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The result was delete‎. ^Complex/_Rational 13:09, 14 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Fails WP:GNG. Not a trace found in reliable sources. Even the source cited (War graves commission) appears to have no record of this soldier. Kleuske (talk) 11:32, 7 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

• Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: History, Military, and United Kingdom. Kleuske (talk) 11:32, 7 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
• Comment. Here he is on the Commonwealth War Graves Commission. Qcne (talk) 11:43, 7 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Overlooked that one. Stricken. Kleuske (talk) 11:48, 7 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

    now that we have reliable sorces could you please remove the articles for deletion sticker thanks JohnStevens1919 (talk) 11:50, 7 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

    Just wondering if you have a personal connection to the Langtry family, @JohnStevens1919, as you also created J. M. Langtry. I'm not fully sure James Langtry meets the Wikipedia:Notability (sports) either :( Qcne (talk) 12:14, 7 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

    • Sorry. The poor man still fails WP:GNG. Kleuske (talk) 12:02, 7 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

and here https://uk.forceswarrecords.com/record/735140244/langtry-charles-soldiers-died-in-the-great-war-1914-1919 JohnStevens1919 (talk) 11:57, 7 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete. Completely non-notable, I'm afraid. Just one of countless soldiers who served in WWI with honour but without any notability. And he received the Long Service and Good Conduct Medal at the age of 19? I don't think so. The clue is in the name. -- Necrothesp (talk) 12:46, 7 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

  49 he was a The Royal Hospital Chelsea Pensioner when the war broke out JohnStevens1919 (talk) 12:51, 7 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

  he was born 1870 and died 1918 at the age of 49 JohnStevens1919 (talk) 12:52, 7 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

  But the article claims he received the medal in 1889! -- Necrothesp (talk) 15:21, 7 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete the subject does, indeed, fail WP:GNG and we also have WP:NOTGENEALOGY. Best Alexandermcnabb (talk) 12:47, 7 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

https://www.yeoviltown.com/warmemorial/worldwar1.aspx charles langtry yeovil war memorial JohnStevens1919 (talk) 12:51, 7 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Hi @JohnStevens1919, I ask again if you have any connection to the Langtry family? If so you really need to declare your Wikipedia:Conflict of interest immediately. Qcne (talk) 13:20, 7 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete fails WP:GNG. Mztourist (talk) 12:54, 7 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

  that is because you are not historians of just have old fashion views about our national history ... you should speak first with the royal british legion

In 1914, Sir Fabian Ware, the commander of a mobile unit of the Red Cross on the Western Front, felt driven to find a way to ensure that the final resting places of the dead of the Great War would not be lost forever. He and his unit began recording and caring for all the graves they could find. By 1915, their work was given official recognition by the War Office and incorporated into the British Army and in 1917 the Imperial War Graves Commission was established by Royal Charter.

• https://www.iwm.org.uk/partnerships/mapping-the-centenary/projects/the-commonwealth-war-graves-commission-the-first-world-war JohnStevens1919 (talk) 13:40, 7 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

  Please elucidate, yes or no, if you have a connection to the Langtry family. Qcne (talk) 14:34, 7 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

  How on earth is the establishment of the IWGC at all relevant to the notability of this one man? And many of us here are historians, including military historians. Please explain why this one soldier in particular should be notable? Or do you think all WWI veterans are notable? That would be a lot of people! -- Necrothesp (talk) 15:25, 7 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete Solder doing soldierly stuff isn't notable. Nothing terribly outstanding about his record from what I'm reading. Oaktree b (talk) 15:37, 7 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

  To be blunt, his medals aren't notable. Everyone that showed up and made it back home got one of these. I don't want to call them participation trophies, but everyone got one of them for serving. Earning a Victoria Cross or something similar would make him notable, this individual just went to war, managed to stay alive, got a handshake and a thank you for your service medal and went home. Oaktree b (talk) 15:39, 7 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete No credible claim of notability. The War Medal and Victory Medal were given to everyone who joined up, and the memorial plaque to the family of everyone who died. (I pause to remember my great uncle Jack, who was killed on 12 October 1917.) Hawkeye7 (discuss) 23:41, 11 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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