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:As an aesthetic/practical question, [[Template talk:Infobox artist#Activate signature parameter]] further up the talk page. There's been no consensus for its addition. [[User:For (;;)|for (;;)]] [[User talk:For (;;)|(talk)]] 07:48, 13 June 2016 (UTC) |
:As an aesthetic/practical question, [[Template talk:Infobox artist#Activate signature parameter]] further up the talk page. There's been no consensus for its addition. [[User:For (;;)|for (;;)]] [[User talk:For (;;)|(talk)]] 07:48, 13 June 2016 (UTC) |
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*I '''strongly support''' inclusion of <code>signature</code> parameter. I have been working on cartoonist and illustrator articles, whose signatures are almost as iconic as their artwork. Despite claims of no consensus, there has actually been surprisingly little discussion (see [Template_talk:Infobox_artist/Archive_1#Signature 2009], [Template_talk:Infobox_artist/Archive_2#Signature_Parameter 2010], [Archive_5#Template-protected_edit_request_on_22_October_2014 2014]). The arguments against seem to be that artists may have more than one signature, that it is not relevant to their work, and/or it looks amateurish. I would counter that it should be an ''option'', not a requirement, and the inclusion of signature fields on {{infobox person}} and {{Infobox comics creator}} attests to its utility. Including a verified signature from a visual artist can help in identifying their works (probably more important for less famous artists). The fact that signatures can vary over time matters no less than that people themselves vary over time: just as in infobox portraits, it should be up to editorial discretion to select the best representative signature, and discuss any significant variation in the article. The last "debate" consisted of 2 supports and 1 oppose, so I think more input is needed. [[User:Animalparty|--Animalparty!]] ([[User talk:Animalparty|talk]]) 04:59, 22 March 2017 (UTC) |
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influenced_by and influenced
Is it possible to add influenced_by and influenced to the template (it calls infobox person which doesnt have theese)?— Preceding unsigned comment added by Christian75 (talk • contribs) 15:33, August 17, 2015 (UTC)
- It used to be there and was removed and rightly so. Like "years active", it's a parameter that creates problems of emphasis and false precision, depending on how "active" and "influenced" are understood. Ewulp (talk) 01:04, 18 August 2015 (UTC)
RfC announce: Religion in infoboxes
There is an RfC at Template talk:Infobox#RfC: Religion in infoboxes concerning what should be allowed in the religion entry in infoboxes. Please join the discussion and help us to arrive at a consensus on this issue. --Guy Macon (talk) 17:36, 4 January 2016 (UTC)
Activate signature parameter
Please activate the signature parameter. The discussion above from 22 October 2014 is about a close to consensus as Wikipedia is likely to get. If anyone wants to remove the signature parameter then that should be discussed at Template talk:Infobox person, not here, as that is where the parameter is implemented. Justlettersandnumbers (talk) 13:04, 1 March 2016 (UTC)
Not done: Sorry. The template has not supported a signature since 2009. I would want to see a stronger consensus before changing the status quo. And it is quite reasonable that a parameter exists on the parent template, which local consensus determines is not appropriate for this particular infobox. — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 14:28, 1 March 2016 (UTC)
Error message and tracking category for unsupported parameters
I have added error tracking for unsupported parameters to this template. See Category:Pages using infobox artist with unknown parameters. A red error message appears when you Preview the article, between the edit screen and the rendered preview. In the category, the articles are sorted by the name of the parameter that is unsupported.
It appears that the vast majority of unsupported parameters are |bgcolor= / |bgcolour=, |influenced=, and |influenced_by=. If these are not wanted, you might want to file a bot request to remove them.
If I have made any mistakes in coding, or if template changes are desired, please let me know. – Jonesey95 (talk) 14:50, 23 May 2016 (UTC)
Signature
Hi, I was wondering why the signature does not show in the infobox.
Lotje (talk) 06:15, 13 June 2016 (UTC)
- As a technical question, because the template has no signature parameter.
- As an aesthetic/practical question, Template talk:Infobox artist#Activate signature parameter further up the talk page. There's been no consensus for its addition. for (;;) (talk) 07:48, 13 June 2016 (UTC)
- I strongly support inclusion of
signatureparameter. I have been working on cartoonist and illustrator articles, whose signatures are almost as iconic as their artwork. Despite claims of no consensus, there has actually been surprisingly little discussion (see [Template_talk:Infobox_artist/Archive_1#Signature 2009], [Template_talk:Infobox_artist/Archive_2#Signature_Parameter 2010], [Archive_5#Template-protected_edit_request_on_22_October_2014 2014]). The arguments against seem to be that artists may have more than one signature, that it is not relevant to their work, and/or it looks amateurish. I would counter that it should be an option, not a requirement, and the inclusion of signature fields on
andInfobox artist
attests to its utility. Including a verified signature from a visual artist can help in identifying their works (probably more important for less famous artists). The fact that signatures can vary over time matters no less than that people themselves vary over time: just as in infobox portraits, it should be up to editorial discretion to select the best representative signature, and discuss any significant variation in the article. The last "debate" consisted of 2 supports and 1 oppose, so I think more input is needed. --Animalparty! (talk) 04:59, 22 March 2017 (UTC)Infobox artist
Other names
I think it would be helpful to include an "other_names" parameter, as in Template:Infobox person. It's not unusual for artists to produce work under more than one name, such as for branding purposes, or to obfuscate their identity when working for competitors, or to separate high-art from low-art work. For example, I had to use the "person" template instead to get this functionality on Oli Frey. -Jason A. Quest (talk) 16:19, 9 February 2017 (UTC)
