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{{ping|Serial Number 54129}} Exceedingly useful. I only have half a dozen of those, so that is going to keep me out of trouble for a while. What an unexpected pleasure. Many thanks. [[User:Gog the Mild|Gog the Mild]] ([[User talk:Gog the Mild#top|talk]]) 12:49, 26 July 2019 (UTC)
{{ping|Serial Number 54129}} Exceedingly useful. I only have half a dozen of those, so that is going to keep me out of trouble for a while. What an unexpected pleasure. Many thanks. [[User:Gog the Mild|Gog the Mild]] ([[User talk:Gog the Mild#top|talk]]) 12:49, 26 July 2019 (UTC)

==[[Battle of Blanchetaque]] scheduled for TFA==
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Your GA nomination of Battle of Cape Ecnomus

The article Battle of Cape Ecnomus you nominated as a good article has passed ; see Talk:Battle of Cape Ecnomus for comments about the article. Well done! If the article has not already been on the main page as an "In the news" or "Did you know" item, you can nominate it to appear in Did you know. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Cplakidas -- Cplakidas (talk) 21:02, 22 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

February 2019 GOCE blitz bling

The Cleanup Barnstar
This barnstar is awarded to Gog the Mild for copy edits totaling over 6,000 words (including rollover words) during the GOCE February 2019 Copy Editing Blitz. Congratulations, and thank you for your contributions! Reidgreg (talk) 21:08, 25 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

A barnstar for you!

The Tireless Contributor Barnstar
A small token of appreciation for your outstanding work on this place. - LouisAragon (talk) 13:43, 2 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Louis. That is extremely generous of you. I am not sure what I have done that is so outstanding, but the barnstar is much appreciated nonetheless. Gog the Mild (talk) 17:52, 2 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Following on from the above, I see Battle of Auberoche is the TFA of Wikipedia for today, well done! I really have to step up and take some of the articles I work on to FA. Zawed (talk) 21:11, 2 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Hi Zawed. Thanks. Yes, my first TFA. Tomorrow I am going to have to go through it sifting all the edits generated by the increase in views. Many helpful, some not so - see the thread above this one.
I was startled, having just checked your user page, to see that you had no FAs. Given the quality of your articles, this baffles me. Skimming your 18[!] A class, I think that all of them are ready for ACR. If I were you I would nominate one, say Kippenberger, and get my feet wet. I don't see that much, if any, further work is needed to prepare it. Gog the Mild (talk) 15:37, 3 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Zawed, well yes. I was wetting myself the first time I put something in for ACR, and highly nervous about my first FAC. For what it's worth I have found ACR a more testing stage than FAC. I don't thing that most articles have gone through ACR before FAC, so ours will look relatively polished and have far fewer glaring errors. There will be the usual irritating personal opinions and odd interpretations of the MoS, but if push comes to shove the FAC coordinators are more than ready to overrule or ignore that sort of input. Just nominate one. I'll review it straight away, so you will be off to a flying start. Or if you want, I'll give one a GOCE type copy edit plus comments on where it might be picked at at FAC; there are a couple of experienced editors I do this for. Gog the Mild (talk) 12:41, 4 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Lets see:
  • Kind
  • Cooperative
  • Gives proper feedback
  • GA's
  • FA's
  • DYK's
  • Does maintenance work and performs copy edits as well.
Yep, pretty "outstanding" in my books. ;-) - LouisAragon (talk) 23:09, 3 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]
OK, OK. Enough already. I'm blushing. I get your point. And thank you. @LouisAragon: BTW, that was a good little article I just looked at; not a lot for me to do. Gog the Mild (talk) 00:08, 4 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]
You're welcome Gog.
Thanks for checking the article, appreciate it. Keep up the great work!
Cheers, - LouisAragon (talk) 17:21, 4 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Siege of Aiguillon scheduled for TFA

This is to let you know that the Siege of Aiguillon article has been scheduled as today's featured article for April 1, 2019. Please check the article needs no amendments. If you're interested in editing the main page text, you're welcome to do so at Wikipedia:Today's featured article/April 1, 2019, but note that a coordinator will trim the lead to around 1000 characters anyway, so you aren't obliged to do so.

We also suggest that you watchlist Wikipedia:Main Page/Errors on the day before and the day of this TFA. Thanks! Jimfbleak - talk to me? 13:39, 5 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

April
... with thanks from QAI

Thank you, and all who helped, for "a turning point in the Hundred Years' War which has been almost completely ignored by historians. In 1346 Prince John, the French King's son and heir, marched a "huge" army into Gascony, supported by a large siege train, five cutting edge gunpowder cannon and every military officer in the royal court. They besieged Aiguillon, "the key to Gascony". The English commander, the Earl of Lancaster, adroitly avoided battle, harassed the French communications, and repeatedly ran supplies through to the besieged town. After more than five months John abandoned the siege under direct orders from his father, who needed all the troops he could muster to face an unexpected invasion in the north by Edward III. John's army arrived two weeks after the French army of the north had been crushingly defeated at the Battle of Crecy."! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:33, 1 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Four Award

Four Award
Congratulations! You have been awarded the Four Award for your work from beginning to end on Gascon campaign of 1345. « Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 15:53, 6 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Help in Spaceflight

Good day to you, sir! WP Spaceflight is undergoing a bit of a renaissance with more articles spawning these days. We're overtaxing our few qualified editors, however. Would you be able to assist with our FAC and GAC backlog and/or perhaps get the assistance of some of your colleagues in milhist?

Much obliged for any help you can render (and I'd leave mine alone until I can update the refs with the complete ones now updates for Solrad 1).

--Neopeius (talk) 16:18, 6 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Neopeius, good to hear from you. Manned spaceflight isn't really something that interests me. (I have been keeping an eye on Solrad, but I thought that I would let things die down a bit before stepping in.) That said, always happy to lend a hand, other commitments permitting. Did you have anything specific in mind, article wise?
You could try asking on the MilHist Talk Page. If you do I would suggest that you specify two or three articles WP SpFl would like a hand with, and/or suggest that there may be some pay back at some time in the future. I suspect that many members are likely to be inward looking, note that there are already a good number of WP Sp Fl articles in their queue (see the top of the talk page) and that WP MH is already overloaded, and so be less than sympathetic. Gog the Mild (talk) 22:20, 7 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Hello, Gog! I replied, but it didn't take. I also am not much interested in human spaceflight, although I do plan to work on Gemini a bit. In a few days, I plan to update the citations for the SOLRAD series, once I'm done upgrading SOLRAD 1 for the featured review. Once that happens, I'd appreciate help with GAs, if you can spare any time. And, of course, I'm always happy to return favors. :) --Neopeius (talk) 17:22, 9 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]
@Neopeius: That sounds good to me. Let me know when Solrad 1 is done and I'll do a review. When you have anything else ready, give me a shout. If I need a hand with something I'll let you know. Obviously, we won't be making it easy on each other re the content of those reviews. I think that you got a feel for how I review with SolRad 1. Gog the Mild (talk) 20:29, 9 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]
I am looking forward to it. I wrote the others with that experience in mind! --Neopeius (talk) 23:26, 9 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]
SOLRAD 2 and SOLRAD 3 are ready for G.A. review. :) --Neopeius (talk) 17:18, 10 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]
@Neopeius: I will assess SOLRAD 2. IMO it would be helpful to you to get input from another assessor, so I will leave SOLRAD 3. (At least for now.) It may take me a few days to get it under weigh. Gog the Mild (talk) 17:37, 10 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]
It's all much of a muchness. SOLRADS 1-4B were part of the same program, and I've build their pages modularly with the same citations. (i.e. if one is a GA, they probably all are now, barring minor prose quibbles). --Neopeius (talk) 17:41, 10 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Yep. I noticed. That is why it will be interesting to see how different assessors pick up on different issues - or don't. Gog the Mild (talk) 17:44, 10 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Marcus Aurelius

G'day Gog, I appreciate that the ACR source review of this article has been a bit of a "hospital pass", but am wondering if you could take another look and decide about whether to support or oppose on sourcing. The referencing is rather non-standard, there are some MOS issues, and there looks to be a few things outstanding, but I'm not sure whether you consider them to be major or minor, or even how many of them are outstanding. Cheers, Peacemaker67 (click to talk to me) 02:49, 8 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@Peacemaker67: Well, if I didn't have a sense of humour, I shouldn't have volunteered. I have been keeping an eye on this, hoping that it would improve. I would appreciate someone glancing over my shoulder on this and will have no qualms about being contradicted on anything I write. Now done. I have tried to keep it short, I don't see that there is much to be gained by rehearsing each and every problem I have noticed. Gog the Mild (talk) 11:50, 8 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]
@Peacemaker67: You may be interested in this related thread - User talk:Cplakidas#Input appreciated. Gog the Mild (talk) 12:36, 12 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Talk:Gnaeus Calpurnius Piso (consul 23 BC)/GA1

