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This review is transcluded from Talk:Lope Martín/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Nominator: Kimikel (talk · contribs) 15:57, 9 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Reviewer: Governor Sheng (talk · contribs) 09:53, 27 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Lead

Suggestion to define Martín as a maritime pilot instead of just a pilot. My first impression was that he was an airborne pilot, which amazed me considering he was born in the 16th century. I emphasise this is just a suggestion, since I'm not familiar with maritime phrases, though my opinion can be as good as that of an average reader, and in that view, a clarification might be necessary.

Early life

Same as above. When he was described as a pilot for the first time, I think it would be beneficial to describe him as a maritime pilot (with a link), and continue using just pilot elsewhere.

The last sentence - "Martín also claimed to have a wife living in the town" remains unclear. Was this just a claim, ie a false statement, or did he genuinely state at some point that he indeed has a wife, although this couldn't be confirmed by other sources?

Legazpi expedition

Is Esteban Rodríguez a notable person? If so, there should be a link, even if the article isn't created yet. Considering that Rodríguez's wage was higher, this could be the case. Also, the same goes for Hernán Sánchez Muñón. Please, be free to differ if you think I'm wrong.

Return voyage

"Repaired, the San Lucas left the cove on 4 March and continued around Mindanao". Was it not said in the previous chapter that the San Lucas travelled to the Davao Gulf instead of along Mindano because of the current?

• Well-written: Pending

the prose is clear, concise, and understandable to an appropriately broad audience; spelling and grammar are correct; and Pending

it complies with the Manual of Style guidelines for lead sections, layout, words to watch, fiction, and list incorporation. Passed

• Verifiable with no original research:

it contains a list of all references (sources of information), presented in accordance with the layout style guideline; Passed

reliable sources are cited inline. All content that could reasonably be challenged, except for plot summaries and that which summarizes cited content elsewhere in the article, must be cited no later than the end of the paragraph (or line if the content is not in prose); Passed

it contains no original research; and Passed

it contains no copyright violations or plagiarism. Passed

• Broad in its coverage: Passed

it addresses the main aspects of the topic; and Passed

it stays focused on the topic without going into unnecessary detail (see summary style). Passed

• Neutral: it represents viewpoints fairly and without editorial bias, giving due weight to each. Passed

• Stable: it does not change significantly from day to day because of an ongoing edit war or content dispute. Passed

• Illustrated, if possible, by media such as images, video, or audio: Passed

media are tagged with their copyright statuses, and valid non-free use rationales are provided for non-free content; and Passed

media are relevant to the topic, and have suitable captions. Passed

All in all, the article is well written, properly sourced, and most importantly if follows WP's MoS, except in cases indicated above.

--Governor Sheng (talk) 18:34, 21 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

This review is transcluded from Talk:Lope Martín/GA2. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Nominator: Kimikel (talk · contribs) 15:57, 9 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Reviewer: Governor Sheng (talk · contribs) 06:25, 23 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Lead

Suggestion to define Martín as a maritime pilot instead of just a pilot. My first impression was that he was an airborne pilot, which amazed me considering he was born in the 16th century. I emphasise this is just a suggestion, since I'm not familiar with maritime phrases, though my opinion can be as good as that of an average reader, and in that view, a clarification might be necessary.

• Done

Early life

Same as above. When he was described as a pilot for the first time, I think it would be beneficial to describe him as a maritime pilot (with a link), and continue using just pilot elsewhere.

• Done

The last sentence - "Martín also claimed to have a wife living in the town" remains unclear. Was this just a claim, ie a false statement, or did he genuinely state at some point that he indeed has a wife, although this couldn't be confirmed by other sources?

• Changed "claimed" to "stated" to be more neutral

Legazpi expedition

Is Esteban Rodríguez a notable person? If so, there should be a link, even if the article isn't created yet. Considering that Rodríguez's wage was higher, this could be the case. Also, the same goes for Hernán Sánchez Muñón. Please, be free to differ if you think I'm wrong.

• Unfortunately, as far as I know, there is very little information concerning either of these men outside of what's here. There was an interesting man named Esteban Rodríguez de Figueroa who took part in the voyage, but I'm not sure they're the same person because there are some inconsistencies. I'll do more research into it later. For now, I'd prefer to leave them how they are.

Return voyage

"Repaired, the San Lucas left the cove on 4 March and continued around Mindanao". Was it not said in the previous chapter that the San Lucas travelled to the Davao Gulf instead of along Mindano because of the current?

• Sorry, they went the opposite way; instead of sailing back north along Mindanao, they continued west towards the heart of the Philippines. Clarified in the text Kimikel (talk) 11:44, 26 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
• Well-written: Passed

the prose is clear, concise, and understandable to an appropriately broad audience; spelling and grammar are correct; and Passed

it complies with the Manual of Style guidelines for lead sections, layout, words to watch, fiction, and list incorporation. Passed

• Verifiable with no original research:

it contains a list of all references (sources of information), presented in accordance with the layout style guideline; Passed

reliable sources are cited inline. All content that could reasonably be challenged, except for plot summaries and that which summarizes cited content elsewhere in the article, must be cited no later than the end of the paragraph (or line if the content is not in prose); Passed

it contains no original research; and Passed

it contains no copyright violations or plagiarism. Passed

• Broad in its coverage: Passed

it addresses the main aspects of the topic; and Passed

it stays focused on the topic without going into unnecessary detail (see summary style). Passed

• Neutral: it represents viewpoints fairly and without editorial bias, giving due weight to each. Passed

• Stable: it does not change significantly from day to day because of an ongoing edit war or content dispute. Passed

• Illustrated, if possible, by media such as images, video, or audio: Passed

media are tagged with their copyright statuses, and valid non-free use rationales are provided for non-free content; and Passed

media are relevant to the topic, and have suitable captions. Passed

All in all, the article is well written, properly sourced, and most importantly if follows WP's MoS, except in cases indicated above.

