The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.‎

The result was redirect to Brevard County, Florida#Elected officials. MBisanz ^talk 00:27, 6 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Fluff piece that fails WP:POLITICIAN. Black Kite (talk) 00:50, 29 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

• Note we have two editors working on this article that are acting as one. I don't see abuse, but would consider abuse likely if they both participated, since one appears to be working at the request of the other. Dennis Brown - 2¢ © Join WER 00:54, 29 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

• To make this clear, those two editors are User:Andybrevard and User:Badboyzshop. If both comment on this AfD, any editor is welcome to strike one of the !votes. Black Kite (talk) 01:19, 29 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

• First - The issue regarding usernames was discussed and resolved earlier via User talk:Badboyzshop ... but I'll re-post: "I am new to wiki and teaching myself how to write and edit in order to write about east central Florida topics and persons of interest - specifically political figures. I used the user name AndyBrevard as that was the subject if my first article. Unfortunately I was accused by other users of actually being Andy Anderson because of my user name. So - I created a new account in order to elevate that concern as I am not Andy Anderson. I'm sure there was a better way to do it - but I am learning. Any suggestions or guidance is appreciated. Badboyzshop (talk) 12:26, 28 December 2012 (UTC)

  If an editor or administrator would like to remove "AndyBrevard" - that would be fine - or merge those edits to to "badboyzshop" - I am fine with that. I apologize for any confusion I may have caused. Badboyzshop (talk) 12:49, 28 December 2012 (UTC)"

  Second - I'm not sure what "fluff" means. I based my Article on less known elected officials in Florida - Teresa Jacobs, Joe Wickham, Buddy Dyer, Bill Proctor, Sally A. Heyman - I could add 15 - 20 more if needed. Mr. Anderson has governed in far larger population areas than most that have articles - not to mention his influence regarding the Space industry - Brevard is home to Kennedy Space Center. In Addition, everything in the article is backed up with references and there is no opinion or spin. So going by your reasoning for deletion, All the other pages regarding Commissioners in Florida should be deleted as they have little substance and barely any references compared to this Article. If that is the case - all the others will also be considered for deletion - than I am O.K. if my Article is deleted. Thank You!

  BTW - is this how the process works? I am writing 2 more articles because I found the process fascinating to this point. Can anybody nominate an article for deletion based on very subjective criteria or political philosophy? If so - I'll cease my efforts regarding my East Central Florida contributions for Wiki.

  Also - reviewing the "Notability Guidelines" - Can you tell me where this Article would specifically violate the guidelines?

  Badboyzshop (talk) 01:53, 29 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

As I said on the talk page, it doesn't have to violate a policy to be deleted, but it must pass the criteria for inclusion. Being included in the encyclopedia isn't automatic, the subject matter has to demonstrate it is notable, according to our criteria at WP:GNG (general notability), which is explained a little more plainly at the policy for politicians, WP:POLITICIAN. Keep in mind, this is not a general topic website, but an encyclopedia, with a higher bar for inclusion than a directory type website. Dennis Brown - 2¢ © Join WER 13:26, 29 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete - Per WP:POLITICIAN. County commissioners are not automatically notable enough for Wikipedia. (This is not a statewide office). If he is elected to the Florida House of Representatives in 2016 an article might be considered at that time. Even as a commissioner, he might be considered for an article if he's received an unusual amount of press coverage, for instance in major state or national newspapers. EdJohnston (talk) 03:12, 29 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

• COMMENT please note that the userpage User:Andybrevard contains a sandbox version of this article. If the article is deemed to be deleted, then probably the usersandbox should also. -- 70.24.248.246 (talk) 05:14, 29 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]
• NOTE there is a related deletion discussion at commons:Commons:Deletion requests/File:Commissioner Andy Anderson.jpg -- 70.24.248.246 (talk) 06:12, 29 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete Not notable. No significant non-local, widespread coverage. - Presidentman talk · contribs (Talkback) 16:17, 29 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Florida-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 20:04, 29 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Politicians-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 20:04, 29 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

• Weak delete per WP:POLITICIAN. I will admit that I have difficult reconciling WP:NOT#NEWS with WP:GNG in these cases. As long as the sources are reliable and there are no copyvio or BLP concerns, I have no problem letting the user maintain a copy of this page in a sandbox for future reference if the subject should become notable (i.e. article mentions intention of running for statewide office in 2016). Location (talk) 20:26, 29 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]
• Redirect to Brevard County, Florida#Elected officials. After briefly looking at the article, and the references provided there, and news stories regarding the subject, I am of the opinion that the subject has not received significant coverage in multiple reliable sources where he is the primary subject to warrant passage of WP:GNG, WP:SOLDIER, or WP:POLITICIAN. That being said, the individual has received multiple mentions in more than a dozen reliable sources; therefore, the article can be changed into a redirect, and if the subject becomes notable in the future, the article can be recreated.--RightCowLeftCoast (talk) 03:23, 30 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete does not meet WP:Politician under any reasonable interpretation; and if it did, it's very close to an advertisement and would need to be rewritten. DGG ( talk ) 05:36, 2 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete per DGG. GregJackP Boomer! 04:14, 4 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete. Commissioner not automatically notable. Yes, Joe Wickham was an exception, with which I agree. Dyer was a state senator and is automatically notable. I don't know about the other two. Maybe they should be deleted, but they aren't the topic here. Student7 (talk) 21:33, 4 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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