Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Charlie Hodge (guitarist)
- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was keep. Lord Roem ~ (talk) 23:03, 2 January 2023 (UTC)
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Totally unsourced article. I already deleted a completely unsourced large potion of "Last year and death" which was mostly about his funeral. Charlie Hodge played no significant role in the music of Elvis Presley. He was a left-over hanger-on from the Army days who lived in the basement at Graceland. He was not a body guard, and had no significant role in the music, except to stand on stage with his own guitar and hand Elvis his water and scarf. The fans loved him, because he was always accessible to them. After the death of Elvis, Charlie took credit for everything and even claimed to have done Elvis' hair and makeup in the coffin (it was actually Larry Geller). — Maile (talk) 12:23, 12 December 2022 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Music-related deletion discussions. — Maile (talk) 12:23, 12 December 2022 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Bands and musicians and Alabama. Spiderone(Talk to Spider) 12:32, 12 December 2022 (UTC)
- Delete, even searching google news and google, the top search is this page, an elvis fanpage(!) and 1 news article from Australia. Think you are right. Ask me about air Cryogenic air (talk) 13:24, 12 December 2022 (UTC)
- Keep I think there's a fair bit of coverage for an article: Obituary in the Independent; another obituary "Charlie Hodge, longtime Elvis friend, dies at 71."; recent articles in the Daily EXpress, Elvis Presley's best friend Charlie Hodge on prank which almost 'BURNED down hotel' and Elvis Presley's family on lavish way King made up with close friend he'd smacked in anger Piecesofuk (talk) 15:59, 13 December 2022 (UTC)
- "Elvis Presley's best friend Charlie Hodge" is a POV (Charlie's), considering Marty Lacker and Joe Esposito served as co-best men at Elvis and Priscilla's wedding. 1 And then there was George Klein (DJ).2 — Maile (talk) 21:04, 13 December 2022 (UTC)
- Weak Keep Based on a hardline interpretation of wikipedia notability criteria, the coverage cited in the Keep vote above alone meets the multiple source requirements. That said, I'm a bit troubled that everything--and I mean EVERTHING (including his multiple reliable sourced obituaries)--that has ever been written about the person has only been because of a connection to a extremely famous person rather than an encyclopedic level accomplishment. At the very least, if this winds up being deleted a redirect to Memphis Mafia would be in order. ShelbyMarion (talk) 02:44, 14 December 2022 (UTC)
- Keep I find news articles and books, he passes WP:GNG Lightburst (talk) 19:58, 14 December 2022 (UTC)
- Keep I find news articles and books, he passes WP:GNG - Me too GRALISTAIR (talk) 16:17, 16 December 2022 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz Read! Talk! 18:31, 19 December 2022 (UTC)Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Daniel (talk) 22:04, 26 December 2022 (UTC)- Comment if it is to be kept, the article itself needs far better sourcing. Criticalus (talk) 22:07, 26 December 2022 (UTC)
- Keep: This guitarist appears noteworthy. However, this article need additional citations. passes WP:GNG. Gothamk (talk) 05:03, 27 December 2022 (UTC)
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