!

--Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:38, 26 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Gerda Arendt Danke. Paleface Jack (talk) 16:23, 26 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Paleface Jack, I just wanted to give you a heads-up that sometime in the near future I'll be reaching out for some advice in organizing King Kong. I'm just finishing up some material for it and then I'll be starting on polishing up the page's organization. Since you so kindly offered to help I'll reach out to you if I come across any questions. And when I do ask, don't feel like you have to respond right away (I know you've got other projects). Thanks again, Heidi Pusey BYU (talk) 00:57, 27 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Heidi Pusey BYU I will see what I can do when the time comes. Paleface Jack (talk) 00:59, 27 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Hi there, I'm pleased to inform you that I've begun reviewing the article The Head Hunter (2018 film) you nominated for GA-status according to the criteria. This process may take up to 7 days. Feel free to contact me with any questions or comments you might have during this period. Message delivered by ChristieBot, on behalf of Jon698 -- Jon698 (talk) 17:46, 24 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

The article The Head Hunter (2018 film) you nominated as a good article has passed ; see Talk:The Head Hunter (2018 film) for comments about the article, and Talk:The Head Hunter (2018 film)/GA1 for the nomination. Well done! If the article is eligible to appear in the "Did you know" section of the Main Page, you can nominate it within the next seven days. Message delivered by ChristieBot, on behalf of Jon698 -- Jon698 (talk) 23:22, 25 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

If there was a slasher it would just involve Jason Voorhees Michael Myers and Freddy Krueger? 2600:387:C:7138:0:0:0:4 (talk) 23:19, 13 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@2600:387:C:7138:0:0:0:4 you are a block evaders aren't you? Paleface Jack (talk) 23:21, 13 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

No we're not we're just curious. 2600:387:C:7131:0:0:0:6 (talk) 00:38, 14 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Did you know movie director Steve Miner agrees he calls them the big three. 2600:387:C:7131:0:0:0:6 (talk) 00:39, 14 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@2600:387:C:7131:0:0:0:6 They are overrated Paleface Jack (talk) 00:57, 14 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Are you kidding Jason Voorhees Michael Myers and Freddy Krueger are the kings of modern horror films specifically slasher film they are called the big three for a reason. 2600:387:F:5C38:0:0:0:1 (talk) 01:07, 14 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Even says so in most media. 2600:387:F:5C38:0:0:0:1 (talk) 01:08, 14 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@2600:387:F:5C38:0:0:0:1 Leatherface and Billy predate them and inspire them. That being said, this is not the place to chat. Paleface Jack (talk) 01:15, 14 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Then who can I talk to that has more experience? 166.194.158.65 (talk) 01:18, 14 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Jason Michael and Freddy would win 1st place in a horror group contest while Leatherface Pinhead and Chucky would win 2nd and Jigsaw Ghostface and Pennywise would win 3rd. 166.194.158.65 (talk) 01:20, 14 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@166.194.158.65 stop talking or you will get banned. this is not a personal chat site. Paleface Jack (talk) 01:25, 14 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

As you suspected, this is LTA User:Jinnifer evading yet another block. NJZombie (talk) 01:31, 14 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@NJZombie They love to target me it seems Paleface Jack (talk) 01:34, 14 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for uploading File:Begotten,1990 film, screenshot.jpg. The image description page currently specifies that the image is non-free and may only be used on Wikipedia under a claim of non-free use. However, the image is currently not used in any articles on Wikipedia. If the image was previously in an article, please go to the article and see why it was removed. You may add it back if you think that that will be useful. However, please note that images for which a replacement could be created are not acceptable for use on Wikipedia (see our policy for non-free media).

Note that any non-free images not used in any articles will be deleted after seven days, as described in section F5 of the criteria for speedy deletion. Thank you. --B-bot (talk) 17:08, 25 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, Paleface Jack. This is a bot-delivered message letting you know that Draft:Legacy and cultural impact of The Texas Chain Saw Massacre, a page you created, has not been edited in at least 5 months. Drafts that have not been edited for six months may be deleted, so if you wish to retain the page, please edit it again or request that it be moved to your userspace.

If the page has already been deleted, you can request it be undeleted so you can continue working on it.