Hi Gog the Mild. Just checking to see if you have seen the comments at Talk:Gnaeus Calpurnius Piso (consul 23 BC)/GA1. It looks like it is close to passing. AIRcorn (talk) 22:06, 9 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@Aircorn: Oops. You know, I had completely forgotten about it. I will try to wrap it up tomorrow. Gog the Mild (talk) 22:22, 9 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]
No problem. Just trying to keep these things moving. It is great when editors can get back to them, a lot seem to get abandoned. AIRcorn (talk) 22:24, 9 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Really. I am amazed. I haven't abandoned one yet. I got bogged down in ACRs and FACs and lost track of it. I'll get on to it. Gog the Mild (talk) 22:30, 9 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]
I understand that. I have done the same when real life suddenly gets in the way or you get a surprise early review of a GA. To be fair most abandoned ones are from the same reviewers. It seems they take a few on and then suddenly stop editing. I have just taken over seven and marked another three that I will get onto in the next little while if no one beats me to it. Another editor claimed 11 and then disappeared (they were eventually deleted) Maybe "a lot" is an exaggeration, but either way it is great to see quick responses to my queries. Regards AIRcorn (talk) 22:42, 9 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

The Bugle: Issue CLV, March 2019

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A barnstar for you!

The Citation Barnstar
58 sources whew lad puggo (talk) 20:20, 10 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Why, thankee kindly puggo. Much appreciated. I try to keep Wikipedia neat and tidy. Gog the Mild (talk) 20:39, 10 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Another B-star for you

The Original Barnstar, for good deed #1 The Original Barnstar
This barnstar is for Wiki-gnoming it all over the place! GenQuest "Talk to Me" 23:01, 10 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@GenQuest: What a pleasant surprise. It seems to be my day for barnstars. Many thanks. I do like to do a bit of Wiki-gnoming of an evening. It is nice that it is appreciated.

PS. Any reason for it being 50px rather than the more normal 100px? Gog the Mild (talk) 23:18, 10 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Razing of Friesoythe

Hi, I stumbled across what I think was one of the books I had in the back of my mind in the Razing of Friesoythe article's ACR today. I've added material from it discussing Allied retaliation policies, which form part of its brief discussion of Friesoythe. The book is slightly frustrating in that it's vague about the frequency of such retaliations, noting that they were uncommon but then focusing on those which occurred (something I find is a frequent problem in this kind of revisionist work by academics, especially during the 1990s when they were rather naive about how their work would be used by the far right). Let me know what you think. Nick-D (talk) 05:57, 11 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Nick and apologies for the late response; with one thing and another I missed this. The Briddiscombe source is excellent and is just what the article was missing. On a first skim it seems to sit well within the article - thank you. I well remember your comment that some contextualisation would be helpful, and my frustration as to whether such a thing even existed in a RS. This was my first A class article and I think that the nagging thought that I hadn't put the event in a proper context was what stopped me from ever nominating it for FA.
I shall copy edit, read Briddiscombe and have a look as to whether the whole article needs reorganising in the light of the new material. It may yet make it to FA. Thanks again. Gog the Mild (talk) 13:15, 3 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

DYK for Battle of Cape Ecnomus

On 12 March 2019, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Battle of Cape Ecnomus, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that the Battle of Cape Ecnomus in 256 BC was probably the largest naval battle ever? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Battle of Cape Ecnomus. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Battle of Cape Ecnomus), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 00:02, 12 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

March GOCE newsletter

Guild of Copy Editors March 2019 Newsletter

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For your help with SOLRADS 1 and 2...

The Vanstar
Please accept this Vanstar for conspicuous gallantry in the field of Spaceflight! --Neopeius (talk) 17:30, 21 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

A-class of the Battle of Cape Ecnomus

Hey Gog I don't wanna disturb you but I just realised that your A-class of the Battle of Cape Ecnomus nomination is already a month dead. Just curious when you will continue the nomination? If I disturb you then sorry for disturbing you just curious when you will response. Cheers mate. CPA-5 (talk) 18:19, 27 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Hi CPA-5. Thanks for the reminder. I think that I have got involved with other things and taken my eye off that. I will get onto it over the next few days. ( I am away at the moment, so there may be a delay.) Thanks again for the reminder. Gog the Mild (talk) 18:34, 27 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Great to hear, in the meantime (when you are gone) I will have a review in the article. And don't worry I know some people are busy with other articles like an example I reviewed an article about the French Bretagne ship by Sturm and PB in end December but one of them reponse at the end of January this year I waited more than a month just for one response. Ah but if you are busy then you'd forgot some articles anyway have a nice day. Cheers mate. CPA-5 (talk) 18:48, 27 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Congratulations on the articles promotion. You will see I have finished off my review. You appear to have missed my last (much earlier) comment per:

By this time Douglas had marched south to Bamburgh, perhaps hoping for a repeat of the events of 1319, when Edward II had broken off a siege of Berwick after a Scottish army had advanced on York, where his queen was staying, and devastated Yorkshire. Whatever concerns Edward III had for his queen, he knew that Bamburgh could easily withstand a siege. The Scots did not have the time to construct the kind of equipment that would be necessary to take the fortress by assault. The Scots devastated the countryside but Edward III ignored this.

I have broken this sentence down but still have some concerns that I can't resolve myself. "Perhaps hoping" is speculative and comes under words-to-watch unless it is attributed? That "he knew" is opinion expressed in a wiki voice. Again, I think it should be attributed. That Edward "ignored this", is similar but not of the same import (ie of marginal concern).

English casualties were reported as fourteen; some chronicles give a lower figure of seven.[59][60] Two sources are cited but "some" is both imprecise and more than one, and there are guidelines re words-to-watch, imprecision in writing and being specific in attribution. There are lots of ways to address this (including a footnote) but it depends on who said what - who says fourteen and who says some chronicles? With this info, I could be more forward with a course.

Hope these points are sufficiently clear. Regards, Cinderella157 (talk) 10:17, 30 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Cinderella157, good to hear from you again. Apologies for missing one of your suggestions, it wasn't deliberate. If I hadn't liked it I would have said so. I have rewritten to try and clarify things and have attempted to cite each sentence rather than group the cites at the end of the paragraph. "hoped" is the word used in the source (a very reliable one).
"he knew": there is a source which explicitly says this, and it is implicit in all accounts, but I agree that it reads as unencyclopdic, so have reworded.
"ignored": I have referenced the sentence directly to two sources. One uses "ignored", the other "refused to be drawn".
"some chronicles": Nicholson, the only specific treatment of the siege, and to whom I have cited the statement states "some chroniclers thought …". He does not specify the number nor directly cite it. I could rephrase it as "one chronicle give a lower figure of seven and another nine", citing to Nicholson's footnotes; but IMO that would be OR - the source just states "some". ("If English chroniclers were to be believed … the loss reputedly limited to one knight, one esquire and twelve footman. But some chroniclers thought these English casualties excessively large and pruned them to seven footmen...") Gog the Mild (talk) 12:50, 30 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Looking at that, I suggest: English casualties were reported as fourteen;[61][62] however, Nicholson, observes that some chronicles have given lesser figures as low as seven.[62] Note, Nicholson has already been introduced more fully.
I am not happy with the proposed wording and do not see the point. I am not starting the sentence with "Nicholson observes that English casualties were reported as fourteen", which seems to me to be directly comparable.
On "perhaps hoped", the issue is with "perhaps" if the author being cited did not say as much. I think, in such a case of "He knew" and "hoped", it is better to more directly attribute these to Nicholson as an indirect quote. I suggest:
By this time Douglas had marched south to Bamburgh. Nicholson, suggests [concudes/reports - your choice] that Douglas hoped for a repeat of the events of 1319.[ref] In that year, Edward II had broken off a siege of Berwick after a Scottish army had advanced on York, where his queen was staying, and devastated Yorkshire. Whatever concerns Edward III had for his queen, Nicholson observes that Edward knew that Bamburgh could easily withstand a siege.[ref] [While] The Scots did not have the time to construct the kind of equipment that would be necessary to take the fortress by assault. The Scots devastated the countryside but Edward III ignored [was not diverted by] this.
Er, given your first sentence and that I removed "perhaps", I am not sure why you feel that further amendments are necessary. (I assume that that is your position, as opposed to their being aesthetically or stylistically desirable.) See my response above. Is it Wikipedia policy that whenever text is drawn from a source that the author(s) be mentioned in line?
Underlined text has possible variations. I prefer our earlier version (I only cut the long sentence in two) to your recent edit. The more recent edit seems "clunky". As I said before, any issue with "ignored" is marginal. I only raised it because it fell with the rest but it can, itself, be ignored. Regards, Cinderella157 (talk) 00:03, 31 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Hi again Cinderella157. I have held off on your points immediately above, which I am minded to agree with, until we have thrashed out the attribution issue. Gog the Mild (talk) 17:28, 31 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]
My turn to miss your last post but one - apologies. :) "Hoped" and "knew" are opinion. They fall close to editorialising - which was my original comment. It is acceptable to use editorial phrases/words to watch if it is clear that they are attributed to another and not being used in the wiki voice. Indirectly quoting and attributing this to Nicholson inline makes it clear that this is Nicholson's opinion and not wiki synthesis - that any speculation/mind reading is not wiki's. You might also see Template:Attribution needed. Alternatively, substitute "hoped": Douglas intended to repeat the events ... Similarly, remove "knew": Bamburgh was well fortified and provisioned. (If this was indeed the case and the reason for Edwards confidence). But I am trying to propose only minimal changes. Hope this clarifies the rationale for my concerns. Regards, Cinderella157 (talk) 22:28, 31 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

