Talk:American frontier

Requested move 27 March 2025

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The result of the move request was: not moved. – robertsky (talk) 16:03, 3 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

American frontier → Wild WestWild West – Per WP:COMMONNAME. The ngram indicates a higher appearance of Wild West compared to American frontier. Wikiexplorationandhelping (talk) 02:04, 27 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Let me add that but it's mostly a 20th century invention as opposed to the actual frontier. Will Wright said in 2001: "The Wild West is probably the most popular myth of our time. It is celebrated in movies, television, novels, and advertising, as well as in clothes, furniture, art, music, rodeos, vacations...." [ Will Wright, The Wild West: The Mythical Cowboy and Social Theory (2001)]. See also Paul Christensen . “The ‘Wild West’: The Life and Death of a Myth.” Southwest Review, vol. 93, no. 3, 2008, pp. 310–25. online at http://www.jstor.org/stable/43472911 Rjensen (talk) 23:07, 27 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Actually it's a myth that was also celebrated when it was taking place (dime novels and so on) in addition to later on. But as we've noted, that's not what this article is about. Intothatdarkness 11:06, 28 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, excellent point, and I now see we do cover it at Frontier myth. Andrewa (talk) 09:37, 3 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Should there be made a page for the Albertan stampede wild west?

Alberta in Canada had a old/wild west era as well with stampedes. Shouldn't there be made a page talking about that era? Leikstjórinn (talk) 14:10, 22 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

this doesn’t read as relevant (development of democracy)

the paragraph about the development of democracy that has this as it's second line "Selwyn Troen has made the comparison with Israel…" doesn't read as relevant. It doesn't accurately account for or analyze the development of democracy in either settler colonies, and is reading like its doing something political rather than informative. If the paragraph described the development of democratic processes or institutions, it might be relevant, though here it reads as awkward, unnecessary and politically motivated. Also, it doesn't problematize indigenous genocide in either colony, so the actual points of comparison are ignored. Can we remove it? Kikila mai Tawhiti (talk) 17:56, 19 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Keep this is a major scholarly article in a leading scholarly journal that covers the methods of comparing frontiers. The article spends about a third of its space on negative aspects of US and Israel. Rjensen (talk) 19:02, 19 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Support removal as not relevant. Nikkimaria (talk) 03:59, 20 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Support removal as well. Scholarly or not, it's not relevant to the article. Intothatdarkness 11:50, 20 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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