Requested move 5 January 2025

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The result of the move request was: moved. It's been over 20 days since this RM was started and after going over the discussion I feel that there is some consensus towards moving to the new title. Dr vulpes (Talk) 10:41, 26 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]


2009 Malmö anti-Israel riots2009 Malmö Davis Cup riots – Was boldly moved to 2009 Malmö anti-Israel riots in 2017, I believe some variation of 'Davis Cup riots'/'tennis riots' to be the WP:COMMONNAME looking at the coverage in Swedish media, while the english language sources refer to an 'anti-israel protest' rather than a riot. Since we need to choose one, I propose going back to the old title. AlexandraAVX (talk) 17:09, 5 January 2025 (UTC)— Relisting. —usernamekiran (talk) 16:30, 16 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

  • AlexandraAVX I did some search on this and I wonder if "protests" is more of a common description than riots?[1][2][3][4] Media brought this up recently in relation to a factcheck and also used the "protest"[5]. The Historical Dictionary of Tennis says the 2009 Davis Cup was "held behind closed doors due to potential protests" (page 146). I mention this particular source as it is both encyclopedic, and has a fairly neutral focus, unlike most sources, which typically take sides.VR (Please ping on reply) 03:26, 14 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    Police were attacked. Paint boms, bottles, firecrackers and pavement stones were thrown. A hundred people were arrested. This was clearly more than just protests. Tvx1 22:02, 16 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    Article titles should be decided based on RS descriptions and be neutral per WP:DESCRIPTOR. Almost all large-scale protests do involve at least a small amount of violence.VR (Please ping on reply) 04:40, 18 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    "Almost all large-scale protests do involve at least a small amount of violence" There is such a thing as non-violent protests? I have rarely heard about it, and I generally assume it to be as mythical as the unicorn. Protests are typically measured by the blood shed by the protestors. Dimadick (talk) 15:47, 18 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    Protests that are mostly peaceful can be considered "non-violent protests." It would appear this protest had several hundred protesters of which only 10 were convicted. That would imply 90-99% of participants were peaceful.
    In any case, we should go by how RS characterize the event, not our own analysis.VR (Please ping on reply) 17:09, 18 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    Of course there is. There is very much something as the peaceful march. There have been plenty of protest that revolved showing precence and which didn’t involved violence. Tvx1 20:26, 18 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    I'm fine with either title, the only other argument I can see for riot is that it's the main 'notability' of the event, but I don't know if that's part of our name policy anywhere. AlexandraAVX (talk) 08:04, 19 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    @AlexandraAVX Notability generates from multiple sources giving it WP:SIGCOV, regardless of whether the protests were peaceful or not.VR (Please ping on reply) 09:28, 19 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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