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The result was delete. bibliomaniac15 03:09, 10 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Non-notable game that has been in development for years that has yet to be released. Being published by a small game studio funded through Kickstarter. Delete per WP:NOTFUTURE. Mkdw ^talk 20:47, 22 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Video games-related deletion discussions. CAPTAIN RAJU^(T) 20:50, 22 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

• There is a solid chunk of stuff in the VGSE, at least one of which is a good preview and several of which are from 2019. I lean toward a keep here. --Izno (talk) 22:13, 22 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

  There's nothing even remotely recent. Would it not make sense to reassess if the game was actually released? Mkdw ^talk 23:08, 22 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

  But recent isn't a criterion in any of our PAGs to exclude content? A positive indication the game won't release might be reasonable here, but 2019 is still within the grasp. And anyway, there have been other games that didn't release though it was expected. Delays are common, even if it weren't a Kickstarter game. --Izno (talk) 21:02, 23 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not talking about recentism. You brought up 2019 and previews as if it had any relevance to notability which it does not. It's either notable now or not. Im inclined to agree with Jovanmilic97 that regardless of the preview, trailer, and early user score pages you found on Google, it does not constitute significant coverage by independent and reliable sources. Mkdw ^talk 21:40, 23 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

• Comment The only good source that isn't an interview/WP:PRIMARY, discusses the game in-depth and isn't a routine announcement is [1]. I am fine with draftifying it until the full release comes out. Jovanmilic97 (talk) 12:09, 23 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Weak Keep: The subject definitely needs improvement. I've added two more sources from Bleeding Cool and Screen Rant. In worst case, moving to draft would be the best option. Lunar Clock (talk) 22:59, 1 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete as per the nominator, as per WP:NOTFUTURE. Gritmem (talk) 20:42, 5 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete lacks coverage at this stage. Cheers, 1292simon (talk)
• Delete per WP:CRYSTAL. -- RoySmith (talk) 00:43, 9 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete Like I said in my comment above, it fails WP:GNG with only one pre-release indepth coverage so far and not close to the release. It may be notable in the future, but not now. WP:TOOSOON. Jovanmilic97 (talk) 10:16, 9 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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