July 16
Category:Royal National Institute for the Blind alumni
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- The result of the discussion was: delete HouseBlaster (talk · he/they) 01:22, 24 July 2024 (UTC)
- Propose deleting Category:Royal National Institute for the Blind alumni ( | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
- Nominator's rationale: This is a charity which, as far as I can tell, supports blind people but isn't a school. In any case, there is only one article in here. Omnis Scientia (talk) 23:48, 16 July 2024 (UTC)
- Delete, just one article in the category is not helpful for navigation. The charity seems to run a school though. Marcocapelle (talk) 04:49, 17 July 2024 (UTC)
- Ah alright. That makes sense. Omnis Scientia (talk) 07:10, 17 July 2024 (UTC)
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Category:Irish blind musicians
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Category:Survivors of the attempted assassination of Donald Trump
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- The result of the discussion was: delete HouseBlaster (talk · he/they) 01:50, 24 July 2024 (UTC)
- Propose deleting Category:Survivors of the attempted assassination of Donald Trump ( | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
- Nominator's rationale: Per WP:NOTDEFINING. I don't see how being a survivor of this particular shooting is a defining characteristic of these individuals, as they were all notable prior to the shooting taking place. Di (they-them) (talk) 17:27, 16 July 2024 (UTC)
- Delete per nom. Omnis Scientia (talk) 18:28, 16 July 2024 (UTC)
- Delete per nom. 🪐Kepler-1229b | talk | contribs🪐 04:46, 17 July 2024 (UTC)
- Delete per nom. Omnis Scientia (talk) 18:28, 16 July 2024 (UTC)
- Delete per nomination. NotAGenious (talk) 17:34, 16 July 2024 (UTC)
- Delete: Agree per the nomination and would like to add that the category sounds to me like these people survived getting shot rather than having been present at the event, so if this is kept, I would modify the category to something clearer like "People present at the attempted assassination of Donald Trump". Upjav (talk) 20:21, 16 July 2024 (UTC)
- Delete per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 04:53, 17 July 2024 (UTC)
- Delete I don't know what the creator of the category was thinking. Super Ψ Dro 09:42, 17 July 2024 (UTC)
- Delete per nom. However, the category creator might just not know how categories work. Mason (talk) 13:30, 17 July 2024 (UTC)
- I know how categories work, just thought survivors don't have to be injured, Move to something like "People present at the attempted assassination of Donald Trump" per Upjav. - Sebbog13 (talk) 15:01, 21 July 2024 (UTC)
- Delete per nom. However, the category creator might just not know how categories work. Mason (talk) 13:30, 17 July 2024 (UTC)
- Delete. ---Another Believer (Talk) 16:55, 20 July 2024 (UTC)
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Category:Wander Over Yonder
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- The result of the discussion was: delete HouseBlaster (talk · he/they) 01:50, 24 July 2024 (UTC)
- Propose deleting Category:Wander Over Yonder ( | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
- Nominator's rationale: Only contains two articles. No good merge targets. (Oinkers42) (talk) 16:53, 16 July 2024 (UTC)
- Delete, the articles are already directly interlinked. Marcocapelle (talk) 20:12, 16 July 2024 (UTC)
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History of Brussels by period
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- The result of the discussion was: delete HouseBlaster (talk · he/they) 01:50, 24 July 2024 (UTC)
- Propose deleting Category:Austrian Brussels
- Propose deleting Category:Dutch Brussels
- Propose deleting Category:French Brussels
- Propose deleting Category:Habsburg Brussels
- Propose deleting Category:Reginar Brussels
- Propose deleting Category:Spanish Brussels