The article Gnaeus Calpurnius Piso (consul 23 BC) you nominated as a good article has failed ; see Talk:Gnaeus Calpurnius Piso (consul 23 BC) for reasons why the nomination failed. If or when these points have been taken care of, you may apply for a new nomination of the article. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Llywrch -- Llywrch (talk) 07:01, 2 April 2019 (UTC)== Congratulations from the Military History Project ==[reply]

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March 2019 GOCE drive bling!

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Civility Barnstar

You may have to take it away from me... :) --Neopeius (talk) 01:45, 13 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Coast Guard barnstar

The Coast Guard Star
I hereby award you the Coast Guard Star for your rescue of dead links in the Wikipedia article United States Coast Guard. These links were lost as a result of the Coast Guard Historian's Office conversion to Department of Defense website protocols. I also wish recognize your efforts in rescuing dead links in the Wikipedia article United States Armed Forces that you edited the same day. For your exceptional efforts, I award you the Coast Guard Star. Thank you and Semper Paratus! Cuprum17 (talk) 18:23, 14 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Cuprum17, that is extremely kind of you. It is pleasing that my humble Wiki-gnome efforts have received some recognition. Thank you. Gog the Mild (talk) 18:28, 14 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

As a fellow Wiki-Gnome I understand completely! It can be a largely unappreciated effort at times...Cuprum17 (talk) 18:35, 14 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

SMS Lothringen

See Gog the ship SMS Lothringen got promoted. I told you everything would be fine. As long you believe in your felow wikipedians then everything would be okay. Cheers. CPA-5 (talk) 20:41, 15 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@CPA-5: You are, as usual, quite right. I should trust more. Gog the Mild (talk) 10:25, 16 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Well Gog it wasn't really a wrong decision of yours. It was more an instinct feeling than a choice of the brain. It thanks to you that the article got promoted. So I'd say good job. Cheers. CPA-5 (talk) 08:54, 18 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

April blitz bling

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Hi there, I'm pleased to inform you that I've begun reviewing the article Chevauchée of Edward III (1346) you nominated for GA-status according to the criteria. This process may take up to 7 days. Feel free to contact me with any questions or comments you might have during this period. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Sturmvogel 66 -- Sturmvogel 66 (talk) 05:01, 30 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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Rhine Campaign of 1795 Reply Comment

Hi Gog, would you take a look at Rhine_Campaign_of_1795 again before I nominate for A-class? Thank you! Cheers, auntieruth (talk) 13:31, 2 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

For your steady production of quality content

The Feather Barnstar
As a small token of appreciation for your continued work on this encyclopedia, particularly expanding our One Hundred Years' War coverage, I grant you the Feather Barnstar. May it give you a small burst of inspiration to carry on slaying the beast. RetiredDuke (talk) 16:12, 4 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@RetiredDuke: This is extremely kind of you. It is always good to have one's input appreciated, and this does, indeed, inspire me to step once more into the breach. Thank you. Gog the Mild (talk) 19:38, 4 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Do

NOT run IABot with the option Archive non-dead sources (or some option like that) checked on. WBGconverse 10:34, 6 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for reviewing article. If you're ready to pass the article, don't forget to update the talk page according to Wikipedia:Good_article_nominations/Instructions#Passing, so that the bots will trigger the formalities. Just a reminder so that it won't slip your attention. Thank you! HaEr48 (talk) 16:56, 6 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@HaEr48: I am quite certain that I did that. But you are correct, it's not showing; I must have forgotten to click "Publish" , so thanks for the reminder. Gog the Mild (talk) 17:06, 6 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Ah, I see. I understand, that has happened to me a few times too HaEr48 (talk) 17:11, 6 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Donner Party

Hello Gog:

I've finished the copy edit you requested of the article Donner Party. I think it's ready for its appearance as TFY.

Regards,

Twofingered Typist (talk) 22:05, 6 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Twofingered Typist and thanks. I am not sure how I got talked into pre-checking the TFAs, but it is good to know that a safe pair of hands is available when I get out of my depth. Gog the Mild (talk) 09:53, 7 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
@Gog the Mild: Happy to help! Cheers - Twofingered Typist (talk) 12:02, 7 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

A-Class review

Hey Gog. Is there anything left for me to do at Wikipedia:WikiProject Military history/Assessment/Safavid occupation of Basra (1697–1701)? Its been some days so I was wondering. - LouisAragon (talk) 16:16, 7 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Louis. So far as I can see, no. You are just waiting for two more reviewers and a source review. If needed I shall do one of them.
No pressure, but if you fancy reviewing Wikipedia:WikiProject Military history/Assessment/Battle of Cape Ecnomus I would be grateful.
Thanks. Gog the Mild (talk) 16:22, 7 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Sure thing.[1] - LouisAragon (talk) 18:33, 7 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Chevauchée of Edward III

Hi Gog, just picked up that there is a discrepancy in dates in the article. 3 August is listed in text in lead as end of Chevauchée, however in infobox 28 September is shown. Can you check which is correct? Regards Newm30 (talk) 22:03, 8 May 2019 (UTC)3 August 1347[reply]

@Newm30: Well spotted. Thank you. One is the date Calais fell; the other the date of the truce which ended hostilities. I have gone with the first of these. Does that seem reasonable? Gog the Mild (talk) 22:07, 8 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
The 3 August would be the appropriate date used as the capitulation of Calais effectively ended the campaign from an English perspective I assume. Regards Newm30 (talk) 22:15, 8 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Hi there, I'm pleased to inform you that I've begun reviewing the article Siege of Calais (1346–1347) you nominated for GA-status according to the criteria. This process may take up to 7 days. Feel free to contact me with any questions or comments you might have during this period. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Peacemaker67 -- Peacemaker67 (talk) 06:40, 9 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

The article Siege of Calais (1346–1347) you nominated as a good article has been placed on hold . The article is close to meeting the good article criteria, but there are some minor changes or clarifications needing to be addressed. If these are fixed within 7 days, the article will pass; otherwise it may fail. See Talk:Siege of Calais (1346–1347) for issues which need to be addressed. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Peacemaker67 -- Peacemaker67 (talk) 07:20, 9 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Gog. Hope, all is well. If you are fine, can you copy edit this stub-sized draft.? (Especially 'Content and Style' section needs paraphrasing for style). Feel free to trim anything. --Gazal world (talk) 14:14, 9 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Gog. FYI, I requested on GOCE for copy editing. --Gazal world (talk) 13:22, 10 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Battle of Crécy

Hi Gog, I am just reading while in hospital (routine surgery) and found on via article Genoese crossbowmen that the French lines of Genoese crossbowmen mercenaries at the Battle of Crécy were led by Ottone Doria and Carlo Grimaldi. Not sure if that is shown in article? Regards Newm30 (talk) 14:38, 9 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

No. (I deleted it from the infobox as unsourced.) What is the source?

