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Nominator: Epicgenius (talk · contribs) 23:13, 2 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Reviewer: Premeditated Chaos (talk · contribs) 18:19, 23 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Dibsing. ♠PMC♠ (talk) 18:19, 23 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Lead

• Can trim "is a house", I think we know that the Louis Penfield House is a house :P
• Can an open-air carport really be said to be inside a home? (Is this a philosophical question?)

Description

• Since "Usonian" is a term Lloyd adopted and not a common word, could we explain it somewhere? Even in a footnote or something.
• "When the house was built, the wood was stained red, while the concrete was stained yellow." that first clause implies that these things are no longer stained these colors, but I can't see in the article that they have changed
• I did some trimming for redundancy and flow, feel free to revise or revert as you see fit
• "The house's doorways are much higher than in other residences designed by Wright.[6][21] The first-floor doorways are 8 feet (2.4 m) high, while those on the second floor are 7 feet 4 inches (2.24 m) high;[22] these contrast with the typical doorways in Wright's buildings, which average 6 feet (1.8 m) high.[18]" There's some redundancy here in that we twice establish that the doors are unusually big for Wright; since it involves futzing with refs I don't want to rewrite it myself.
• "There are pieces of built-in furniture and furnishings" - serious question, albeit stupid sounding, is there a difference between furniture and furnishings?
• "After a tree on the property collapsed during a storm" - during construction or redone after?
• Why is RiverRock bolded way down here?

History

• "however, it is unknown whether Wright actually said this" I think this is redundant to "allegedly", but I'm willing to be convinced
• the formatting here "equivalent to $293–305 thousand in 2024" feels jarring. I don't think I've ever seen a 6 digit number rendered this way on WP before
• Have done some more minor trimming/editing throughout, including rejiggering/splitting some paragraphs to be more clearly about one topic
• "stating, "I have the radiation burns to prove it."" It's not entirely clear what he means here - is Wright famously nasty? Was his dad? Or something else I'm missing? you've only clipped the intro to this article and not the part that contains this quote, so I can't see the context.
• "Paul recalled that, when he and his family lived there, visitors would come to the house uninvited just to see it." This sentence feels oddly tacked on to a paragraph about a lawsuit
• "given the blueprints for RiverRock to David Jatich and David Smith" who are these people?

Reception

• Nothing to call out here but I did trim some words from the list of problems to make it flow nicer

Spot checks coming next! Thanks for your patience as always. ♠PMC♠ (talk) 23:22, 12 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

• @PMC, no problem. I've fixed all of these, except for the "$293–305 thousand" thing - I'm not sure whether this is wrong, exactly, but I do know that something like "$293–305 million" would not draw any attention grammatically. (Factually, however, might be a different matter, but I digress.)
  A few comments:
  • It just reads a bit jarringly. "$25 million" is common usage, "$25 thousand" is not. But I'm not gonna die on the hill of it at GA.

• For "Usonian", I clarified that it is an architectural style. If you want me to explain the hallmarks of the architectural style, I can do that in a footnote.
  • I think that might help, even briefly - right now it just doesn't provide a lot of information about what to expect from the house unless you know what the Usonian style is
• For "There are pieces of built-in furniture and furnishings" - serious question, albeit stupid sounding, is there a difference between furniture and furnishings? - yes, there is a slight difference. I'd consider furnishings to also include decorative pieces such as tableware, whereas furniture would include only chairs, tables, etc.
  • Fair
• I removed "I have the radiation burns to prove it" because it wasn't particularly relevant, I assume he meant radiator burns. (The clip for the second page is further on in the same citation.)
  • My bad for not realizing there were two links in the cite, but I agree with the removal, looks like the full article doesn't have much more context, annoyingly

– Epicgenius (talk) 23:48, 12 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Spot checks, selected arbitrarily

• Y NHRP 1997 lists
• Y All citations to Curbed
• Y All citations to "Wright House, Right Hill" in The Plain Dealer
• Y All citations to "Spend the night in a Wright" in Cincinnati Enquirer
• Y All citations to "See what it's like to live Wright" in Chicago Tribune
• Y All citations to Axios
• Y All citations to "How to Sell a Frank Lloyd Wright House" in The New York Times

No gripes! Very nice. I'm happy to promote at this time. Consider my replies above as suggestions. ♠PMC♠ (talk) 23:23, 17 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]