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:::: Okay, there ''is'' a point where a header is too long and descriptive, such as your above example. In that case, I still prefer "Star rookie running back becomes star of team" or "Sensational rookie becomes face of franchise". It is descriptive enough, helps with navigating the page, and is in proper context. Also, I believe "New GM begins rebuilding phase" is more appropriate because the paragraph describes kind of a "new beginning" with the youth movement and Team Teal etc. "Jaguars adopt GM model" does not infer any significance (One might ask "What's so important about the Jags getting a GM model?") And finally, I don't think the table of contents is not an issue because of the TOC limit template. '''~ [[User:Richmond96|<span style="color:blue">Richmond</span><span style="color:#FF4A00">96 </span>]]<small>[[User talk:Richmond96|<span style="color:blue">t</span>]] • [[Special:Contributions/Richmond96|<span style="color:blue">c</span>]]</small>''' 17:54, 15 January 2012 (UTC)
:::: Okay, there ''is'' a point where a header is too long and descriptive, such as your above example. In that case, I still prefer "Star rookie running back becomes star of team" or "Sensational rookie becomes face of franchise". It is descriptive enough, helps with navigating the page, and is in proper context. Also, I believe "New GM begins rebuilding phase" is more appropriate because the paragraph describes kind of a "new beginning" with the youth movement and Team Teal etc. "Jaguars adopt GM model" does not infer any significance (One might ask "What's so important about the Jags getting a GM model?") And finally, I don't think the table of contents is not an issue because of the TOC limit template. '''~ [[User:Richmond96|<span style="color:blue">Richmond</span><span style="color:#FF4A00">96 </span>]]<small>[[User talk:Richmond96|<span style="color:blue">t</span>]] • [[Special:Contributions/Richmond96|<span style="color:blue">c</span>]]</small>''' 17:54, 15 January 2012 (UTC)

:::::Given your acknowledgement that a header ''can'' be too long, I'll defer to you on this, but I would ask you--as long as you're going to employ longer headers than some of us might like--if you could maximize their navigational utility. For instance, I think MJD should be mentioned by name (or initials or nickname or some way identifying him ''personally'') for those looking for info on him. I mean, if he's worthy of inclusion in the header, let's actually include him, and not make it mysterious. (<small>''Who's'' that rookie?</small>) You think that's doable? [[Special:Contributions/98.82.34.127|98.82.34.127]] ([[User talk:98.82.34.127|talk]]) 19:27, 15 January 2012 (UTC)

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Improvement drive

National Football League is currently a candidate on WP:IDRIVE. Vote for it if you are interested!--Fenice 20:39, 10 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]

There's evidently another Dan Connolly. I'm not sure what's the best way to handle this kind of ambiguity. DanConnolly 22:08, 6 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Fixed. Pats1 03:19, 7 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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Criticism section

There's no mention of the controversial donations made by the Weaver family from the Jaguar foundation, so I'm adding the section Benwetmore (talk) 09:23, 7 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Good luck in keeping that section as part of the article. It's peripheral at best. ChargersFan (talk) 16:41, 8 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I put one in as I've just started a Jaguar Wikia. Why was it removed? There's links to the Star Wars, Star Trek, Muppets wikias, etc. on their respective pages? —Preceding unsigned comment added by LordNyax113 (talk • contribs) 20:08, 10 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose--See User:Milk's Favorite Cookie#Planned Featured Topics; there are seperate lists for every other NFL team. the_ed17 00:14, 28 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Image correction

The images of the team uniforms need to be corrected to reflect the actual coloration of the white pants' stripe colors, which are in the reverse of what they were before. Previously, they were thin black/thick teal/thin black. Now they are thin teal/thick black/thin teal. This reflects the Jaguars' trend in recent years to feature black as a primary team color, removing the stripes from the black pants, adding the black jersey, etc.  JAGUITAR  (Rawr) 15:25, 16 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Oh, yes, this needs to take effect on the 2008 season page too. I'd do it, but I dun have any image software.  JAGUITAR  (Rawr) 15:32, 16 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Does anyone know why the Jags got the first pick in the 1995 NFL Expansion Draft as well as getting to pick ahead of the Carolina Panthers in the 1995 NFL Draft? Doesn't seem very fair.--2008Olympian chitchatseemywork 04:27, 26 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The expansion draft picks were picks made by the Texans, the Jacksonville players listed there were lost by the Jaguars. The Panthers picked second en the Jags ninth in the 2002 draft basely purely in the record both achieved in the 2001 NFL season. You got your stuff mixed up DragonFury (talk) 10:54, 24 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Remove "Other notable alumni section"