I hope that everything runs smoothly while you are in. Gog the Mild (talk) 14:40, 9 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Gog, the following seems to identify him https://books.google.com.au/books?id=qIMlDwAAQBAJ&pg=PA52&lpg=PA52&dq=Ottone+Doria&source=bl&ots=1CfAwXgIGA&sig=ACfU3U2DYoox2nCTHHbeoTFmfmF3YN1ZKA&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjvu_bK7I7iAhVm73MBHeY_A4QQ6AEwD3oECAUQAQ, I just can't read page number as phone won't let me zoom in. Surgery went well and feel better than previous. Regards Newm30 (talk) 16:24, 9 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks. I have found a RS to support that, and it also gave some other useful information.
Trying to spend today fielding comments on the various articles I have in for assessment, but dealing with the image queries is frustrating.
I hope that you are out of there and back on form soon.
Gog the Mild (talk) 16:42, 9 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Siege of Berwick (1333)

G’day Gog, feeling a bit sore after the surgery but will keep plugging away. Was just wondering whether Edward Balliol should be listed as a commander in the English column either under English banner or Disinherited banner? I’m not sure what arms (heraldry) he would hold as the “alternate” King of Scotland. I will check if McAndrew says anything about his seal during this time. Regards Newm30 (talk) 12:22, 10 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@Newm30: Expected soreness? Or anything to worry about?
Very good point. He was in sole charge of the siege for a couple of months, so he should.
So far as he was concerned, he was the legitimate king, so I imagine that his arms should be the normal Scottish ones.
Gog the Mild (talk) 12:46, 10 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Expected pain after repairs to hernia. Better though than repair done 15 years ago where large incision was made rather than key hole.
Balliol’s 1333 seal has him seated with the arms of King of Scotland on the left and Balliol arms on the right. So I would agree that the arms of king of Scotland to be used. This then brings about whether arms of Scots commanders should be changed to their personal arms. Regards Newm30 (talk) 13:09, 10 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
For what it's worth, my opinion would be not. They weren't fighting in a personal capacity, but as representatives of the Scottish Crown. It would have been a Scottish standard flying over Berwick. And having the same arms on both sides of an infobox is not unusual - eg civil wars. Gog the Mild (talk) 13:23, 10 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Constantine V

Thanks for reviewing the article, unfortunately I have leaking roof problem, amongst other things, so cannot invest the time to address the points. Urselius (talk) 18:21, 10 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Urselius. Not to worry, I hope that you get your roof sorted out. As and when you are able to repost the nomination give me a ping and if I can I will relook at it. Obviously, if by then you had had a look at my previous comments it would be helpful. Gog the Mild (talk) 12:50, 11 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

The article Siege of Calais (1346–1347) you nominated as a good article has passed ; see Talk:Siege of Calais (1346–1347) for comments about the article. Well done! If the article has not already been on the main page as an "In the news" or "Did you know" item, you can nominate it to appear in Did you know. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Peacemaker67 -- Peacemaker67 (talk) 00:22, 11 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

The Bugle: Issue CLVII, May 2019

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History of Aston Villa F.C. (1961–present)

Hello Gog:

The copy edit your requested for History of Aston Villa F.C. (1961–present) before its TFA appearance has been completed.

I had to expand the lede as almost a decade of the team's history was not mentioned in it. I also got rid of all the citations in the lede and made sure all of its the text was also in the body of the article.

It seems in good shape to me at this point, but I welcome any comments.

Regards,

Twofingered Typist (talk) 18:20, 14 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks TfT, much appreciated. I shall run an eye over it. At first glance it looks like your usual sterling work. Gog the Mild (talk) 18:23, 14 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Hi TfT. I have just been through properly. A very impressive job. I trimmed the lead a little, but found nothing else to do. Thanks again. Gog the Mild (talk) 16:53, 15 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
It was stupid of me not to check the names of the two current owners! Lesson learned. :-) Twofingered Typist (talk) 19:36, 15 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
User:Twofingered Typist, it helps if you live in the UK, less that 50 miles from Villa's ground. The names aren't exactly household, but they rang bells. Anyway, it made my day, picking up something that you had missed. Gog the Mild (talk) 19:45, 15 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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WikiJournal

Aha, that makes sense. I'd wanted to make sure that I contacted all the high-contribution editors for the article so as not to exclude anyone who did a lot of work on it. Now that I double-check with the whocolor tool I see what you're saying. Rather an oversight on my part given the array of FAs and GAs you've worked on in a far more extensive manner, and are within-scope of what the WikiJournal of Humanities tackles. Do you have any favourites that you've worked on? The articles on the Siege of Berwick (1333), Battle of Neville's Cross, Battle of Auberoche, or Battle of Bergerac are possibilities, but that's only based on articles that you've already worked on extensively, rather than new ones you might be interested in doing, so it's certainly only a suggestion. T.Shafee(Evo&Evo)talk 00:10, 14 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@Evolution and evolvability: I hope that you will bear with me if I am overquestioning. If I become tiresome, please don't hesitate to say. Is there any reason why you picked those four articles? My preference would be for one of Gascon campaign of 1345, Siege of Aiguillon or Lancaster's chevauchée of 1346; ideally the first or the last. There is very little on any in the literature, so they would hopefully actually add some utility by being more widely published. (My hesitation over Siege of Aiguillon is due to its rather heavy reliance on a single source - Sumption.) Each would need some further work, but not, I think, too much. All three were created in the past seven months; each has been nominated by me for GA, AC, and FA; each achieved FA in the past three months; my "authorship" for two is over 97% and for the third is 89%.
If none of these is suitable then Razing of Friesoythe which I created 15 months ago has been an A class for a while and would need little work to get it ready for FAC. The most serious war crime committed by the Canadian army during WW2, it has had, so far as I can discover, no seperate treatment in the literature. Or currently coming up through ACR is Battle of Cape Ecnomus from 256 BC, it should be a FA before too long. By some accounts the largest naval battle of all time by the number of combatants involved. The only seperate treatment it has received during the past century is this from 1985.
If you feel that one of these might be suitable then I suspect that I may have some follow up questions, but for now I will leave things with you.
Gog the Mild (talk) 22:48, 16 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

The article Chevauchée of Edward III (1346) you nominated as a good article has passed ; see Talk:Chevauchée of Edward III (1346) for comments about the article. Well done! If the article has not already been on the main page as an "In the news" or "Did you know" item, you can nominate it to appear in Did you know. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Sturmvogel 66 -- Sturmvogel 66 (talk) 14:42, 17 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Award deserved

The Writer's Barnstar
Gog, I hereby grant you this award for your efforts in expanding the articles for the Hundred Years' War (1337–1360). Newm30 (talk) 01:21, 18 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@Newm30: Thank you very much. It may be a little immature of me, but I find these tokens of appreciation from other editors very motivating. I now feel inspired to crack on with Battle of Crecy.

And thank you for your contributions to Chevauchée of Edward III (1346), very much a team effort. Don't forget that you are now entitled to a good article infobox  :





PS I hope that you are keeping well(er than when last we communicated).

Gog the Mild (talk) 09:49, 18 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks and yes I am now recovering well after surgery. Appreciation should always be given when deserved. As an editor it is appreciated when we do get awards or a simple thanks for the efforts we put in to improve the knowledge base on Wikipedia. I look forward to your future endeavours. Regards Newm30 (talk) 10:18, 18 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Your edit

Hi
You did an edit on this file I created. How can you change the information I have put there as you don't know what I have used or who has helped me.
Please revert that edit and then please confirm that to me, thanks. --Goran tek-en (talk) 15:26, 18 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Goran tek-en. Reverted. Under "Information from" you had listed User:Newm30 (as well as themaparchive.com) and linked to their user page. I asked them where they had obtained their supplementary information and added it, at the request of an A class reviewer. Gog the Mild (talk) 15:35, 18 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks but you also removed that I used OSM and I got information from Newm30. That was my concern. --Goran tek-en (talk) 17:59, 18 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
@Goran tek-en: Ah. Understood. Relooking at the diff I seem to have made a right Horlicks of things, no wonder you were annoyed. If you look at the thread immediately above this one you will see that I get on well with Newm30, and the last think I would deliberately do is remove a mention of him from a map which he was basically commissioning for my articles.
Please accept my humble apologies for inadvertently winding you up. As this map is a key part of articles which I have so far nominated for four GAs, four A classes and three FAs; and hope to include in six FAs in total, I owe you a lot of thanks and am annoyed with myself that instead I have given you the impression that I am a vandal. I shall be more careful in future. Gog the Mild (talk) 18:31, 18 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks, all is well, we are all humans. So many of you article writers have incredible knowledge of subjects I didn't even knew existed. Creating maps for you guys is great, glad I can help with my part. --Goran tek-en (talk) 18:59, 18 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
@Goran tek-en: Thanks for that, and thanks for the forgiving attitude; appreciated. Gog the Mild (talk) 19:43, 18 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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Trachodon mummy