- Nominator's rationale: delete, this part of the history of Brussels tree overlaps entirely with Category:Centuries in Brussels, furthermore it is highly inaccurate. For example the Dutch period lasted only from 1815 to 1830 but the whole 19th century has been put under it. Marcocapelle (talk) 14:24, 16 July 2024 (UTC)
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Category:Quota reform protest in Bangladesh
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- The result of the discussion was: merge HouseBlaster (talk · he/they) 01:50, 24 July 2024 (UTC)
- Nominator's rationale: Same category. Mehedi Abedin 06:21, 16 July 2024 (UTC)
- Merge per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 10:04, 16 July 2024 (UTC)
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Category:Villains in mythology and legend
Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 July 24#Category:Villains in mythology and legend
Category:Decades in the Colony of Virginia
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Category:Current roller hockey seasons
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- The result of the discussion was: delete. HouseBlaster (talk · he/they) 01:52, 24 July 2024 (UTC)
- Propose deleting Category:Current roller hockey seasons ( | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
- Nominator's rationale: Empty and not enough possible articles to justify it as a subcat to "current sporting seasons". Pelmeen10 (talk) 03:04, 16 July 2024 (UTC)
- @Pelmeen10: if you found it empty then you could have tagged it as empty. If you emptied the category yourself then please mention what you removed. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:21, 16 July 2024 (UTC)
- It was empty, I have no clue when was it last populated. Pelmeen10 (talk) 12:22, 16 July 2024 (UTC)
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Category:Boxing matches at Madison Square Garden
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- The result of the discussion was: keep. HouseBlaster (talk · he/they) 01:56, 24 July 2024 (UTC)
- Propose merging Category:Boxing matches at Madison Square Garden to Category:Boxing matches in New York City and Category:Sports competitions in Manhattan
- Propose merging Category:Boxing matches at Boardwalk Hall to Category:Boxing matches in Atlantic City, New Jersey
- Propose merging Category:Boxing matches at Caesars Palace to Category:Boxing matches in the Las Vegas Valley
- Propose merging Category:Boxing matches at the Las Vegas Hilton to Category:Boxing matches in the Las Vegas Valley
- Propose merging Category:Boxing matches at Manchester Arena to Category:Boxing matches in Manchester
- Propose merging Category:Boxing matches at Mandalay Bay Events Center to Category:Boxing matches in the Las Vegas Valley
- Propose merging Category:Boxing matches at MGM Grand Garden Arena to Category:Boxing matches in the Las Vegas Valley
- Propose merging Category:Boxing matches at Staples Center to Category:Boxing matches in Los Angeles
- Propose merging Category:Boxing matches at Caesars Palace to Category:Boxing matches in the Las Vegas Valley
- Propose merging Category:Boxing matches at T-Mobile Arena to Category:Boxing matches in the Las Vegas Valley and Category:Sports competitions in Paradise, Nevada
- Propose merging Category:Boxing matches at Thomas & Mack Center to Category:Boxing matches in the Las Vegas Valley
- Propose merging Category:Boxing matches at The O2 Arena to Category:Boxing matches in London
- Propose merging Category:Boxing matches at Wembley Stadium to Category:Boxing matches in London
.:* Propose merging Category:Boxing matches at Wembley Arena to Category:Boxing matches in London
- Nominator's rationale: Per the recent discussion and WP:OCVENUE. User:Namiba 16:14, 8 July 2024 (UTC)
- Strongly oppose Removing these Categories will severely overpopulate the populated place pages User:Sam11333 16:37, 8 July 2024 (UTC)
- The only one to which that might apply is the Las Vegas Valley and even that won't be massive.--User:Namiba 16:51, 8 July 2024 (UTC)
- I don't think there is any doubt on that one!
