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This page should not be speedily deleted because... (your reason here) --Vikkibaumler (talk) 19:43, 13 November 2016 (UTC) I will remove the citation to the NY Times article --but thought I was supposed to include it.[reply]

Secondly - this walk will be a historical event that should be captured on Wikipedia for historical reasons.I can remove the Facebook links if that's considered promotional.

How do I go about making those edits? Struggling to figure that out.

vikki Vikkibaumler (talk) 19:49, 13 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

This page should not be speedily deleted because... (your reason here) --Vikkibaumler (talk) 20:00, 13 November 2016 (UTC) I removed the reference to the NY Times article (which I thought was only a citation) and removed the links to the Facebook event pages -which may have appeared to be promotional. I left the content simply recording what is to be an historic march in political history that deserves a page in Wikipedia for historical purposes.[reply]

VikkiVikkibaumler (talk) 20:00, 13 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

@Vikkibaumler: The problem is that you have copied word for word an entire paragraph from the NY Times article that was previously linked to. Furthermore, this article contains negative WP:BLP material against Donald Trump without sourcing from reliable third-party sources. Also, there is the problem of Wikipedia is not a crystal ball, because this event hasn't happened yet. The WP:CSD nomination only has to do with the first concern though. With the removal of the promotional Facebook links, the promotional issue isn't really there anymore. I would suggest that you, as a new editor, take a look at some of Wikipedia's policies and guidelines, so that you better understand the concerns that I am expressing here. Thanks, Gluons12 ^☢|☕ 20:18, 13 November 2016 (UTC).[reply]

OK, I've lost control of this article. While updating some of the details and logistics about the upcoming Women's March, the user Gandydancer didn't forget to load up the page with political propaganda. --Jbfair728 (talk) 21:26, 27 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

I don't understand...please explain. Gandydancer (talk) 22:57, 27 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

I have removed the tag since I have no idea just what changes the editor expected. Gandydancer (talk) 16:40, 28 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Reporting from New York Times, The Guaurdian, Washington Post, and the group statement have been added to make it a reported article and NOT an essay. These edits should not be removed as they are authoritative and reporting.

Article should now be fine. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Evergreensummer (talk • contribs) 15:42, 28 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

I have removed this info:

"Trump has praised Planned Parenthood for providing birth control and paths to breast cancer screenings," the Washington Post reported. "But, he said, it should receive no federal dollars.'We're not going to allow, and we're not going to fund, as long as you have the abortion going on at Planned Parenthood,' Trump said. 'We understand that, and I've said it loud and clear.'"

"Trump told reporters he was pro-choice for years before changing his stance. His view on abortion now, based on recent interviews: The procedure should be provided only in cases of rape, incest and life-threatening pregnancies.That’s where Trump’s Planned Parenthood message hits a logical snare," the Washington Post reported. "Under federal law, not a penny of government money can be used to cover abortion — except in cases of rape, incest and life-threatening pregnancies. Planned Parenthood says it complies with that rule. It receives about $500 million annually from the government and would likely enter dire financial straits if that money dried up. Beyond birth control, the clinics also offer STD testing and treatment, sex education and preventative health care — the services Trump says he applauds."[16]

This article should be mainly about the march, not the abortion issue which this goes into a little too much for this article IMO. Gandydancer (talk) 16:38, 28 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

I am returning the Commentary section since it is quite the norm to include. See for example the Reactions section of the Dakota Access Pipeline protests article. On the other hand, to include the lengthy quote from the march website is unusual and perhaps should be deleted or adjusted. Thoughts? Gandydancer (talk) 17:08, 28 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

This last edit looks good. It had news, facts, and clarifications. This *is* a political event and so the commentary is important. Looks good. Last edit good. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Evergreensummer (talk • contribs) 00:49, 29 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

I added author names to the news articles. In footnote 14, I was unable to fix the Guardian code problem, defined multiple times, etc. Can someone fix that? Other needed fixes: footnotes 10 and 15 are the same WaPo article. And footnotes 13 and 16 are the same Guardian article.Bjhillis (talk) 04:18, 29 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

I cleaned up the footnotes, fixed coding errors and formatting.Bjhillis (talk) 20:06, 29 December 2016 (UTC)][reply]

Added more news cites, cleaned up footnote coding, updated Facebook rsvp's. The page is functional now, and is ready for its founders to re-emerge and shepherd it. Hello @Jbfair728: and @Evergreensummer: and @Vikkibaumler:?Bjhillis (talk) 23:56, 30 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