Dear Gog the Mild, I was wondering if your generous offer to review or copy edit an article of mine still stands? In case you are interested, I just nominated Trachodon mummy at GAN, the plan is to eventually bring it to FAC. I think this is a fun and varied piece! Thanks, --Jens Lallensack (talk) 18:48, 21 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Jens. Of course. A couple of queries:
1. Do you mind if I copy edit it first? I do a fair bit of this for GOCE, including for pre-FA checks, so I do know what I am doing.
2. Do you what me to simply assess this against the GA standards? Or for GA plus pointers for FA? Or, more or less, give it a FA level going over during my GA assessment?
Gog the Mild (talk) 19:37, 21 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Great, thanks! Yes, a copy edit would be more than welcome if you have the time (I am not a native speaker). And well, a FA level going over with GA assessment would for sure be the best – but again, it depends on your time! Thanks again, I really appreciate this. --Jens Lallensack (talk) 19:59, 21 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Jens, no problem. It is actually easier for me to copy edit as I go, rather than flag every minor thing up in writing at GAN. Assessing at a higher standard now will save me time when I go through it again at FAC. Gog the Mild (talk) 20:03, 21 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Sounds great! Looking forward to your improvements/comments. --Jens Lallensack (talk) 20:06, 21 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Having addressed most if not all of your recommendations, and added some new material, I have re-nominated the article. Urselius (talk) 19:56, 24 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@Urselius: Hi, I was going to have a look at this, but note that you have made nearly 100 edits in the 10 days since you nominated it. Once the article stabilises give me a ping, and if I have the time I will look at it. Gog the Mild (talk) 17:19, 3 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]
@Gog the Mild: Hi, I think I have exhausted my sources now. Any further edits will just be minor stylistic tinkerings. Cheers, Urselius (talk) 18:54, 3 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Image reviewing

Good afternoon, Gog. When reviewing an FAC recently (can't recall which) I noticed that you had done the image review. I am short of one for my current FAC, despite a request through the usual channels, and if you are free and disposed to do the review I should be most grateful. Quite understand if not, of course. Tim riley talk 17:03, 25 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@Tim riley: I am usually extremely picky what I image review, and at that frequently give up part way through. My knowledge of both the PD requirements and the wiki-procedures is shaky. That said, I think that I can navigate my way around your FAC. Done. Only one issue. Gog the Mild (talk) 17:22, 25 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
I say! That was quick. Thank you so much! I do the occasional source review but have never tried my hand at image reviewing: too hard for me! I thought that Swedish image looked suspect, but one is always reluctant to blitz images posted by earlier editors. Now gone. Warmest thanks, Tim riley talk 18:06, 25 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

A barnstar for you!

The Original Barnstar
For writing and copyediting Gujarati literature related articles such as Mansukhram Tripathi. Nizil (talk) 17:34, 27 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Nizil, thank you very much, I am honoured. I just do a bit of polishing for the editors who do the hard work, but nevertheless, it always gives me a warm glow when this is appreciated. So please accept my appreciation for your thoughtfulness. Gog the Mild (talk) 20:17, 27 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Your GA nomination of Battle of Crécy

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I humbly ask if you would consider reviewing one of my two GANs? My DYK target date is July 1, and I'd like to have one of the GANs pass before I make the DYK nom. Not that I'm asking you to pass a GAN, but to give it an honest review. No doubt I will need all manner of help to get things ready. (Of the other articles for a six-hook DYK, three have expansions prepped and another I need to assemble.) The GANs are Poutine (food and drink GAN, has been copy edited) and Made in Canada (tv show, has not been copy edited). If you don't have time next week, please let me know and I'll pester someone else. – Reidgreg (talk) 20:31, June 1, 2019 (UTC)

I will make the time. Assessment of Poutine is underway. It sounds like an improved version of one of my favourite treats, although I have not read it properly yet. I am a little hesitant about the other - I normally stay away from anything involving moving pictures, as I don't really have a grasp of the specialist requirements. Gog the Mild (talk) 21:12, 1 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

History of aluminium

Hello:

I've finished my copy edit of the upcoming TFA History of aluminium.

Please let me know if you have any concerns.

Regards,

Twofingered Typist (talk) 14:23, 2 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@Twofingered Typist: Thank you. That is excellent. There was less work needed on the TFAs for this month, but I wanted a quality scrutiny for this one. Which is what it got. Gog the Mild (talk) 16:44, 2 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

May 2019 GOCE drive bling

The (old school) League of Copy Editors Barnstar
This barnstar is awarded to Gog the Mild for copy edits totaling over 30,000 words (including bonus and rollover words) during the GOCE May 2019 Backlog Elimination Drive. Congratulations, and thank you for your contributions! Tdslk (talk) 21:40, 2 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Guild of Copy Editors Leaderboard Award: Long Articles, 2nd Place
This Leaderboard Barnstar is awarded to Gog the Mild for copyediting 4 long articles during the GOCE May 2019 Backlog Elimination Drive. Congratulations, and thank you for your contributions! Tdslk (talk) 21:40, 2 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Guild of Copy Editors Leaderboard Award: Longest Article, 2nd Place
This Leaderboard Barnstar is awarded to Gog the Mild for copyediting one of the five longest articles – 10,858 words – during the GOCE May 2019 Backlog Elimination Drive. Congratulations, and thank you for your contributions! Tdslk (talk) 21:40, 2 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Discussion on your edits

Just to let you know your adding of archived sources is being discussed here. You may want to join us and explain your reasoning. - Ahunt (talk) 12:43, 4 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Burnt Candlemas

G'day Gog. Just wondering if Sumption goes into any detail in relation to the "chevauchée" by Edward III into Scotland, known as Burnt Candlemas in Lothian, Scotland in 1356. This was undertaken after the sacking of Berwick and unsuccessful siege of Berwick Castle by the Scottish in 1355. Edward III demanded that Edward Balliol renounce his right to the Scottish kingship before the chevauchée. Regards Newm30 (talk) 04:36, 5 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Newm30. I noticed that red link on my to do list go blue a few weeks ago. Yes, he does. Would you like me to expand the article? There is also a (very) little in Ormrod's Edward III. Gog the Mild (talk) 16:56, 11 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks Gog, if you could expand Burnt Candlemas article that would be great, as my computer and books are packed up due to house renovations. I was disappointed with move of Chevauchee of Edward III that you are in middle of working on too. I was looking at starting basic level article for 1339 chevauchee, as well as dab article for Edward”s chevauchees. Might bring laptop home from work and have a crack at it tonight. Regards Newm30 (talk) 20:54, 11 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Four Records

Hey Gog, just a reminder when you add new entries to Wikipedia:Four Award/Records to put them in alphabetical order. The last 3 you added weren't in alphabetical order (I moved them to the right spot). Cheers, « Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 22:50, 5 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@Gonzo fan2007: Whoops. Thank you. Will do. Gog the Mild (talk) 08:47, 6 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

DYK for Chevauchée of Edward III

On 9 June 2019, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Chevauchée of Edward III, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that when the English army invaded France in 1346 they burnt a 40-mile-wide (64 km) swath of destruction to within 2 miles (3 km) of Paris? You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Chevauchée of Edward III), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

 — Amakuru (talk) 00:02, 9 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Your GA nomination of Battle of Crécy

The article Battle of Crécy you nominated as a good article has passed ; see Talk:Battle of Crécy for comments about the article. Well done! If the article has not already been on the main page as an "In the news" or "Did you know" item, you can nominate it to appear in Did you know. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Sturmvogel 66 -- Sturmvogel 66 (talk) 14:41, 10 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

This one was really close to a Quarter-Million Award. BTW, and I realize this hasn't come up in the FA review, is there a reason this article doesn't have an In culture section? There must be a number of notable works (literature, poems, films, etc) which use the battle as a setting (though the only one I spotted with an article is Crécy (comics), which I quite liked when I read it some years ago). Perhaps a See also at the end. – Reidgreg (talk) 15:49, 12 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Hi Reidgreg. Yes, it did. I was surprised that it wasn't over. Feel free to give it a few more views.
Popular culture. Well personally I'm, surprisingly, unaware of any works of note which use it significantly. When I picked it up, it had a "Fictional accounts" section, all but reference free, copied below. After this brief exchange on the talk page I removed it. I am not a fan of Pop Cult sections, partly because they too easily become a sprawling rag bag of loosely connected works. I am prepared to be persuaded that this is an exception (as I was with Battle of Neville's Cross), but to my surprise, over the 17 years of its existence, no one has attached a notable work to it. (Obviously, "notable" is a subjective concept.) If you are aware of any, do please suggest them.
I note in passing that in the extract below Shakespeare mangles Crécy and Poitiers, fought 10 years apart, together.
Gog the Mild (talk) 16:27, 12 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Fictional accounts

Crécy village sign.

