Talk:Eurovision Song Contest 1961
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A fact from this article appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the "Did you know?" column on December 22, 2025. The text of the entry was: Did you know ... that Lale Andersen, who was popular on both sides of World War II for her version of "Lili Marleen", represented Germany in the Eurovision Song Contest 1961? | ||||||||||
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Logo
The logo on this page is the 1959 one. Zé da Silva 12:39, 21 December 2006 (UTC)
fixed. Wesley☀Mouse 16:11, 12 June 2012 (UTC)
Emil Kollpacher
Emil Kollpacher is given as both the Austrian commentator and the Austrian spokesperson. Is that credible ? Weren't the commentators in Cannes and the jury in Austria ? --EurovisionLibrarian (talk) 19:12, 7 June 2023 (UTC)
- Neither piece of information is sourced, although it is feasible that the Austrian commentary could have been provided from a studio in Austria rather than the commentator being on location in Cannes. However as the information is unsourced I have removed the additions to the broadcasts table. Sims2aholic8 (talk) 20:20, 7 June 2023 (UTC)
- Thanks ! The Austria country page says that between 1957 and 1963 commentary was provided by German Television but this is also unsourced. If I come across a source which says more clearly anything about the Austrian commentators (and spokespersons) in the early years, I'll update these pages. --EurovisionLibrarian (talk) 14:39, 8 June 2023 (UTC)
Dates given for rehearsals and running order draw
The date provided for the draw and beginning of rehearsals is 16 March 1959, which doesn't seem right considering that the 1959 contest was held on the 11th of March 1959, and the 1960 contest wouldn't be held till March 1960. I find it hard to believe the book that they've cited states that rehearsals began 2 years before the contest. Maybe they got the years Cannes hosted mixed up and put 1961 instead of 1959? TrevTree8 (talk) 09:09, 11 December 2023 (UTC)
- Yeah, sorry, I worked on sources for both 1959 and 1961 at the same time, and didn't notice the typo when editing. Of course, it's meant to be "16 March 1961", two days before the final, and not 1959. Thanks for bringing it up, Sims2aholic8 has already fixed it, as I saw. --EurovisionLibrarian (talk) 20:24, 11 December 2023 (UTC)
GA review
The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
- This review is transcluded from Talk:Eurovision Song Contest 1961/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.
Nominator: Sims2aholic8 (talk · contribs) 17:56, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
Reviewer: SSSB (talk · contribs) 17:47, 10 October 2025 (UTC)
- GA review (see here for what the criteria are, and here for what they are not)
- It is reasonably well written.
- It is factually accurate and verifiable, as shown by a source spot-check.
- a (reference section):
b (inline citations to reliable sources):
c (OR):
d (copyvio and plagiarism):
- a (reference section):
- It is broad in its coverage.
- a (major aspects):
b (focused):
- a (major aspects):
- It follows the neutral point of view policy.
- Fair representation without bias:
- Fair representation without bias:
- It is stable.
- No edit wars, etc.:
- No edit wars, etc.:
- It is illustrated by images and other media, where possible and appropriate.
- a (images are tagged and non-free content have non-free use rationales):
b (appropriate use with suitable captions):
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Comments
- Article is stable, all images are appropriate. Copyvio check shows no issues. Will also double check during source spot checks. SSSB (talk) 21:10, 11 October 2025 (UTC)
- In the lead, it says "the first of an eventual five contest victories for the country." This is a WP:DATED statement as Luxembourg could win again. Therefore it should be turned into an Wikipedia:As of statement. Likewise for a similar statement in the contest overview section. SSSB (talk) 21:10, 11 October 2025 (UTC)
- I know that the voting system is explained in the Production and format section, but it would be worth reiterating it in the detailed voting results section; for the benefit of those who choose to only read certain parts of the article. SSSB (talk) 21:10, 11 October 2025 (UTC)
- "Therefore, the true meaning of the lyrics was required ..." shouldn't this be "were required"? As lyrics is plural. SSSB (talk) 21:10, 11 October 2025 (UTC)
- The sources for the first three sentences of the broadcasts section are all talking about the present day. There is nothing in those sources to indicate the same systems and set up were used in the '61 edition. SSSB (talk) 21:10, 11 October 2025 (UTC)
This article is very close to passing. There are a couple of minor issues that need fixing. Let me know when it is done and I will happily pass. SSSB (talk) 21:10, 11 October 2025 (UTC)
- @SSSB: Thank you for your review, I really appreciate you picking this up! I've made a few of the changes you suggested above; your "were required" suggestion I believe is erroneous, as this verb is actually linked to the word 'meaning', which is a concept that usually takes the singular. As for the refs in the broadcast section, we don't have access to the rules specifically for the 1961 contest at the present time, therefore I felt these refs were suitable given I tried to keep these sentences as broad as possible and they are followed by information specific to the 1961 event. Happy to work with you on this however to improve the section further. Sims2aholic8 (talk) 14:37, 15 October 2025 (UTC)
- Having read the offending sentence again, I agree that it should be "meaning [...] was required" and not "[...] lyrics were required". I'm not convinced those sources are enough. I think the first sentence in this section could be recitified by simply saying that competing broadcasters relayed the contest, without specifing that they were obligated to do so. The second and third sentences are (on closer inspection) cited suffiecently. One of the citations for the Belgian broadcast says (translated from French) "direct from Cannes, final of the Eurovision song contest 1961", which is good enough for me to prove that commentators could attend in person. Congratulations on another good article. SSSB (talk) 12:19, 18 October 2025 (UTC)
Did you know nomination
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The result was: promoted by TechnoSquirrel69 (talk) 17:31, 17 December 2025 (UTC)
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that the winning song of the Eurovision Song Contest 1961 was included in a 2020s promotional campaign by the French government to highlight and combat homophobia, biphobia and transphobia?
- ALT1: ... that the Eurovision Song Contest 1961 was the first to be held in a country and city which had already previously hosted the contest? Source: Full list of contests
- ALT2: ... that Lale Andersen, famous on both sides during World War II for her version of "Lili Marleen", represented Germany in the Eurovision Song Contest 1961? Source: Vor 50 Jahren starb "Lili Marleen"-Sängerin Lale Andersen (Fifty years ago "Lili Marleen" singer Lale Andersen died) / "Lili Marlene": the song that united Allied and Axis troops)
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Signe Salén and Template:Did you know nominations/Sabine Kirchmeier
Sims2aholic8 (talk) 14:58, 22 October 2025 (UTC).
- @Sims2aholic8: ALT0 doesn't work for two reasons; it is likely to divert the reader to the song article, and Little Black Book is not a reliable source.--Launchballer 07:06, 6 November 2025 (UTC)
- Thanks, I understand where you're coming from. I've added a new ALT which I think it possibly more interesting that ALT1. Sims2aholic8 (talk) 21:09, 8 November 2025 (UTC)