Talk:Amritpal Singh


Sikh meaning

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do any body know sikh meaning 2409:4055:2DCC:5C38:0:0:EA89:6A08 (talk) 06:44, 31 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Sikh are people who always strive to learn new things and was formed by Guru Gobind Singh Ji Jasdeep Sandhu07 (talk) 06:47, 31 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Come canonni Jasdeep Sandhu07 (talk) 06:47, 31 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Hi, what do you need me for? CanonNi (talk) 06:49, 31 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Reverts

@Jattlife121 Donot revert me now without discussion. WP:PUBLICFIGURE states that for Public Figures we simply report what the RS says and not wait for a conviction in incidents and cases. >>> Extorc.talk 07:22, 17 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Point to me to the exact the line it says this. Just with Donald Trump trial, nothing was done until a conviction was made. Per other Public Figures that have ongoing trials, they aren't guilty by media until conviction. Have a read yourself of the page "A living person accused of a crime is presumed innocent until convicted by a court of law. Accusations, investigations and arrests do not amount to a conviction".
I understand you have an unfavourable view of the individual in question as per your edits, but lets wait for other opinions from International Wikipedia members. Jattlife121 (talk) 07:28, 17 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Jattlife121
  • See, there is a fundamental flaw in your reasoning. I am demanding we write exactly what the source says.
    • "Supporters of Amritpal Singh ... vandalised a gurdwara in Jalandhar Monday night. Singh visited various gurdwaras Monday ... as a part of his ongoing state-wide march titled ‘Khalsa Wahir’."[1]
    • "A group led by Sikh preacher Amritpal Singh ... his supporters broke the furniture at a gurdwara in Biharipur village in protest against the seating arrangement."[2]
Sources undoubtedly claim that he participated in violence. Your reference to WP:BLPCRIME is faulty because BLPCRIME deals with inclusion and not tone. Here, there is no doubt that BLPCRIME doesn't apply on Singh and hence the content can be included in the article and that the sources clearly say he participated in violence.
  • "I understand you have an unfavorable view of the individual in question as per your edits", please stick to the merits of the conversation and not involve inclinations. I am following the policy and you should too.
  • Your second revert of my edit amounts to WP:EDITWAR. Kindly refrain from such actions.
>>> Extorc.talk 11:58, 17 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
It seems there you have had a misunderstanding. The individual must be convicted to say "Participated". Trial by the media doesn't work as mentioned per the reference I have given. I think we need to take further action and get a separate opinion that's unbiased both from religious, cultural and national politics relating to the individual. Also you say he participated in violence but it was his supporters per those "Indian sources" so that doesn't even make sense. You need to use wider sources outside of India to obtain a fair overview of the person. If convicted, I'm happy for it to be reversed. Lets get an unbiased look at this ! Jattlife121 (talk) 08:55, 19 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
" The individual must be convicted to say "Participated" That is incorrect, the sources say he participated, and we follow the sources. I am citing WP policy and guidelines while you fail to do so.
"Also you say he participated in violence but it was his supporters per those "Indian sources" - Read again "A group led by Sikh preacher Amritpal Singh"
" You need to use wider sources outside of India" - If a source is reliable, there should be no reason to not use its content when its DUE. The bias you are alleging here doesn't exist. >>> Extorc.talk 10:50, 19 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

References

  1. ^ "Members of 'Waris Punjab De' burn chairs, sofas at Jalandhar gurdwara". Indian Express. 13 December 2022. Archived from the original on 14 December 2022. Retrieved 14 December 2022.
  2. ^ "Supporters of Amritpal create ruckus at gurdwara". The Tribune. 10 December 2022. Archived from the original on 14 December 2022. Retrieved 14 December 2022.

Semi-protected edit request on 24 June 2024

In the first line, it says that he is 'radical'. There is no proof that he is radical. The source cited is not a scholarly article. It is just a news site, which is biased towards the Indian state. So he is not radical. And he is not self styled or a preacher. His biggest contribution during the time he has been in Punjab between November 2022 to April 2023 is his activism against drugs. So he is an activist, not a 'self styled preacher'. Gurnisha (talk) 18:49, 24 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. >>> Extorc.talk 19:10, 24 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
While I fully agree this article has severe NPOV issues and its characterisation of the subject as a "radical" isn't reliably sourced, we need changes to work with if you want the request implemented. 69.157.2.216 (talk) 22:05, 12 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move 23 April 2025

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The result of the move request was: not moved. Per discussion below. Best, (closed by non-admin page mover) Reading Beans, Duke of Rivia 04:59, 27 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Amritpal Singh → Amritpal Singh SandhuAmritpal Singh Sandhu – Nothing indicates "Amritpal Singh" WP:PRIMARYTOPIC for this figure. "Amritpal Singh Sandhu" would be a better title as it's his full name and the name which he officially uses in documents, and also to disambiguate with other people named "Amritpal Singh" such as Amritpal Singh Dhillon, Amritpal Singh Sukhanand, Amritpal Singh (basketball), Amritpal Singh (long jumper) etc. Al-Waqīmī (talk) 19:30, 23 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I withdraw from the proposal after Extorc's comments. Al-Waqīmī (talk) 00:39, 27 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose You have not demonstrated in any way that he is not the primary topic. Almost all sources in the article call him Amritpal Singh making it the COMMONNAME. Amritpal Singh Dhillon uses the name AP Dhillon, which is his COMMONNAME. The rest of the names you mentioned are 2 athletes and one politician who are in no way near the recognition of this person. >>> Extorc.talk 20:45, 26 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Semi-protected edit request on 10 February 2026

Change the line about Sikh protestors in Canada throwing grenades into the Indian high commission. That was an allegation by Indian sources and has been disproven. ~2026-89008-8 (talk) 05:44, 10 February 2026 (UTC)[reply]

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want made. Please detail the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. meamemg (talk) 15:00, 10 February 2026 (UTC)[reply]
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