A fictional portrayal of the Battle of Crécy is included in the Ken Follett novel World Without End. The book describes the battle from an English knight's perspective, that of an archer, and from that of a neutral observer. This novel was made into a telefilm in 2012 and the Battle of Crécy is included, albeit in a very summarized form.

Another depiction can be found in Warren Ellis' and Raulo Caceres' graphic novel Crécy, which frames the battle as a narration by a Suffolk archer; or in Bernard Cornwell's fictional account of an archer in the Hundred Years' War, Harlequin (UK title), part of the Grail Quest novel series, or The Archer's Tale (US title). The lead character Thomas of Hookton, is an English archer who fights in the battle.

The battle appears in "The campaign of 1346, as an historical drama" by Christopher Godmond.

It is also portrayed in Ronald Welch's Bowman of Crécy and in David Gilman's Master of War.

The protagonist of P.C. Doherty's The Death of a King (1985) is present at the battle and describes it from the perspective of a bowman on the right flank near the village of Crécy.

In G. A. Henty's historical fiction book St. George for England, the main character is present at the battles of Cressy and Poitiers.[1]

The battle is a crucial episode in the life of the hero Hugh de Cressi (his name is apparently a coincidence), in the H. Rider Haggard novel Red Eve. The battle is described in some detail, including, for example the failure of the Genoese bowmen, attributed in the book, as above, to wet strings; and also the merciless treatment of the French wounded.[2]

In Michael Jecks 2014 book Fields of Glory, the entire campaign is viewed from the point of view of a vintaine of archers under the command of the non fictional Sir John de Sully commencing with the landing in Normandy and terminating with a detailed description of the eventual final battle at Crecy.[3] It highlights the devastating effects of the chevauchée as the English laid waste to the countryside in an attempt to bring the French army into the field to protect its inhabitants.[citation needed]

The battle features at the climax of another 2014 novel, Son of the Morning, by Mark Barrowcliffe writing as Mark Alder. A fantasy take on the Hundred Years' War, the novel depicts English and French forces as being supported by devils and angels.[4]

The battle is referred to several times – though never seen directly – in Michael Crichton's 1999 science-fiction novel Timeline, in which a group of archaeologists are transported back in time to fourteenth-century France. Crichton gives credit to the English for winning the battle in the face of vastly superior forces, citing the English willingness to adopt a less ceremonial style of battle and instead using what he calls "shock troops" – mercenary archers who were paid a wage for their services, trained on a daily basis much like modern soldiers, and were deadly accurate in their ability to make enemy kills from a distance of what would today be the equivalent of two or more football fields, something that would have been impossible for the French chevaliers with their short-range style of fighting.

In Shakespeare's play Henry V (act II scene IV) the King of France refers to the battle when he warns his noblemen not to underestimate Henry, who is:

...bred out of that bloody strain

That haunted us in our familiar paths:

Witness our too much memorable shame

When Cressy battle fatally was struck,

And all our princes captiv'd by the hand

Of that black name, Edward, Black Prince of Wales;

Whiles that his mountain sire, on mountain standing,

Up in the air, crown'd with the golden sun,

Saw his heroical seed, and smiled to see him,

Mangle the work of nature and deface

The patterns that by God and by French fathers

Had twenty years been made. This is a stem

Of that victorious stock; and let us fear

The native mightiness and fate of him.

References

  1. ^ "Saint George for England". Archived from the original on 4 March 2016. Retrieved 1 August 2014. {{cite web}}: Unknown parameter |dead-url= ignored (|url-status= suggested) (help)
  2. ^ Red Eve. 6 April 2006. Archived from the original on 23 March 2015. Retrieved 29 March 2015. {{cite book}}: |work= ignored (help); Unknown parameter |dead-url= ignored (|url-status= suggested) (help)
  3. ^ "Fields of Glory – Kindle edition by Michael Jecks. Literature & Fiction Kindle eBooks @ Amazon.com".
  4. ^ Orion Books publisher page for Son of the Morning. Archived from the original on 25 April 2016. Retrieved 21 February 2015. {{cite book}}: Unknown parameter |dead-url= ignored (|url-status= suggested) (help)

Request for map request assistance

Hi Goran tek-en. I wonder if you can help me in formatting a request for a map for a FAC properly? (I had the same request up previously, but made such a mess of it that no one at Maps could understand what I was asking for.) The "standard" map[s] for the Battle of Cape Ecnomus is this:

However it is inaccurate. I could describe the changes needed, or the three maps above could be replaced with the three similar ones on this web site.

My problem is that I do not know how to get the first map to show on the map requests page, and so I can't make clear what I would like. I imagine that it is simple once you know how, but I don't. If you could share with me how to do this, I would be grateful.

Gog the Mild (talk) 16:56, 11 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

GOCE June newsletter

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The Bugle: Issue CLVIII, June 2019

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Hi there, Gog. I think it is possible you made some kind of confusion when submiting your latest topic for consideration. So. You created a featured topic proposal, but submitted under "Good Topics" here and then put notices on the articles' talk pages saying it's a good topic candidate. But it was submited as featured, that why the link is red on the talk pages. I would fix it myself, but I didn't want to overstep. Cheers, RetiredDuke (talk) 21:36, 14 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@RetiredDuke: Hi. I am very far from expert at this, so any and all advice is welcome. However, the topic, while down as {{Wikipedia:Featured topic candidates/Chevauchée of Edward III of 1346 /archive1}} is exactly the same as all other GTCs. So I am stumped. I would be grateful if you could fix it and point me towards the diff, so that I will know for next time. Thanks. Gog the Mild (talk) 18:24, 17 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Hey; I'm also not knowledgeable about WP Topics, I think I just stumbled across a small inconsistency in the template in that it doesn't link directly to the nomination when said nomination is occurring. I thought you might had made a small mistake but now I see that when the topic is promoted as featured the delegate eventually solves the issue, archiving the discussion in the process. Sorry to bother you with the issue, I was just curious. Good luck with the nomination, it's some impressive work. RetiredDuke (talk) 20:39, 17 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]
@RetiredDuke: Thanks. And while checking everything I did discover that I had missed tagging the main GT article, so it was as well you had me checking things; so thanks for that too. Gog the Mild (talk) 20:54, 17 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

DYK for Siege of Calais (1346–1347)

On 15 June 2019, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Siege of Calais (1346–1347), which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that the largest English army to serve overseas prior to 1600 was gathered at the Siege of Calais in 1347? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Siege of Calais (1346–1347). You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Siege of Calais (1346–1347)), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

 — Amakuru (talk) 00:02, 15 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Could you help with archiving?

I was wondering if you could run your archiving bot on the Kingston Fossil Plant coal fly ash slurry spill article. I'm currently reviewing it for GAN and a large percentage of links have unfortunately died, making it difficult to assess them. Thanks! Femke Nijsse (talk) 08:52, 17 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Femke Nijsse. The bot seems to be down. As soon as it is working again I will do that. Gog the Mild (talk) 10:50, 17 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Okay, thanks :). Femke Nijsse (talk) 11:00, 17 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]
I see you so far managed to rescue one dead link (which has been undone after a subsequent copyright violation reversal :( ). Most of the Knoxville News Sentinel sources point get redirected towards the home page for me. Do you know whether it's possible to get archived pages for those? Femke Nijsse (talk) 13:56, 18 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Femke Nijsse The bot has finally, finally been debugged and I have turned it loose on your article. Has it done what you wanted it to? Gog the Mild (talk) 23:49, 20 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
That will be enough for a proper review if the article is renominated, thanks :). If you feel like improving it further: the bot indicated that many links are not dead, while they in fact are (leading to main page of news website). This is for instance the case with citation 9. Citation 8 has not been archived, but is tagged with dead-link tag. Femke Nijsse (talk) 06:33, 21 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Hi Femke Nijsse So far as I can see, all of the cites are now backed up, except for 8, 41 and 43, which are correctly tagged as dead. Unfortunately there is a lot that I can do about them - my skill set is limited in this respect. They are probably still in the Tennessean or AP somewhere. If you do find them and relink them, ping me straight away and I'll back them up now that the bot is working. Gog the Mild (talk) 14:25, 22 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Siege of Berwick (1333) scheduled for TFA

This is to let you know that the Siege of Berwick (1333) article has been scheduled as today's featured article for July 20, 2019. Please check the article needs no amendments. If you're interested in editing the main page text, you're welcome to do so at Wikipedia:Today's featured article/July 20, 2019, but note that a coordinator will trim the lead to around 1000 characters anyway, so you aren't obliged to do so.

We also suggest that you watchlist Wikipedia:Main Page/Errors up to the day of this TFA.

