- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was merge to Agra. While there was some claims that the article met WP:GNG, those were completely unsubstantiated. One !keep voter actually gave way to delete by saying it can be kept as long as the attractions are notable and can be backed with reliable sources, which is not the case here. There was no counter made to the fact that this list is a probably violation of WP:NOTGUIDE. Consensus is to merge the article. (non-admin closure) ––FormalDude talk 08:49, 12 March 2022 (UTC)
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Policies violated by this page:
WP:NOTDIRECTORY "Simple listings without contextual information showing encyclopedic merit."
WP:NOTGUIDE Wikipedia is not a travel guide. We have Wikitravel for that, and many of these pages could be recreated (or already are) there.
The core content policies are: 1) neutral point of view, 2) no original research and 3) verifiability. This page violages policies 2 and 3.
WP:VERIFY What are the criteria to meet to be in the list? This page has vague or no criteria. By definition, then, there is no way to verify the inclusion or exclusion of any particular site in the list.
WP:NOR Original research "includes any analysis or synthesis of published material that serves to reach or imply a conclusion not stated by the sources. To demonstrate that you are not adding original research, you must be able to cite reliable, published sources that are directly related to the topic of the article, and directly support the material being presented." Who says that each of the items in the list are tourist attractions? Given the lack of inclusion criteria, that's understandable, as there is no need to justify being in a list that doesn't have standards for inclusion. However, that also points to original research as being the source for inclusion. — rsjaffe 🗣️ 01:29, 26 February 2022 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of India-related deletion discussions. — rsjaffe 🗣️ 01:29, 26 February 2022 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Lists-related deletion discussions. CAPTAIN RAJU(T) 01:35, 26 February 2022 (UTC)
- Keep: Passes WP:GNG. A notable topic, about an internationally popular tourist spot. Enough coverage. Venkat TL (talk) 11:45, 26 February 2022 (UTC)
- Merge to Agra#Monuments_and_architecture. Main article should have these links already Reywas92Talk 17:10, 26 February 2022 (UTC)
- Merge in Agra#Tourism separate section of tourism or architecture.— B203GTB (talk) • 14:39, 28 February 2022 (UTC)
- Redirect to Agra#Monuments and architecture: There is a perfect spot for them on the Agra page and even a nice template {{Tourist attractions in and near Agra}}. Gusfriend (talk) 05:29, 2 March 2022 (UTC)
- Keep Don't see a valid reason to delete. ArvindPalaskar (talk) — Preceding undated comment added 05:32, 3 March 2022 (UTC)
- Merge with Agra, violates WP:NOTGUIDE. Without linking to any specific section that is, since different items in the listing are relevant for different topical sections such as architecture, tourism, etc. Tayi Arajakate Talk 09:56, 3 March 2022 (UTC)
- Keep Nothing wrong with keeping the list as long as the attractions are notable and can be backed with reliable sources. I wonder why the nominator hasn't nominated List of tourist attractions in Paris for deletion. Abhishek0831996 (talk) 12:17, 3 March 2022 (UTC)
- I’ve been working alphabetically. I PRODed a set, then another user dePRODed all the India locations, so I sent these to AfD for further discussion. See the bottom of User:Rsjaffe/PROD log for list of others nominated. — rsjaffe 🗣️ 17:22, 3 March 2022 (UTC)
- I will take that with a pinch of salt .How come List of tourist attractions in Amsterdam is not yet nominated by you so far when you have gone up to D letter in case of India .There are obviously lot of extraneous considerations behind these nominations.
- You are being outrageous with unfounded accusations of bias. For example, I’ve nominated 5 lists of tourist places in the US for deletion. I demand an apology for your baseless accusations. Look at the “list of tourist locations” pages and you’ll see that certain regions have proportionately more of those lists, explaining the proportions. — rsjaffe 🗣️ 11:44, 5 March 2022 (UTC)
- I will take that with a pinch of salt .How come List of tourist attractions in Amsterdam is not yet nominated by you so far when you have gone up to D letter in case of India .There are obviously lot of extraneous considerations behind these nominations.
- I’ve been working alphabetically. I PRODed a set, then another user dePRODed all the India locations, so I sent these to AfD for further discussion. See the bottom of User:Rsjaffe/PROD log for list of others nominated. — rsjaffe 🗣️ 17:22, 3 March 2022 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Additional source analysis (particularly in the context of WP:NLIST) might be helpful in determining whether or not the content of the list is justified or if it is better to merge/redirect into Agra.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, — Mhawk10 (talk) 06:31, 5 March 2022 (UTC)
- Merge with Agra. Separate page as is not necessary. can add to main page.Akevsharma (talk) 08:50, 5 March 2022 (UTC)
- Merge with Agra. Knight Skywalker (talk) 10:34, 5 March 2022 (UTC)
- Keep The list does not breach any WP policy. Agra is one of top tourism destinations of Inia with a number of attractions including Taj Mahal.Shyamsunder (talk) 10:48, 5 March 2022 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.