Talk:Slavery in the United States
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Semi-protected edit request on 1 November 2025
I request for where it says "Africans and African Americans" to be changed to "sub-Saharan Africans and African Americans" because only sub-Saharan Africans were enslaved in the US, not North Africans. 2A0A:EF40:1D88:3701:3C7D:1160:97B7:DAA (talk) 19:38, 1 November 2025 (UTC)
Not done for now: please establish a consensus for this alteration before using the {{Edit semi-protected}}template. Slomo666 (talk) 21:54, 1 November 2025 (UTC)
Wikipedia:Consensus: Sub-Saharan Africans are Black, while North Africans are not and only Black people were enslaved in the US.
Misleading statement in lead
The lead says, in its first paragraph: Slavery was established throughout European colonization in the Americas.
I think the point it is trying to get across is that slavery was a component of much European colonization in the Americas. The word "established" suggests that slavery did not exist in the Americas prior to European colonization. This is not true, as many of the pre-Columbian societies in the Americas made extensive use of slavery, in some cases, this happened in regions that became part of the USA. The article Slavery in pre-Columbian America gives this some coverage.
I have changed the sentence in the lead to deal with this problem. ThoughtIdRetired TIR 17:38, 2 November 2025 (UTC)
Article length and recent additions
@110 and 135: could you please stop adding new material to this article? The main problem we have here is article length, which is already way too high. WP:SIZERULE states that articles with 9,000 or more words should "probably" be divided or trimmed, while those with 15,000 or more words should "almost certainly" be divided or trimmed. Right now the article stands at 21,600 words! So any addition brings it farther beyond what's manageable and reader-friendly. So the best ways to improve this article at the moment are to rewrite parts to condense them and to move less essential material into sub-articles (summary style), out of this main one. Just adding new stuff is not the way to too, as it makes the length issue only worse! Moreover, your additions tend to be repetitious, not properly considering what's already there. For example, for the most recent batch:
- Abolitionist Movement: already covered in the "Civil War and emancipation" section.
- Enslaved people organized rebellions: that paragraph chiefly seems to repeat what was already said in the "Slave rebellions" section to which you added it.
- Missouri Compromise: already mentioned several times, doesn't need a section of its own.
So please, if you want to improve this article, help to make it shorter, not longer! Gawaon (talk) 09:03, 5 February 2026 (UTC)
Semi-protected edit request on 11 February 2026
Remove the warning beginning with "This article may be too long to read and navigate comfortably." There are many other longer pages that do not have this warning. ~2026-91669-5 (talk) 01:44, 11 February 2026 (UTC)
Not done: Page is too long (my mouse cursor is bigger than the scroll bar handle), can you link those longer pages so I can go ahead and add the template? Cheers. – LuniZunie(talk) 01:45, 11 February 2026 (UTC)