I'm unlikely to run your Caen TFARP for 26 July this time. Although we have recently relaxed the rules to allow two TFAs in a month by the same FA nominator, they need to be on unrelated topics, such as a bird and a constellation (to give a recent example). Two medieval battles in a week is too much, cheers Jimfbleak - talk to me? 10:57, 18 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Jimfbleak Thanks for that. I will run an eye over it, although I have unofficial responsibility to check all TFAs copy edit-wise.
I hadn't realised that it was even theoretically possible to have too many medieval battles. Ah well. Gog the Mild (talk) 12:09, 18 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you for the "examination of a siege which led to a catastrophe for Scottish arms and England becoming once again embroiled in the running sore of the Scottish wars"! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:12, 20 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Editor of the Week

Editor of the Week
Your ongoing efforts to improve the encyclopedia have not gone unnoticed: You have been selected as Editor of the Week in recognition of your great contributions! (courtesy of the Wikipedia Editor Retention Project)
The elusive & bashful WikiGnome
Gog the Mild
 
Editor of the Week
for the week beginning June 23, 2019
Guild of Copy Editors member, a WikiGnome, and a WikiProject Military History member. 55% of 20.000 edits are to mainspace. Kind and cooperative cohort that gives proper feedback. Outstanding maintenance work and copy editing.
Recognized for
keeping Wikipedia neat and tidy by rescuing sources and tagging dead links
Notable work(s)
Chevauchée of Edward III (1346), Gascon campaign of 1345, Siege of Aiguillon, Siege of Berwick (1333)
Submit a nomination

User:Buster7 submitted the following nomination for Editor of the Week:

Gog the Mild displays his multi-faceted nature as a Guild of Copy Editors member, a WikiGnome, and a WikiProject Military History member. He has been a Wikipedian for 5 years and one month but most recently has accelerated his editing activity (JAN2018). 55% of his 20.000 edits are to mainspace. Gog is considered by many as a kind and cooperative cohort that gives proper feedback. His many GA's, FA's and DYK's display "outstanding" maintenance work and copy editing (See Chevauchée of Edward III (1346) (GA), Gascon campaign of 1345 (FA), Battle of Bergerac (FA) or Siege of Berwick (1333) (FA). In his effort "...to keep Wikipedia neat and tidy" Gog often rescues sources and tags dead links within Wikipedia articles. He considers himself a blunt talker but only so that he can "move on" to the next task.

You can copy the following text to your user page to display a user box proclaiming your selection as Editor of the Week:

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Thanks again for your efforts! ―Buster7  19:24, 22 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Well deserved! Congrats! – Reidgreg (talk) 20:07, 22 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

As much as I appreciate the extra vote, I saw you accidentally voted twice on Wikipedia:Featured topic candidates/Mercury Seven/archive1. You may want to remove the most recent one. Thanks! Kees08 (Talk) 23:43, 23 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

June 2019 blitz bling!

The Working Wikipedian's Barnstar
This barnstar is awarded to Gog the Mild for copy edits totaling over 4,000 words (including rollover words) during the GOCE June 2019 Copy Editing Blitz. Congratulations, and thank you for your contributions! Reidgreg (talk) 00:19, 25 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for your work in the blitz, and thanks also for voting in the elections! – Reidgreg (talk) 00:19, 25 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Chevauchée of the Black Prince in 1355

Hi Gog and thanks for creating the article. It has been on my interest list. I was reading online that the chevauchée was led through the lands of John I, Count of Armagnac, during initial part, as he had reverted allegiance back to France. Does Sumption mention this? Juillac was hard to find initially but will need to look at former province further. Anyway will await your expansion and I will always fill red links if I can. Regards Newm30 (talk) 12:51, 26 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Newm30. Yes, the raid initially headed straight for Armagnac and "Burned a broad path across the province". As ever, it is more complicated, and John's role will feature greatly in the prelude when I get round to writing out the article properly - hopefully in the next week or so. He was, of course, the main French commander in the region. Your red link filling is much appreciated. Gog the Mild (talk) 21:37, 26 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Hi Newm30. Most of the body of the article is going to be replaced as I remove material from the 130 year old source, so it would make sense for you not to do too much work on it just yet. Gog the Mild (talk) 11:02, 30 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks Gog. Was just linking a few things. Look forward to your rewrite. Regards Newm30 (talk) 11:10, 30 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Gog, was wondering if Scottish raids in 1355, battle of Nesbit Moor, sacking of Berwick and Burnt Candlemas could be written into prelude? Regards Newm30 (talk) 17:48, 3 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@Newm30: Definitely not, IMO. They are separate articles and had little to do with and little effect on what happened in the south of France. Feel free to differ, but I don't see how the Scottish border raids had anything to do with what the Black Prince was up to. He didn't even know about them. Gog the Mild (talk) 17:52, 3 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
It probably all belongs in Burnt Candlemas. Gog the Mild (talk) 17:55, 3 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
I was thinking of whether the above should be added because of the following section in prelude The French hoped to distract Edward with an attack from Scotland and, despite being chronically short of money, spent a large amount encouraging the Scottish nobles. The English allocated only a modest force to guard their northern border, and much of this was withdrawn after a truce was agreed in September? The raids, battle, sacking and Edward II’s response may tie in here, but will leave it up to you. Maybe an article on Edward III’s chevauchée in Picardy in 1355 could be the place for it? Regards Newm30 (talk) 18:07, 3 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
I was thinking that it all belonged in your Burnt Candlemas, but let's see. Sometimes as you research an article links come out you hadn't expected, and vice versa. Gog the Mild (talk) 18:54, 3 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
@Newm30: Hi, I think that this article could do with a map. There are few on the net and no good ones. You seem to be the expert at commissioning maps, and I wonder if you might be able to commission one for this article?
The best would be Sumption's. (PS I am listening to a podcast of his Reith Lectures while I write this - very interesting.) It would need a little tweaking, but I could scan and email it to you. Or the map from page viii of this could be tweaked. Anything you could do to help this would be much appreciated. Gog the Mild (talk) 11:35, 6 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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18th Infantry Division

Following up on the 18th Div article. Two editors went over the article and made quite a few changes. In your opinion, is it now ready to meet FAC 1a, or would you suggest additional work?EnigmaMcmxc (talk) 17:21, 30 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Hi EnigmaMcmxc. I really want to be sympathetic to this. You are asking for about 90 minutes of my time. I am, or was, prepared to give it. When I commented on this article's last FAC I made 12 suggestions regarding the lead. Only two of them have been addressed. A couple may be debatable, but others, while you may (or may not) consider them picky, seem to me to be areas where changes need to be made. Given that changes haven't been made where I have flagged up precisely what my concerns are, what incentive can you provide for me to invest a further 80 minutes hoping that the rest is better? (Apologies if this seems blunt; you may wish to refer to the second paragraph of my user page.) Gog the Mild (talk) 18:13, 30 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Blunt is perfectly fine. You heavily recommended a GOCE work over the article with FAC 1a in mind. This was requested. Afterwards, a GOCE editor did so (another editor also made changes). Per your comments at review, I left the issue of prose to the copyeditor. Based off the above, you feel that specific issues were not addressed by the GOCE. With that in mind, I have revisited the article and made changes to the lede as you specified at review. It is not about being picky or not, my only purpose is to create a informative article for the readers.EnigmaMcmxc (talk) 20:03, 30 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]
@EnigmaMcmxc: I try to be solicitous of people's potential feelings. You have clearly put an enormous amount of work into this and I don't know if you have skin like a rhino or are a delicate blossom. I haven't reread the lead; I am happy to take your word. Yes, IMO the article is in an appropriate state to go for FAC in terms of 1a. I don't mean that that there are not areas for improvement - although there are precious few pieces of English that pass that! - but that it now reads pretty well, and that many of the issues are on military terminology or technical areas. Broadly it looks pretty good. Best of luck. Gog the Mild (talk) 20:54, 30 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you for your time and thoughts. I shall re-nominate, and see where things go.EnigmaMcmxc (talk) 21:08, 30 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

WikiCup 2019 July newsletter

The third round of the 2019 WikiCup has now come to an end. The 16 users who made it to the fourth round needed to score at least 68 points, which is substantially lower than last year's 227 points. Our top scorers in round 3 were:

  • Norfolk Island Cas Liber, our winner in 2016, with 500 points derived mainly from a featured article and two GAs on natural history topics
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Nudge

G'day Gog, just a nudge that you can nominate Battle of Blanchetaque for TFA now as noms are open for August. Peacemaker67 (click to talk to me) 08:31, 3 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Congratulations from the Military History Project