Thank you for your submission to Wikipedia. FireflyBot (talk) 21:07, 17 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, Paleface Jack, I saw that you made a draft for a new article at User:Paleface Jack/Slimer (novel). Short term hosting of potentially valid articles and other reasonable content under development or in active use is usually acceptable. But in this case, you haven't edited your draft for a long time. If you wish to improve the draft yourself, please do. Otherwise, you may consider donating it to WikiProject Abandoned Drafts (a participant can help). Thank you. Legend of 14 (talk) 05:20, 26 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Hello Paleface Jack, I am wondering if you would be interesting in participating in this poll I made: User:Jon698/Sight and Sound Wikipedia Jon698 (talk) 17:42, 6 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I will think about it. I have a lot of favorites. Paleface Jack (talk) 18:09, 6 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

No doubt; this will be interesting. Nice work on the Begotten expansion by the way. Ceoil (talk) 23:35, 8 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Ceoil Danke, my Irish friend. Might send that over to copy editing, then peer review later. Paleface Jack (talk) 23:37, 8 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I think so. Its very impressive now, time for polish. Ceoil (talk) 23:39, 8 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

PS sorry for being unresponsive lately, have been pre-occupied, but for good reasons. Ceoil (talk) 23:41, 8 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Ceoil All good. Paleface Jack (talk) 23:43, 8 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Ceoil Indeed. was not able to add any image of the director. There is no existing public domain images of him and requests from owners to some images have not been answered. I might get Jon to copy edit it when he is free. Might even review his GA nomination if I get enough mental capacity. Paleface Jack (talk) 23:42, 8 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

There are no doubts about your mental capacity; the hard work is done. Now the article needs to be prettified, which a totally different skill set to research. Will help with the ce, but you know...paddy English :) Ceoil (talk) 23:48, 8 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Ceoil Jon can perfect what we cannot. It will be fine in the end. Paleface Jack (talk) 23:51, 8 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I don't think like that. Usually only call in the heavies like John when every other review and ce help process is done. Ceoil (talk) 00:06, 9 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Ceoil I was being sarcastic. Paleface Jack (talk) 00:07, 9 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

ok cool. John is one of the best we have and dont want him wasting time on basic grammer and what have you stuff. Ceoil (talk) 00:10, 9 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Ceoil I agree. I am frankly glad he is turning his stills to Western film's. those have been underfocused for too long. Paleface Jack (talk) 00:13, 9 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

ps In your case its avoiding journalese . Ceoil (talk) 00:10, 9 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Ceoil:My weakness. Will improve in time, takes time to become a refined wordsmith.Paleface Jack (talk) 00:15, 9 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I know, yes. Ceoil (talk)

Hi Jack; just a quick note to apologize for never really completing the review I was doing of the article. I can see you're still working away at it, and I'd love to see it hit FA status at some point in the future. I may be able to find some time to look again, but no promises. Josh Milburn (talk) 16:31, 3 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@J Milburn Thanks for reaching out, no worries. been trying to do that and attempt to expand the article on the director, which has proved challenging. Paleface Jack (talk) 16:32, 3 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Hi there, I just learned of Chain Reactions (film) and wondered if you'd seen it. Could be fodder for your Chain Saw project. I may have an opportunity to attend a showing soon. Anyway, just wanted to say "hi" and alert you to the existence of this documentary, in case you hadn't already heard of it. --MYCETEAE 🍄‍🟫—talk 20:05, 12 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Myceteae Appreciate the message. I am aware of the film, though I have not seen it. My TCM project is quite extensive in terms of the first film. Adding others into that would be stretching myself a little thin. as I am only one individual. Work on the first film has stalled and is slow, with bits and pieces I am stuck on. One of these days that article will beco.pleted. Paleface Jack (talk) 20:14, 12 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Of course. By "fodder for your project" I just meant that the film *might* be a useable reference or provide ideas for the main Chain Saw and Legacy articles. I didn't mean to suggest taking on an update of the Chain Reactions (film) article. Keep up the good work, at your own pace. 😊 --MYCETEAE 🍄‍🟫—talk 20:21, 12 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Myceteae Danke, my friend. So far, structure for the final couple sections have been the issue. Then there is the branching articles that will need to be worked on. The goal is to be complete but not overlong. Paleface Jack (talk) 20:28, 12 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I am also the only one working on it, so it can be quite tiring. Paleface Jack (talk) 20:32, 12 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Wanna review Friday the 13th (1980)? I improved the article.GettingSwole (talk) 12:55, 25 September 2025 (UTC)GettingSwole[reply]

