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The result was redirect to Mughal Army#ahadees. v/r - TP 22:37, 23 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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The common use of the term ahadees is the plural form of hadith. There is no evidence, in Wikipedia, Google search, or otherwise, that the word also referred to a cavalry Ratibgreat (talk) 14:56, 9 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

According to Ahadees.com, the word ahadees means "Sayings of Holy Prophet Hazarat Muhammad S.A.W.". The article on hadith in Wikipedia states that "The term Hadīth (plural: hadith, hadiths, or ahadith) is used to denote a saying, act or tacit approval, validly or invalidly, ascribed to the Islamic prophet Muhammad." There is no evidence that the word means anything else. Ratibgreat (talk) 15:00, 9 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry man, there are actually a number of sources on that. –Roscelese (talk ⋅ contribs) 06:03, 10 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Military-related deletion discussions. — • Gene93k (talk) 17:56, 9 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Sir why you want to delete this. If you want a proof I have a telugu history book named Madya yugalanati bharatadesm(Medivial India) written by Satish Chandra. I read about the Ahadees in that book. If you have any doubt in my words then I will send you scans of book pages. Sridhar1000 (talk)

Okay, great! My bad! So I guess we can ask the original author to add the citations. I'll add categories and WikiProjects to the page so that more people can get involved. I guess the consensus is now keep? Ratibgreat (talk) 11:23, 10 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

• Comment. The sources I see point to Ahadi/Ahadis being more common than Ahadee/Ahadees, would you agree? --Muhandes (talk) 17:07, 10 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Ron Ritzman (talk) 00:01, 16 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete - Keep - but rename to "ahadis" - This word definitely means a kind of knight or horseman or gentleman in the ancient Mughal world. Lots of sources: [1], [2] , [3], [4], etc. There is some confusion because the word can be spelled a few ways (ahadis, ahadi, ahadee), and the spellings may use diacritics, and the plural is different, and the same spelling also means a kind of Islamic quote, namely hadith. But it is a genuine class of warrior. However article should be renamed to singular "ahadis" because (1) more consistent with WP naming conventions; and (2) more commonly used term in the sources. Amending vote per Fram below --Noleander (talk) 01:41, 16 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep and Rename to Ahadis per above. If I understand correctly the nominator withdrew the nomination (that's what "Okay, great! My bad!" usually means) so there is very little reason for this relisting. Renaming discussion can be taken to the talk page. --Muhandes (talk) 17:00, 17 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
• Speedy delete per Fram below, good catch. --Muhandes (talk) 14:22, 21 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
• Speedy delete and redirect, the page is a literal, unattributed (and thus copyright violating) copy of Mughal Army#ahadees. No need to duplicate this info. Fram (talk) 13:32, 21 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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