Talk:1953 Iranian coup d'état


Definition of coup

The article considers the Shah's royal decree (Farman) to dismiss Mosaddegh the first coup. However, it is stated in the article that this act was legal according to Iran's constitution at that time, while Wikipedia's Coup d'état article defines a coup as an illegal act. This is a contradiction and needs to be addressed. 89.219.252.17 (talk) 07:06, 19 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I think there is a parallel with the 2014 Ukrainian revolution. It was, as I understand it, legal, but also made possible only by violence. It is a good point though. LastDodo (talk) 16:28, 27 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
"legal, but also made possible only by violence" ?? By violence is by definitionn not leagal! Parliament was stormed by US trained and led NAZIs with Kalashnikows and members of the parliament on gun point were urged to dismiss the president and provide several laws. There were video where you could see these guns.
One should think about intelligence test for writers here. Mocvd (talk) 09:41, 10 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Russian propaganda much comrade? What’s the going rate these days? Equinexus (talk) 21:13, 4 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Stop talking bullshit. Only 10 years has passed and you can't pretend your lie to overcome real facts. Only NAZI there were russian activists, who were attacking pro-ukranian citizens in Odessa, Kharkov, Donetsk, Lugansk. THOUSANDS of pro-russian Nazi arrived to Ukraine in march- april 2014 and participated in following combat actions.
Mamonthful (talk) 19:08, 27 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Please remain on topic on article talk pages. 𝓽𝓮𝔁 𞥗 𝓉𝒶𝓁𝓀 23:47, 8 January 2026 (UTC)[reply]
It was only possible by violence because Mosaddegh unlawfully resisted his completely legal and constitutional dismissal. 89.24.32.203 (talk) 11:57, 11 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The article is a biased joke. The only coup happening was attempted by Mosaddegh, and it was thwarted by the forces loyal to the shah in accordance with the constitution. 188.95.125.92 (talk) 16:24, 13 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
CIA admitted the coup themselves, so... study, maybe? Americans do not like the monster they see in the mirror. Kamamura (talk) 19:04, 18 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
The controversy here lies in the debate of whether the first "coup" attempt (August 14th) was really a coup. A coup is a
"violent and unlawful seizure of power". The firman issued by the Shah was neither violent nor illegal. The second attempt (uprising of August 19) can be defined as violent, obviously, but whether or not it was unlawful is debatable. Mossadegh had already been officially and legally dismissed from his position as Prime Minister. Because he resisted, the military forcibly removed him from his position. CIA interference is undeniable. But defining it as a "coup" is up for debate. Beanboy99 (talk) 18:34, 16 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
When foreign forces use a puppet to enact their will on a foreign population to overthrow a popularly elected leader, that is a coup. Stop your ridiculous US apologism. Even if that foreign backed autocrat (or a previous one) establishes a law that allows them to take autocratic action, that doesn't make their actions any more legitimate. As this article points out, "The Shah himself initially opposed the coup plans and supported the oil nationalization, but he joined in after being informed by the CIA that he too would be "deposed" if he didn't play along". This was the US and UK enacting their will with threats, money, and weapons, to threaten the Shah and force his hand. And the unpopularity that Mosaddegh began to face was mostly fomented by the British led blockade of Iran and the inteligence assets in Iran that were fomenting discord. Aiddog10 (talk) 02:39, 18 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
The Shah held the authority to dismiss the Prime Minister as granted during the 1949 Constituent Assembly. In that capacity he was able to dismiss Mossadegh and the US/UK aided him in enacting that legal power. For there to have been a coup, there needed to have been an illegal act. What was the illegal act that caused a transfer in power? Outerspace2921 (talk) 14:35, 22 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Are surprised? its Wikipedia, lol ~2026-15322-70 (talk) 08:52, 11 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]
"A violent and unlawful seizure of power". The first coup attempt was neither violent nor illegal, as it consisted of a CIA-backed firman from the Shah that was completely legal under the Iranian constitution at the time. Beanboy99 (talk) 18:28, 16 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Spelling is inconsistent

Why are both the spellings "Mossadegh" and "Mosaddegh" used -- sometimes in the same paragraph? ~2025-31208-44 (talk) 20:27, 3 January 2026 (UTC)[reply]

National Front Leader

Sentence under the heading "Bloody suppression of the opposition" states that Adib Boroumand is the current leader of the National Front of Iran, but he has been dead since 2017 and the most recent chairman (from what I can surmise from linked sources) is Seyed Hossein Mousavian (physician). ~2026-22778-5 (talk) 18:02, 11 January 2026 (UTC)[reply]

Wiki Education assignment: Global Cold War

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Audio Pronunciation

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Parliament dissolution in the lead

Considering that the purpose of the lead is to summarize the most important points of the article, should the lead mention Mossadegh's parliament-dissolution referendum? After all, the article calls it "one of many key factors" leading to the coup. ~2026-14823-11 (talk) 10:34, 8 March 2026 (UTC)[reply]

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