On the Wiki warning: "This article relies too much on references to primary sources"; 13 of 16 footnotes are to secondary sources, so the call out seems misplaced.Bjhillis (talk) 00:54, 3 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Does the first sentence under "Organizers" repeat the info in the 2nd para under "Background" Phrasing edit needed?Bjhillis (talk) 04:06, 4 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I think that this article looks pretty darn good. I've asked Wukai to do a copy edit and I'm going to ask Montana if she thinks it would make a good DYK article. Gandydancer (talk) 22:55, 13 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Anyone? Anna Frodesiak (talk) 06:35, 16 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Well I'm just crocheting away like crazy Anna. Maybe I can get my daughter Jane to model it tomorrow if I finish. So anyway I'm working on it. We'll all be going to Augusta, Maine for our state march. So nice to hear from you! Gandydancer (talk) 06:47, 16 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, dear! Well done! I hope it turns out well! Crocheting is fast, especially with thick yarn, so I'm sure it won't take long. So, is a photo upload coming? I'm sure it will be lovely! :) And Augusta! I've been there. Being a Montrealer, Maine was a great place to freeze your feet off in the mid-summer ocean. :) Good on ya going to the march. You are vital! Be seen. Could you be another Medea? I hope so! :) Anna Frodesiak (talk) 06:54, 16 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Added image. Now that is what happens when editing gets in the way of your crocheting. :) Don't stop though. I want to see that hat! :) Anna Frodesiak (talk) 07:02, 16 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Well that is a good thing Anna. Interesting, in between my furious crocheting, I spoke with my daughter Jane and she has mixed feelings about the pussyhats. But not to worry as she said "I'll bet Ken (her husband) would wear one, and Helena (her daughter) too...". So I made three. We'll see... Hopefully I will be able to get a few photos on Saturday.  :) Gandydancer (talk) 18:02, 19 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I'm working on a draft article about the satellite event in Portland, Oregon. We'll see if a standalone article in the main space will be possible, based on coverage of the event, but folks are welcome to contribute to the draft for the time being, if interested. ---Another Believer _(Talk) 00:13, 18 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Not sure about the new Controversy section at the bottom. First tendency is to tone down the word "outrage" as inexpressive. But having read the source, it may be better to let someone re-write the entire paragraph. Excluding Hillary is worth mentioning, but topic needs wordsmithing.Bjhillis (talk) 12:11, 20 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not sure either. A Google search brings up next to nothing so it could be considered not newsworthy, I guess. I'd guess that today will bring a swift reaction. Wait and see? Gandydancer (talk) 14:36, 20 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

The Portland march had a similar conflict among organizers over who was included, so the underlying subject of conflicts within the ranks of the march organizers, or between the organizers and some participants, is a worthy subject, but I don't have a handle yet on how to summarize it.Bjhillis (talk) 18:45, 20 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

The conflict is basically between Bernie supporters, who constitute the leadership in the march on DC, and Hillary supporters, who feel snubbed by the March using Hillary's speech as a rallying cry without listing her in the group of leaders to honour or even attributing it to her. I'm not sure if any articles on the connection has propped up yet though. Rmdsc (talk) 20:26, 20 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

The section was just re-organized under "Participants," and that works, no need to pursue it further. The Adelman op-ed in the NY Times touches on the Hillary-Bernie issue.Bjhillis (talk) 20:42, 20 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

"Honoree List Controversy" is a better title. Still not sure "outrage" fits. And we're missing elements of the conflict within the so-called women's movement: (1) Progressive left vs. Hillary Clinton, essentially a tug-of-war over the best strategy for the Democratic party; (2) Racial conflicts, see, e.g., Portland march controversy; and (3) Gender conflicts, e.g., men's role in the march. No need to cover everything under the sun here, but just noting this potentially is about more than a snub to Hillary. Bjhillis (talk) 20:18, 20 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Another aside: I do know that Dolores Huerta is a very strong Hillary supporter and I'd guess that she is not too happy... Gandydancer (talk) 20:48, 20 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

It's been a day and this info has not been picked up by reliable sources. I agree with the editor that removed it. Gandydancer (talk) 07:05, 21 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