- I can't see the logic in removing the venue categories, given that WP:OCVENUE states that "categories that indicate how a specific facility is regularly used in a specific and notable way" can be appropriate. I would argue that a boxing match falls under that description. Sam11333 (talk) 17:03, 8 July 2024 (UTC)
- Including these arenas in the boxing venues category is fine. But OCVENUE and the recent consensus I've cited is very clear "avoid categorizing events by their hosting locations".--User:Namiba
- Tagging editors who commented on the most recent discussion User:Marcocapelle, User:Omnis Scientia, User:Epicgenius, User:Flibirigit.--User:Namiba 19:19, 11 July 2024 (UTC)
- Including these arenas in the boxing venues category is fine. But OCVENUE and the recent consensus I've cited is very clear "avoid categorizing events by their hosting locations".--User:Namiba
- The only one to which that might apply is the Las Vegas Valley and even that won't be massive.--User:Namiba 16:51, 8 July 2024 (UTC)
- Strongly oppose Removing these Categories will severely overpopulate the populated place pages User:Sam11333 16:37, 8 July 2024 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, HouseBlaster (talk · he/they) 02:41, 16 July 2024 (UTC)
- Merge, the guideline is clear about this and the category isn't like Category:NBA venues for which is an exception is being made. Marcocapelle (talk) 10:08, 16 July 2024 (UTC)
- I would argue that Boxing matches are inherently more notable as events than sports where the same teams play each other very year. Sam11333 (talk) 10:32, 19 July 2024 (UTC)
- No one is arguing that boxing matches should not have articles.--User:Namiba 12:31, 19 July 2024 (UTC)
- I would argue that Boxing matches are inherently more notable as events than sports where the same teams play each other very year. Sam11333 (talk) 10:32, 19 July 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose per comments at the previous CfD for two of these categories. The guideline has no rational basis. Venue is a perfectly logical way to diffuse categories of boxing matches by city, just as categories of boxing matches by state and country are diffused into cities. Toohool (talk) 19:48, 20 July 2024 (UTC)
- Tagging editors who commented on the previous CfD User:RevelationDirect, User:Rlendog Sam11333 (talk) 08:20, 23 July 2024 (UTC)
- Comment After this nomination closes, it might be worth having a conversation about the 2nd paragraph of the WP:OCVENUE editing guideline. I really see the risk of category clutter coming from something like adding every venue to Taylor Swift's The Eras Tour. (Although the same clutter is happening to that article by listing every country in what was a global event, so there might be some fine tuning needed for WP:OCLOCATION as well.) - RevelationDirect (talk) 12:30, 23 July 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose Practically, these diffuse what would otherwise be unwieldly larger city/metro categories and ease navigation and don't add to the number of categories under an article. From an editing guideline perspective, WP:OCVENUE is discouraging unwieldly large venue categories which is accomplished by breaking these down by individual sport, boxing in this case. With MSG and the Boardwalk Hall in particular, these are known as the pre-eminent boxing venues and the location is clearly defining. - RevelationDirect (talk) 12:30, 23 July 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose per Sam11333 and RevelationDirect. Perhaps some of these venues are not defining for boxing matches, and those can be handled individually based on their own circumstances, but many are. Rlendog (talk) 12:45, 23 July 2024 (UTC)
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Category:Constitutionalism
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- The result of the discussion was: delete. HouseBlaster (talk · he/they) 01:56, 24 July 2024 (UTC)
- Propose merging Category:Constitutionalism to Category:Constitutional law
- Nominator's rationale: Duplicate category. The category creator really needs to slow down with the creation of narrow/non-defining categories. Mason (talk) 23:44, 8 July 2024 (UTC)
- Merge or delete per nom. I am not sure of the merge target, hence deletion may be an option too. I added links between the two articles in the "See also" sections. Marcocapelle (talk) 04:45, 9 July 2024 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Thoughts on deletion?
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, HouseBlaster (talk · he/they) 02:40, 16 July 2024 (UTC)- I'm fine with deletion. (I struggled to pick a merge target. But I try to always at least propose one)Mason (talk) 13:31, 17 July 2024 (UTC)
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Category:Counts of Geneva
Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 July 24#Category:Counts of Geneva
Category:Bedouin businesspeople
Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 July 24#Category:Bedouin businesspeople
Category:Brainwashing theory proponents
Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 July 24#Category:Brainwashing theory proponents
Category:Video games with expansion packs
Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 July 24#Category:Video games with expansion packs
Category:Palestinian bedouins
Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 July 24#Category:Palestinian bedouins
Category:19th-century feminists
Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 July 24#Category:19th-century feminists