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:::[[WP:RFPP|Requested]] Cheers --[[User:Pak21|Pak21]] 08:18, 29 March 2007 (UTC)
:::[[WP:RFPP|Requested]] Cheers --[[User:Pak21|Pak21]] 08:18, 29 March 2007 (UTC)
::::Well, that got rejected pretty quickly. Guess we'll just have keep on watching it. Cheers, [[User:PaddyM|PaddyM]] 13:46, 29 March 2007 (UTC)
::::Well, that got rejected pretty quickly. Guess we'll just have keep on watching it. Cheers, [[User:PaddyM|PaddyM]] 13:46, 29 March 2007 (UTC)

== starting paragraph ==

I was thinking about changing the lead of this article in three ways.
1) There is a redudancy in the ways to score a point. According to the rules a team scores a point if a) balls hits ground b) opponent makes fault (this includes not bringing the ball back correctly!) c) the opponent gets a penalty (for behavioral reasons). I propose we mention either these three or skip the last one. but since the third possibility mentioned now is part of the second I propose we at least strike that one.
2) There is not really a point in mentioning that vertical jumping is part of volleyball. I would personnaly never explain volleyball in two sentences to anybody and then choose to mention the fact that the athletic skill of vertical jumping is very important. (if we put this down here, it may for example also warrant the inclusion of the fact that a lot of volleyball players at high levels are very long because the game involves hitting the ball above the net.) I opt for removal.
3) Lets include here the concept of 'to volley', and specifcy, not necessarily in too many words the 'way' the ball is supposed to be touched, which is integral for the sport.
If there are no strong objections I will go for editing. Thanks for your time! -[[User:Catneven|Catneven]] 08:02, 31 May 2007 (UTC)

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Volleyball can be a very active sport. Because many offensive plays involve contacting the ball above the top of the net, vertical jumping is an athletic skill emphasized in volleyball.

—The preceding unsigned comment was added by Drgnaw (talk • contribs).

Realistically, I don't think that's too PoV. I have re-added the sentence and included a reference to a paper. --Pak21 17:02, 1 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Kills

What, exactly, is a "kill?" I see it on a lot of statistics as something separate from a point and I have no idea what it is. I was surprised to see no mention of it on here. I'm assuming its another name for something already listed, but that would be good to include this as an alternate name for it. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 128.97.253.2 (talk • contribs).

See Volleyball jargon. Unfortunately, people have trashed that page again by adding in huge amounts of non-notable jargon but kill is still there. --Pak21 08:46, 19 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Semi-protection

I'm starting to feel that it may be time to ask for semi-protection for this page, as almost every edit seems to either be vandalism by an anonymous IP, or a reversion to undo that vandalism. Any opinions? Cheers --Pak21 08:19, 28 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

It's not as bad as some (suffers vandalism only several times per day) but yes, with no content edits for a while, it might be worth it for some time. Icemuon 10:12, 28 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Whoa, just looking at my watchlist after being gone for a day and seeing this page being vandalised constantly leads me to agree completely with Pak21. I'm in favor of semiprotection.. Cheers, PaddyM 03:07, 29 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Requested Cheers --Pak21 08:18, 29 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Well, that got rejected pretty quickly. Guess we'll just have keep on watching it. Cheers, PaddyM 13:46, 29 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

starting paragraph

I was thinking about changing the lead of this article in three ways. 1) There is a redudancy in the ways to score a point. According to the rules a team scores a point if a) balls hits ground b) opponent makes fault (this includes not bringing the ball back correctly!) c) the opponent gets a penalty (for behavioral reasons). I propose we mention either these three or skip the last one. but since the third possibility mentioned now is part of the second I propose we at least strike that one. 2) There is not really a point in mentioning that vertical jumping is part of volleyball. I would personnaly never explain volleyball in two sentences to anybody and then choose to mention the fact that the athletic skill of vertical jumping is very important. (if we put this down here, it may for example also warrant the inclusion of the fact that a lot of volleyball players at high levels are very long because the game involves hitting the ball above the net.) I opt for removal. 3) Lets include here the concept of 'to volley', and specifcy, not necessarily in too many words the 'way' the ball is supposed to be touched, which is integral for the sport. If there are no strong objections I will go for editing. Thanks for your time! -Catneven 08:02, 31 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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