Talk:Heroin

Harm Reduction

A great amount of article space was devoted to discuss the general idea of Harm reduction. This article is not a place for this and it ought not be included except for what can be connected to heroin. I have boldly removed that section entirely as being only tangentially related. Graywalls (talk) 09:20, 11 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Heroin is also used in medical treatments, not only as a recreational drug. The description of the page should mention such. Instead of only saying it’s used for recreational use

Such as, "Pain medication and more commonly used as a recreational drug"

No other common opioids that are abused recreationally have this description on wikipefia Utaninja (talk) 13:09, 23 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

There is a Medical Uses section, and non-recreational purposes are mentioned throughout, and the lead says more commonly as a recreational drug. I think that's almost certainly true, but if you can find a source saying it's more commonly used in a medical setting than recreationally, I'm sure that'd be welcomed. For a similarly structured article, i.e. a drug that is more commonly used recreationally than medically but does get some niche medical use, see methamphetamine. I think with other opioids, even heavily abused ones, they are more used medicinally than recreationally; also most other abused opioids are manufactured pharmaceutical drugs, and so at some stage require an intent for medical use (i.e. a prescription) to make their way onto the (black) market, whereas heroin sidesteps the pharmaceutical manufacturing step.
Kimen8 (talk) 13:28, 23 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
That makes sense. Heroin is certainly used more recreationally than medically. Thanks for the explanation! This makes perfect sense. Utaninja (talk) 17:42, 8 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
that's not necessarily true. other opioids do get made illicitly, heroin is not particularly unique for that. Also methamphetamine is far more of a niche use than heroin is. heroin is a first line treatment for the pain of severe injuries in places whereas methamphetamine isn't a first line treatment for anything anywhere. it's a drug of last resort for very extreme cases of ADHD. and even there, methamphetamine's medical uses still get mentioned before their recreational use making it arguably more prominent on that page than a medication with a literal ton of yearly official production. while numbers for methamphetamine production aren't officially released, they're highly likely not over a single kilogram.
A better comparison would be to fentanyl, which absolutely does get a much more significant focus in the article on it's medical uses, the page even incorrectly stating it's primarily used medically despite seizures alone adding up to an order of magnitude more fentanyl than gets legally produced. ~2026-42829-9 (talk) 11:35, 20 January 2026 (UTC)[reply]

Opium is grown in

At present, opium poppies are mostly grown in Afghanistan (224,000 hectares (550,000 acres)), and in Southeast Asia, especially in the region known as the Golden Triangle straddling Burma (57,600 hectares (142,000 acres)), Thailand,


Afghanistan might be a little outdated by now since it's been about 3 years after the taliban outlawed it, but they were still growing itnshoetly after the ban. The main poppy source globally is now: Australia, Turkey, and the EU (Spain and one or two other countries, France and Hungary I think). Australia (Tasmania/J&J) grows >50% of the world's supply. I'm aware that poppy growing and thebaine and opravine is different to what this article is about. W;ChangingUsername (talk) 04:57, 18 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Heroin is used medically in several countries to relieve pain, such as during childbirth or a heart attack, as well as in opioid replacement therapy.[8][9][10]

this sentence implies the references cite uses of the original chemical heroin as opioid replacement therapy but that does not seem to be the case when reading the actual citations. to be more blunt, in those citations, heroin is not used as the treatment medication but is itself what is being replaced by a different opioid. Spicy-Pepe (talk) 08:29, 19 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

as a logical extension.
A list of the countries where this is already permitted/allowed. Well, the Netherlands, the USA, Liberia, India (more than 1,000,000,000 inhabitants!), ...? No joke. In some countries it is still punishable by death. Import - a breach of state security. State protection for heroin export is viewed as a hostile activity.
A shame for us, Wiki users.
A guess.
If one of the consuming states survives a terrorist attack, like a counter-argument.
Against heroin consumption (heroin export).
That could refresh, accelerate, and activate our discussion.
There have already been some psychological ones.
Because of jobs, because of sexual orientation, etc.––––

Heroin tolerance is not due to receptor upregulation?

The article states that Heroin tolerance is due to receptor upregulation. This is incorrect and directly contradicted by this source: https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S1524904207000768

Also, the cited source does not state that tolerance is due to upregulation. It's not even about Heroin or opioid drugs. - ♍ (talk) 23:54, 13 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Heroin tolerance , - and ,
the largest supplier. Some point to the continent of Africa. Others point to the Netherlands.
We feel unwell and sick. Russian diplomats! Via posts-diplomatic .
All over the world. The Lieder !
For the distribution of so-called "Russian Hiroïn" (Hiroïn + Prednisolone :).Personnel1234 (talk) 15:37, 10 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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