The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was Keep as withdrawn. Discussion pertaining to merging or redirecting can conclude on articles talk page. — _Maggot^Syn 11:38, 24 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Sausage bun (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) (delete) – (View log)

Contested redirect to Hot dog. Non-notable variant of the American Hot dog the contents of which can be said in one line in said article. Nothing notable about its "Chineseness" either except its lack of sources. Ohconfucius (talk) 14:39, 22 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

There is no reason why Pigs in a blanket is not nominated for deletion, but the Sausage bun is. Also this it is quite "Anglo" to classify all similar food under the American umbrella. That is not how Wikiproject food functions. What next??? Every dish that uses salt should be in the same article. Benjwong (talk) 15:02, 22 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

• Speedy keep - This is a quite distinct Cantonese food item and the proposer does not properly make his/her case for deletion of this article. Badagnani (talk) 16:50, 22 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

• Comment I believe I could have had this speedied. There is not that much distinctive about this item, and furthermore no assertion of notability. Ohconfucius (talk) 02:01, 23 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

• Keep Ok this is a complete contradiction. How can the same person claim this food has no notability, yet also claim it is basically the same as American hot dog. Either "both are notable" or "both are nothing". Otherwise you are making the claim that somehow the Chinese-version sausage bun is nothing, and the American-version hotdog is everything. Believe me, if it was 90% identical to its western counterpart, it would have moved to the western food page. See swiss roll for example. Benjwong (talk) 03:24, 23 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

• Comment - I'm not going to carry on filibustering, but at the risk of sounding repetitive, there is noting 'substantially different' about the topic, and your article fails to make a case for it. Ohconfucius (talk) 03:49, 23 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
• This AfD nomination was incomplete. It is listed now. DumbBOT (talk) 12:55, 23 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

• Keep This is a distinctive food, found widely in Hong Kong. The article is not particularly well written, granted, but the subject deserves a place. docboat (talk) 13:00, 23 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
• Merge & Redirect to hot dog as a Chinese variant. DCEdwards¹⁹⁶⁶ 16:15, 23 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
• Redirect - That kind of bun is widely sold in South Korean and Japan, not to mention of US and any Europe. I don't think the bun is indigenous or distinctive only to Hong Kong and its bakery technique started spread to East Asia. If it used "Chinese sausage", that would be the only uniqueness. Well, then redirect to pigs in a blanket with a brief description on the variant.--Caspian blue (talk) 16:44, 23 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
• Comment I don't want to be a bring down here, but regardless of how distinct the food item may be, the article has literally no citations or sources of any kind. As it stands, notability and verifibility have not been established, and irrespective of any anecdotal evidence provided in the discussion, regardless of how true it may be, without reliable sources the article cannot stand.Calgary (talk) 19:28, 23 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

• Stop the vote We need to resolve the "Ohconfucius"/Chinese food problems before continuing with these AfDs. Raymie Humbert (TrackerTV) (receiver, archives) 22:33, 23 June 2008 (UTC) Raymie Humbert (TrackerTV) (receiver, archives) 22:33, 23 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
• Note: This debate has been included in the list of Food and drink-related deletion discussions. -- Fabrictramp | talk to me 23:35, 23 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep - although i think this stub should be part of a larger article on dim sum, it is at least notable enough to exist on Wikipedia as it is a cultural significant dish.--Chef Tanner (talk) 00:53, 24 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
• Withdraw In response to Raymie Humbert (TrackerTV)'s suggestion, and as a gesture of goodwill, I would withdraw this nomination. I would ask the creator and other staunch defender(s) of the article to please fix the problems of the article, instead of indulging in character assassination to defend the article. Looking back, I guess I could have been more communicative. Nevertheless, I really object to being portrayed as the bogeyman and philistine in this. Ohconfucius (talk) 01:59, 24 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

  Why can't you try to fix it as well? SashaNein (talk) 03:30, 24 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.