@GettingSwole:I noticed, and it is impressive work. As for reviewing, I can take a look, but I will not promise anything as reviews of that scale require focus and attention away from my current workload. Paleface Jack (talk) 15:13, 25 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Do you know of another Wiki account that you think might want to review the article? GettingSwole (talk) 18:27, 26 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@GettingSwole Not to my knowledge. Best to just wait it out Paleface Jack (talk) 19:06, 26 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for your support in promoting Batman Returns to Featured Article status. Darkwarriorblake (talk) 22:53, 4 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Darkwarriorblake: Appreciate it, though I am wondering what kind of pie this is. Your work is a heavy influence on my current endeavors for Texas Chain Saw (Slow, steady, and with singular effort). Keep up the great work mate. Paleface Jack (talk) 23:06, 4 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I see it as a cherry pie. Slow and steady works, wish I had as much free time to work on them more, but just not possible anymore. Darkwarriorblake (talk) 23:10, 4 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Darkwarriorblake: Cherry pie is nice, I accept this then. While it is occasionally frustrating working at it myself and I tend to be more slow and methodical with my edits, it has come a long way in the two years though not close to be transferred into the main body. As for lacking free time, that happens hobbies and passion are secondary to life unfortionately. Paleface Jack (talk) 23:15, 4 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

An automated process has detected that when you recently edited The Last House on the Left, you added a link pointing to the disambiguation page Night of the Bloody Apes.

(Opt-out instructions.) --DPL bot (talk) 22:25, 13 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Hello! Voting in the 2025 Arbitration Committee elections is now open until 23:59 (UTC) on Monday, 1 December 2025. All eligible users are allowed to vote. Users with alternate accounts may only vote once.

The Arbitration Committee is the panel of editors responsible for conducting the Wikipedia arbitration process. It has the authority to impose binding solutions to disputes between editors, primarily for serious conduct disputes the community has been unable to resolve. This includes the authority to impose site bans, topic bans, editing restrictions, and other measures needed to maintain our editing environment. The arbitration policy describes the Committee's roles and responsibilities in greater detail.

If you wish to participate in the 2025 election, please review the candidates and submit your choices on the voting page. If you no longer wish to receive these messages, you may add {{NoACEMM}} to your user talk page. MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 00:37, 18 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, Paleface Jack. This message concerns the Articles for Creation submission or draft page you started, "Legacy and cultural impact of The Texas Chain Saw Massacre".

Drafts that go unedited for six months are eligible for deletion, in accordance with our draftspace policy, and this one has been nominated for deletion. If you plan on working on it further, or editing it to address the issues raised if it was declined, simply , and remove the {{db-afc}}, {{db-draft}}, or {{db-g13}} code.

If your submission has already been deleted by the time you read this, you can request its undeletion. An administrator will, in most cases, restore the draft so you can continue to work on it.

Thank you for your submission to Wikipedia! DreamRimmer bot II (talk) 16:27, 23 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for uploading File:Varan, 1958, prublicity still.jpg. The image description page currently specifies that the image is non-free and may only be used on Wikipedia under a claim of non-free use. However, the image is currently not used in any articles on Wikipedia. If the image was previously in an article, please go to the article and see why it was removed. You may add it back if you think that that will be useful. However, please note that images for which a replacement could be created are not acceptable for use on Wikipedia (see our policy for non-free media).