I think this section should be removed. This section has has basically become a list of favorite players. And while list is very interesting, I can't see how it contributes to making the article any better. Over the next several years, I think the Jags will be placing more of a focus on their "Pride of the Jaguars" and many of the players listed in the "other notables" section will eventually find a place there (i.e. Brunell, Taylor, Smith, Brady). Are there any objections to this section's removal? --Pennsylvania Penguin (talk) 12:26, 24 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The section should be revamped by eliminating those that don't fit into the guidelines at WP:NOTED PLAYER. 2008Olympian chitchatseemywork 08:33, 26 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

It was listing far too many players who really were not important. Also, does Richard Collier deserve any mention? Bktrey —Preceding undated comment added 00:24, 4 March 2009 (UTC).[reply]

Alternate Uniforms

The black on black alternate uniform should be removed, as the Jaguars do not wear them any longer. themanbeast9 09:57, 9 December 2008 (EST) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 169.139.251.224 (talk)

Season-by-Season Schedule

The current version is superior to what was up before. Please don't revert w/o approval from other board members--fredd7271 20:39, 14 April 2009 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.1.140.188 (talk) [reply]

Approval? I'm not going to assess the edits you made, but did you seek approval before editing? What you wrote makes no sense. Enigmamsg 06:36, 13 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Approval? For starters, you should probably model this article after the Chicago Bears page, which is currently the only NFL article out of the 32 that is designated as a Wikipedia featured article. Cheers. Zzyzx11 (talk) 07:22, 13 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Team has been sold

Not sure when the change of ownership takes place exactly but the team has been sold to Shahid Khan. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shahid_Khan

source: http://jacksonville.com/sports/football/jaguars/2011-11-29/story/jack-del-rio-fired-jaguars-being-sold?page=1 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.76.231.25 (talk) 18:23, 29 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Eras?

Currently I have the article referring to different "eras" by different owners, different "tenures" of different coaches. I'm not wedded to this terminology, and if someone has some good synonyms for "era" I'd love to hear them.98.82.34.127 (talk) 01:43, 15 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I like the way you've organized it. I've been trying to rearrange it myself but I could never find the right wording. With that being said, I think we should discuss some of the header names.... ~ Richmond96 tc 02:02, 15 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]
These, specifically: "Star rookie sensation", "Dramatic quarterback change", and "Front office reorganization". Personally, I think "Rookie sensation becomes star of team (or face of franchise)", "Change at quarterback leads to playoff run", and "New GM begins rebuilding phase" are more descriptive and specific. As for their length, I don't see a problem with it. ~ Richmond96 tc 02:07, 15 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]
I agree they're more descriptive, but if that's your standard, what about this:
"Star rookie running back Maurice Jones-Drew becomes the new face of the franchise"
That's even more descriptive, isn't it? Is that what you'd want? Maybe you would, but I'm sure most editors would not favor this. While yes, it is more descriptive, headers/headlines aren't usually done this way, right? Almost always, they're shorter than sentences, partly because of stylistic norms. Another reason for keeping them short is that they show up in the table of contents. I've seen some articles on which the table of contents is a nightmare because it simply takes too long to read.
But I will admit one thing that is not good about my headers: They don't help the reader navigate if he's looking for a specific thing (such as, when did MJD join the team?) I like pithy headers, but if they don't help navigate, I admit they're not optimal. 98.82.34.127 (talk) 17:01, 15 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Okay, there is a point where a header is too long and descriptive, such as your above example. In that case, I still prefer "Star rookie running back becomes star of team" or "Sensational rookie becomes face of franchise". It is descriptive enough, helps with navigating the page, and is in proper context. Also, I believe "New GM begins rebuilding phase" is more appropriate because the paragraph describes kind of a "new beginning" with the youth movement and Team Teal etc. "Jaguars adopt GM model" does not infer any significance (One might ask "What's so important about the Jags getting a GM model?") And finally, I don't think the table of contents is not an issue because of the TOC limit template. ~ Richmond96 tc 17:54, 15 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Given your acknowledgement that a header can be too long, I'll defer to you on this, but I would ask you--as long as you're going to employ longer headers than some of us might like--if you could maximize their navigational utility. For instance, I think MJD should be mentioned by name (or initials or nickname or some way identifying him personally) for those looking for info on him. I mean, if he's worthy of inclusion in the header, let's actually include him, and not make it mysterious. (Who's that rookie?) You think that's doable? 98.82.34.127 (talk) 19:27, 15 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]
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