The WikiChevrons
On behalf of the Military History Project, I am proud to present the WikiChevrons for participating in 52 reviews between April and June 2019 Peacemaker67 (talk) via MilHistBot (talk) 03:07, 4 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Indeed, congratulations for your WikiChevrons. Thank you for your help in 52 reviews between those months and thank you for making Wikipedia a better place. Cheers. CPA-5 (talk) 15:55, 4 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Why thank you CPA-5, I appreciate that. And thank you for your 64 reviews. I knew that you did a lot of reviews, but I didn't realise that you were that busy. That is very impressive, and I for one certainly appreciate your insightful and, yes, eagle eyed reviews. Gog the Mild (talk) 23:30, 5 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Well, I couldn't believe that after I got my WikiChevrons. PM has 80 reviews so I guess I'm doing fine in those reviews in the last few months. Cheers. CPA-5 (talk) 15:50, 6 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Are these numbers right? Because I thought I was granted more reviews than I thought I performed as well. Wonder if it is counting number of signatures total instead of number of reviews with your signatures? That would match closer to the number I received. Kees08 (Talk) 18:54, 6 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@Kees08: I am pretty sure that it counts the number of articles where you leave a signature, not those that you do a full review at. So it includes "drive by comments". For more see comments at end of Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Military history/Awards#Quarterly reviewing awards; you may want to add a comment. That said, I keep a separate tally of mine (here) and the MilHist tally seems about right. Gog the Mild (talk) 19:10, 6 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Ah, for some reason I thought this was for A-class reviews only. The numbers make more sense now. Kees08 (Talk) 19:15, 6 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
The entry requirement is that you have assessed one ACR which was closed during the period. Once that is met, all MilHist article reviews are counted. Gog the Mild (talk) 19:41, 6 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Article preparation

A couple of people have been working on articles that will be featured on the main page during the 50th anniversary of the Apollo 11 mission. I was wondering if you would be interested in looking at the articles sometime between now and then (couple weeks from now) for copy editing and to see if there are any glaring problems. Trying to minimize the number of complaints, since a couple of complaints on a few articles would add up to a lot on one day. Let me know and I can give you a list; I am doing one last check of the easier ones myself right now. Kees08 (Talk) 18:57, 6 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@Kees08: Sure. Could you do me a favour and post one of them - maybe the longest, or the trickiest - on the GOCE request page and ping me here. It is GoCE drive month, and that way I get brownie points for doing my bit for GoCE. Gog the Mild (talk) 19:06, 6 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Sure. I can post two requests at a time right? I can request two if that works better. Kees08 (Talk) 19:09, 6 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
No. You're allowed to post two, but I am only allowed to pick up one at a time. If you want me to work on them, only post one at a time; if you are happy with any GoCE review, then by all means post two. Gog the Mild (talk) 19:13, 6 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Doesn't matter to me who picks it up; I doubt anyone would grab anything that low in the queue anyways. I am finalizing another article I will post there. If you need any of the offline sources for Felicette let me know. Kees08 (Talk) 19:48, 6 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Hi Kees08, Félicette completed. Let me know what you think. Gog the Mild (talk) 14:04, 7 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Wow, that was a lot of work! I think you found every sentence I hated. I made one minor change, and other than that it looks great. If you end up taking Zond 5 on, I think it will be more work. I read through it and was a little disappointed. I think it is choppy and is missing some gaps that help bridge events. I was hoping someone not familiar with the event could let me know if I need to spend a lot more time on it. No worries if you don't work on it though. Thanks for the Félicette edit, hope you found it interesting! Kees08 (Talk) 16:25, 7 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Kees08, fascinating. I have finished a first run through Zond 5. Obviously, feel free to revert or query anything I have got wrong or which you don't understand. There are some queries on the articles talk page. If you could respond to them I will have a second, more detailed, run through. Gog the Mild (talk) 20:24, 7 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Interested in copy editing more articles? I have enough lined up for the main page in the next week I doubt you could get to them all, but would appreciate any that you have time for! Kees08 (Talk) 16:42, 14 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
To be more specific, these articles will be on the main page during the anniversary of the Apollo 11 flight: Maspalomas Station, Roger B. Chaffee, NASA Astronaut Group 2, NASA Astronaut Group 3, Michael Collins, Sputnik 1, Felicette, Luna 2, Mae Jemison, Valentina Tereshkova, Yuri Gagarin, David Scott, Zond 5, Charles Bassett, SOLRAD 2, Tundra orbit, Neil Armstrong, Buzz Aldrin, Apollo 11, Parkes Observatory, Mary Jackson, and Margaret Hamilton. Of those, David Scott, Michael Collins, Neil Armstrong, Buzz Aldrin, Roger B. Chaffee, and Apollo 11 are featured articles so should be in decent shape. Yuri Gagarin has an ongoing A-class review, NASA Astronaut Group 2 and NASA Astronaut Group 3 have open GA nominations if you want to contribute by reviewing. If you are interested in copy editing more I can request them at GOCE. Thanks for your help so far, and if you do not have time no worries! Kees08 (Talk) 17:24, 14 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

59th (Staffordshire) Infantry Division‎

Hello Gog:

I notice you have a working tag beside 59th (Staffordshire) Infantry Division as well as more recently Zond 5. Is 59th (Staffordshire) Infantry Division‎ completed and ready for archiving?

Thanks,

Twofingered Typist (talk) 12:18, 8 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@Twofingered Typist: Apologies. I wanted to have a last skim of the notes of 59th (Staffordshire) Infantry Division before signing off on it, but for some reason included it as completed in my article list, and then lost track of it when the request in the thread above came in. Thank you for prompting me to wrap it up - it did need a couple of further tweaks - and I am glad that someone is keeping a proper track of things.
As it happens, Zond 5 is also now complete, and so marked on the requests page - just flagging this up here for clarity. Gog the Mild (talk) 13:03, 8 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
@Gog the Mild: No worries, thanks for the clarification. Cheers Twofingered Typist (talk) 17:54, 8 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Hi there, I'm pleased to inform you that I've begun reviewing the article Black Prince's chevauchée of 1355 you nominated for GA-status according to the criteria. This process may take up to 7 days. Feel free to contact me with any questions or comments you might have during this period. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Sturmvogel 66 -- Sturmvogel 66 (talk) 20:42, 11 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Books & Bytes Issue 34, May – June 2019

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Question

In approximately six weeks, we will open nominations for the Military history WikiProject coordinator elections. Have you given any consideration to running? You'd make a good coordinator, I think, and Lord knows we could use some new blood in the team. Think it over, and if you have any questions you can ask me or check out Wikipedia:WikiProject Military history/Academy/Becoming a coordinator. Sincerely, TomStar81 (Talk) 07:43, 14 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

(talk page stalker) I second that. Peacemaker67 (click to talk to me) 09:14, 14 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Thirded by another talk page stalker - I've been meaning to suggest you consider a crack at it. Cheers, Zawed (talk) 10:17, 14 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
@TomStar81: No; thank you (nicely qualified ); I shall. @Peacemaker67 and Zawed: The encouragement is appreciated. Gog the Mild (talk) 14:58, 14 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

The Bugle: Issue CLIX, July 2019

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The article Black Prince's chevauchée of 1355 you nominated as a good article has passed ; see Talk:Black Prince's chevauchée of 1355 for comments about the article. Well done! If the article has not already been on the main page as an "In the news" or "Did you know" item, you can nominate it to appear in Did you know. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Sturmvogel 66 -- Sturmvogel 66 (talk) 19:22, 17 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

DYK nomination of Black Prince's chevauchée of 1355

Hello! Your submission of Black Prince's chevauchée of 1355 at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and some issues with it may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! Constantine 19:40, 20 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Review and roll back

Hi Gog, can you review edits to Alexander Seton (died 1332) on 23 July by 31.48.73.180 and rollback if you think it’s warranted? Newm30 (talk) 04:08, 24 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Newm30. I have made some changes and added some sources. Likewise to Battle of Kinghorn. Gog the Mild (talk) 16:21, 24 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you. Newm30 (talk) 22:28, 24 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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@Serial Number 54129: Exceedingly useful. I only have half a dozen of those, so that is going to keep me out of trouble for a while. What an unexpected pleasure. Many thanks. Gog the Mild (talk) 12:49, 26 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Battle of Blanchetaque scheduled for TFA

This is to let you know that Battle of Blanchetaque has been scheduled as WP:TFA for 24 August 2019. Please check that the article needs no amendments. If you're interested in editing the main page text, you're welcome to do so at Wikipedia:Today's featured article/August 24, 2019. Thanks! Ealdgyth - Talk 16:34, 28 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]