Note that any non-free images not used in any articles will be deleted after seven days, as described in section F5 of the criteria for speedy deletion. Thank you. --B-bot (talk) 19:10, 12 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Hi. Just letting you know I think I have finished with the Chase article. May look at one of the others you suggested devoting attention to soon. Regards, Kieronoldham (talk) 01:47, 21 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Kieronoldham sounds good, my friend. plenty of things to go around. I have been contemplating translating some Japanese true crime articles and will be doing a featured article nomination on a passion project I have been working on and off for a while now. We shall see about that. Impressive work, if you need assistance or advice, you know where to find me. Paleface Jack (talk) 01:53, 21 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I will keep that in mind. Thanks again. Have a good Christmas. Key. Kieronoldham (talk) 01:56, 21 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Kieronoldham likewise Paleface Jack (talk) 02:25, 21 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Kieronoldham (talk) 22:46, 24 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Kieronoldham Danke, and likewise to you too. May your ambition and editing continue to thrive, my friend. Paleface Jack (talk) 22:47, 24 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Have, I believe, addressed your concerns re: the inconsistent references on the Kürten article. If you have any issues with how the references now stand, let me know. Regards, Kieronoldham (talk) 01:43, 30 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Kieronoldham I noticed you were working on that. Apologies for distracting you from your other project and future ones. looks pretty good now. Paleface Jack (talk) 01:45, 30 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

More than happy to have done so.--Kieronoldham (talk) 01:49, 30 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Kieronoldham What are your future article plans? Paleface Jack (talk) 01:51, 30 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I do not know yet. Was thinking of the 1933 case of Samuel Furnace, but Wiki. doesn't have the article. Will find an article.--Kieronoldham (talk) 01:56, 30 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Kieronoldham Nice. If my recommendations were not that interesting, they can be tedius, I always have more if you dont mind. I am not as thorough as you are when it comes to crime articles, tried my hand and stopped at one which I am trying to redo (1800s newspaper articles, though easy are an eyesore of a citation I have yet to rectify). Always glad to see someone push articles far beyond what I ever could do. Paleface Jack (talk) 02:01, 30 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Will consider your suggestions. I remember Bela Kiss was one.--Kieronoldham (talk) 02:04, 30 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Kieronoldham It's alright if you don't. You have other interests and the one you were talking about should be your next one. I would check the other foreign language Wikipiedia's to see if that article does not exist elsewhere cause sometimes (though rarely for English ones) they do. Paleface Jack (talk) 02:08, 30 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

The article I mentioned doesn't exist. After New Year (maybe around 3 or 4 Jan.) I'll start working on another article.--Kieronoldham (talk) 02:10, 30 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Kieronoldham Ah, I misread. Apologies. Enjoy the new years and happy editing. Paleface Jack (talk) 02:24, 30 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

   Send New Year cheer by adding {{subst:Happy New Year fireworks}} to user talk pages.

Volten001 ^☎ 06:17, 1 January 2026 (UTC)[reply]

Hey! I noticed that you put that on there. I must admit that while this is valid, I'm not too sure what I can do here, this isn't a very plot heavy film, most of it is just usual military stuff. I guess I could try to expand it nonetheless but if I can't expand it too well, then I'll withdraw its GAN. Thanks for placing the tag, though. _{S.G. (They/Them) (Talk) (Edits)} 09:28, 5 January 2026 (UTC)[reply]

Update: I have expanded the summary heavily and removed the notice. You'll be the judge on if it is good enough or not, but it certainly isn't short. _{S.G. (They/Them) (Talk) (Edits)} 10:40, 5 January 2026 (UTC)[reply]

@SignedInteger Looks good, just needs some minor copy editing and links and the plot is passable. I will look over the other portions of the article and see what needs to be done for you to get it passed. Paleface Jack (talk) 15:13, 5 January 2026 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you! To give some of my own notes on the plot summary:

• I tried to write only the most important parts, this means scenes with Miki, who is the love interest in the film, don't get mentioned much because their impact is, at least to me, nowhere near as important as scenes where characters are having breakdowns over what they've done or scenes that reveal what is clearly an important plot point. Examples: Anything related to Rauf and his fiancée.
• Links might be a bit hard as the film doesn't specify in some areas, for example "British television stations" are just that, they don't say if it's the BBC or ITV.