How is Fortune, TIME, or New York Times not a reliable source? If you still take issue with specific statements mark it for citations needed, stop trying to delete the whole section without discussion. Rmdsc (talk) 09:21, 21 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I think at this point it's WP:UNDUE. If anything more comes out of it then maybe.Volunteer Marek (talk) 09:52, 21 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Conflict between elements of the march organizers and the movement is noteworthy, and was covered by the cites. No need to dwell on it but it was a valid topic to include. Maybe we hadn't articulated the issues with sufficient clarity.Bjhillis (talk) 12:44, 21 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I don't think anyone was saying it shouldn't be covered, I think the issue was without wide-spread coverage, it's placing undue influence on a few sources. There may be more coverage now regarding Hillary, I don't know. But if it's added, I think that there should also be mention of why she might not have been publicly invited. I have heard (on the news or one of the online news articles) that it's due to optics - i.e., the awkward position it puts her in as a former first-lady and candidate for the office, who in both cases are expected to support a smooth transition of power.—CaroleHenson (talk) 13:38, 21 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I don't see anything that summarizes that this is occurring in other countries and in sister marches around the country. So, I thought I'd take a crack at starting International women's marches, January 21, 2017.

Am I missing an article? Is there a better title?—CaroleHenson (talk) 18:07, 21 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

That's a good idea, I've created the disambiguation page Women's March for now. Sam Walton (talk) 18:26, 21 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

At what point would included other marches in different cities/countries in this article? -- LuK3 (Talk) 18:28, 21 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Shouldn't that info be added here? I added a sentence on the Chicago turnout. – Muboshgu (talk) 18:34, 21 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I might work on worldwide/countrywide protests if time permit. -- LuK3 (Talk) 18:36, 21 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Okay, I'll be back in a bit and can chip in, too.—CaroleHenson (talk) 19:04, 21 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I've added an image of the sister march I attended as a stopgap until we have an image of a bigger and/or more prominent global march. Feel free to replace it when we have a better one. Sam Walton (talk) 19:03, 21 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I just found 36 free images to use. They're here. APK whisper in my ear 19:30, 21 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Recommend we add one on those great pics to the pussy hat section.Bjhillis (talk) 23:14, 21 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

@Bjhillis: It's a great picture, but I think the current pussy hat image is better (because it shows the hat more closely) and the section is currently far too small to have two images. Sam Walton (talk) 23:47, 21 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

The expansion of the article to mention all marches looks great. Anyone want to take a stab at estimating worldwide attendance at all the marches? Put in the opening para something like, "Altogether, more than one million women joined the Wash DC, U.S. regional and international protests..."Bjhillis (talk) 23:44, 21 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

"millions" seems to be the best we can do for an overall number right now unfortunately. I'm sure by tomorrow a news org will do a roundup and get a better sense of the numbers. Sam Walton (talk) 23:46, 21 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

"estimates have ranged from 2 million to 3 million." ^Falling_Gravity 00:47, 22 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Once the numbers are fully tallied, the march should be added to the List of largest peaceful gatherings in history article. Just in terms of the USA, it should already be on the list, but I'm not going to add it because we should have full idea first. Victor Grigas (talk) 02:04, 22 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Should we keep the article having sections for every state / country's march, or can we do something better? It seems a lot of headings considering the amount of content in each. Perhaps we could have a table with "state/country, approx. attendance number, notes"? Or we could have headings for Continent rather than each country? Open to ideas. Sam Walton (talk) 00:06, 22 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

• I started an example of a table format at User:Samwalton9/sandbox. Sam Walton (talk) 00:45, 22 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

We need to reformat, the list is unwieldy now. I thought about collapsing California (San Diege, SF and LA), but that doesn't help with the other cites...regions? West, SW, SE? Bjhillis (talk) 01:55, 22 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Women's March on Washington → 2017 Women's March – According to PolitiFact, "Women's March" is the collective name of protests. I added "2017" to the proposed title to help with disambiguation. Additionally, this would help create a page with the current title that totally focuses on the march in Washington, DC (if such a page is desired). ^Falling_Gravity 01:23, 22 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

• Support: There was a similar march called March for Women's Lives, which took place in 2004. Several news sources can be seen here There are also many similar marches in 1987, 1989, and 1992, as seen Here. Yoshiman6464 ^♫🥚 02:01, 22 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Here is an additional Report regarding the 1992 march: [1] Yoshiman6464 ^♫🥚 02:01, 22 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]