@Governor Sheng: Thank you for the excellent review and I apologize for all the confusion after I closed the first one. I've addressed all of your comments; please let me know if there are any other improvements I can make. Thank you again. Kimikel (talk) 11:44, 26 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

All else is good to go. Thank you. Governor Sheng (talk) 13:21, 29 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

--Governor Sheng (talk) 06:26, 23 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

My goal with this article is to take it to FAC (this would be my second). I would especially appreciate help rewording any awkward phrasing and assuring that the article is fully on-topic (I'm worried it may be a bit too long, but I may be overthinking). Of course, any type of feedback at all would be excellent.

Thank you, Kimikel (talk) 18:07, 30 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Kimikel: This has been open for almost two months, but has not received comments. Are you still interested in receiving feedback? Z1720 (talk) 00:57, 27 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Z1720 Yes, I am still interested. Kimikel (talk) 01:35, 27 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Kimikel: I recommend asking for comments on the Wikiprojects attached to this article. I also recommend that you review articles at WP:FAC now in order to continue learning about the FA criteria and to build goodwill amongst FAC reviewers, causing your nominations to be reviewed more quickly. Z1720 (talk) 01:42, 27 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I appreciate the advice. If I have more time for Wikipedia I'll try to be more active in getting this reviewed. Thank you for leaving your comment. Kimikel (talk) 01:44, 27 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

• Peer review coming soon (probably tomorrow). History6042😊 (Contact me) 01:17, 12 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

  Lede review:

  • All images have alt text, good.
  • In the infobox please change Pilot to Maritime Pilot, this seems misleading.
  • "Afro-Portuguese maritime pilot" is a MOS:SEAOFBLUE violation.
  • "mulatto" needs to be italicized.
  • In the last sentence of the first paragraph, please specify if the rest of the fleet met up and rejoined with them for the return trip.
  • Not sure if in the infobox, "Disappeared" is the best word, his going missing was intentional not a secret or anything.
  • Ping when done, rest coming later.

• @History6042: Done with the exception of the "Disappeared"; I'm not sure that the person infobox has a more fitting parameter. Kimikel (talk) 02:27, 12 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

• History6042😊 (Contact me) 01:35, 12 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

  Early life review: History6042😊 (Contact me) 14:59, 12 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

  • "He was a free mulatto of Portuguese and African descent; his African ancestors were brought to Portugal as slaves" can either be two sentences, "He was a free mulatto of Portuguese and African descent, and his African ancestors were brought to Portugal as slaves" or "He was a free mulatto of Portuguese and African descent, whose African ancestors were brought to Portugal as slaves".

  History6042😊 (Contact me) 15:50, 12 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

  Changed the semicolon to "whose" Kimikel (talk) 02:09, 15 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

  Legazpi expedition review: History6042😊 (Contact me) 13:57, 26 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

  • Please specify the East Indies.
  • "four ships were constructed for the expedition and a crew of 380 people," -> "four ships were constructed for the expedition, and a crew of 380 people,"
  • "than the lead pilot Esteban Rodríguez" -> "than the lead pilot, Esteban Rodríguez"
  • Can you explain how much water is in a cask, 8 doesn't seem like much, but they could be big casks.
  • "original captain Hernán Sánchez Muñón" -> "original captain, Hernán Sánchez Muñón"
  • "the fleet commander Miguel López de Legazpi appointed the nobleman Alonso de Arellano in his stead." -> "the fleet commander, Miguel López de Legazpi, appointed the nobleman Alonso de Arellano in his stead."
  • "arriving on 17 January to most likely Chuuk Lagoon." -> "arriving on 17 January to what was most likely Chuuk Lagoon."
  • "water for the natives and one of the canoes" -> "water for the natives, and one of the canoes"
  • "Martín suggested to Arellano that like Ruy López de Villalobos," -> "Martín suggested to Arellano that, like Ruy López de Villalobos,"
  • "period of celebration was interrupted when on 8 October 1565," -> "period of celebration was interrupted when, on 8 October 1565,"

  History6042😊 (Contact me) 14:11, 26 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

  @History6042 sorry for the delay. I've implemented most of your suggestions or changed the sentences in other ways to improve them. Thank you. Kimikel (talk) 22:00, 31 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

  Pass. History6042😊 (Contact me) 23:44, 31 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I'm reading this now. I'm having a terrible sense of deja vu. I'm sure I've read the bit about the mutinies and fear of execution before. Is it possible some of this material was covered in another article recently that I might have also reviewed?

• I'm wondering if it's necessary to say Maritime pilot, since at the time, no other kind of pilot existed. But it might be OK as is.
• There's a few technical terms which could use a short definition inline, per WP:MTAU: patache, league (perhaps just use {{convert}} for this, cross sea, culverin, arquebus.
• I know this isn't trivial, but could you provide some estimate of how much a ducat was worth vs some modern well-known currency? You talk about being paid 700 ducats, but I have no idea if that's a lot or a little? How does that compare with, say, the wages an average tradesman would earn in a year? Also, how many pesos in a ducat?
• Before him, numerous explorers had sailed to Asia from the Americas, but none had managed to return I have to wonder (and so will our readers) if nobody ever returned, how do we even know they got there? Surely they weren't live-blogging their trip on TikTok.

That's it from me on a quick read through. In general, I think the writing is fine. I don't anticipate any problems at FAC. RoySmith (talk) 19:45, 24 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I appreciate your review Roy. I believe I've addressed everything; I'll probably send it up to FAC soon, pending the end of the other review. Thank you! Kimikel (talk) 01:58, 25 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]