That's pretty much all the notes I have here, thanks for your help. _{S.G. (They/Them) (Talk) (Edits)} 15:17, 5 January 2026 (UTC)[reply]

@SignedInteger I also advice to look on Google Books for any literary references to it. That and any English sources will help it flow better. Paleface Jack (talk) 15:14, 5 January 2026 (UTC)[reply]

I'll try to see what I can find. Eli Cohen (the film's director) claimed in an interview related to the film that it got coverage in a whole bunch of newspapers, but I could only find the LA times when searching for that. I'll try to see if I can find the 60 minutes interview which features footage of this film. Thanks again for your help! _{S.G. (They/Them) (Talk) (Edits)} 15:19, 5 January 2026 (UTC)[reply]

@SignedInteger no problem. if you need help or advice. I am here. Paleface Jack (talk) 15:21, 5 January 2026 (UTC)[reply]

For the Google Books one, I found three books that appear to mention the film. This, this and this, so that should help out with English-language sources. _{S.G. (They/Them) (Talk) (Edits)} 15:25, 5 January 2026 (UTC)[reply]

@SignedInteger sounds good Paleface Jack (talk) 15:27, 5 January 2026 (UTC)[reply]

As for other English language sources, unfortunately it appears that the 60 Minutes episode wasn't archived, as I cannot find it. I tried to search for it on CBS' YouTube channel and didn't find anything. However, for other press coverage, I am still searching. I'm actually wondering if I should search for coverage of the 1986 Cannes Film Festival to see if any of the coverage there mentions this film in detail. I'll probably be doing that nonetheless since it probably wouldn't harm to search. _{S.G. (They/Them) (Talk) (Edits)} 15:30, 5 January 2026 (UTC)[reply]

This is clearly a good one, I will be using it in the production section. _{S.G. (They/Them) (Talk) (Edits)} 15:36, 5 January 2026 (UTC)[reply]

@SignedInteger That is good. Paleface Jack (talk) 15:40, 5 January 2026 (UTC)[reply]

Okay, to conclude the search: I've found the NYT article and the Orlando Sentinel article (That's this) but not much else of note. I should note that if you feel like starting this GAN's review, then go ahead! I'm all for it. It's ok if you don't want to, of course, but since you're taking notice of it like this, I thought that you might be interested in starting a proper GAN review for this. Thanks once again. I'll now look through the three books and see where they could be cited. _{S.G. (They/Them) (Talk) (Edits)} 15:49, 5 January 2026 (UTC)[reply]

Precious

Six years!

--Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:21, 26 January 2026 (UTC)[reply]

Danke. Paleface Jack (talk) 16:56, 26 January 2026 (UTC)[reply]

Can you please let me know which statements that are unsourced on the mentioned page. I'd like to get that fixed ASAP. Please ping me. Ktkvtsh (talk) 04:31, 20 February 2026 (UTC)[reply]

@Ktkvtsh Best I can say is proofread it. There were several sentences that had no citation associated to them. They were kind of all over. Paleface Jack (talk) 04:35, 20 February 2026 (UTC)[reply]

So you added the tag because every sentence in the body didn't have a source attached to it? Every sentence doesn't require a source, especially considering it's not a BLP. If there are specific statements you feel require a source, I'd love to know which ones so I can make sure they have one. Otherwise, I don't believe every sentence in the article requires a source, especially if it is right before a sentence that has a source and is connected. I don't mean to be difficult. Ktkvtsh (talk) 04:42, 20 February 2026 (UTC)[reply]

If you can give me a list, I'll get it fixed. If you can't give me a list, please undo the addition of the verification tag. Ktkvtsh (talk) 04:43, 20 February 2026 (UTC)[reply]

@Ktkvtsh I will do so tomorrow when my brain recharges. Paleface Jack (talk) 04:48, 20 February 2026 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks. I appreciate it. Ktkvtsh (talk) 04:49, 20 February 2026 (UTC)[reply]

@Ktkvtsh no problem. If you are looking for other sources, Google Books can be a valuable resource. Paleface Jack (talk) 04:51, 20 February 2026 (UTC)[reply]

Will check it out for sure. I think the FBI Vault documents will also cover it. Ktkvtsh (talk) 04:54, 20 February 2026 (UTC)[reply]

@Ktkvtsh that too. internet archive can find some things as well as newspapers.com. My current projects delves deep into things. Paleface Jack (talk) 05:01, 20 February 2026 (UTC)[reply]

ooo great idea! I hadn't considered that. Ktkvtsh (talk) 05:03, 20 February 2026 (UTC)[reply]

@Ktkvtsh yeah. my sources are less present day and more 1800s. Paleface Jack (talk) 05:06, 20 February 2026 (UTC)[reply]