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The result was delete‎. Guerillero ^{Parlez Moi} 08:15, 21 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Repost of content previously deleted and salted per Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/European Association of Aerospace Students * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 20:45, 17 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

• Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Organizations and Netherlands. Shellwood (talk) 21:06, 17 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
• Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Education, Engineering, and Aviation. WCQuidditch ☎ ✎ 21:16, 17 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete. Failing NORG. gidonb (talk) 04:43, 24 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

See deeper discussion by others and me, based on policies and guidelines, below. gidonb (talk) 01:11, 15 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: This article has existed since 2017 and the previous AfD was in 2010. Can we get a full search for recent sources?
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, asilvering (talk) 00:07, 25 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

• Euroavia is an international body of aeronautics students, one of its chief aims being "to foster a spirit of co-operation among the future members of the aircraft industry".

  — Royal Aero Club of the United Kingdom (1964). Flight: The Aircraft Engineer. Vol. 86. IPC Transport Press Limited. p. 311.

  Euroavia is the Association of European Aeronautical Students, founded in Aachen in 1959, to foster social, cultural and professional links between students and thus engineers in Europe.

  — "Euroavia rides again!". Aerospace. Vol. 8. Royal Aeronautical Society. 1981. p. 5.

  Maybe it is the looking for recent sources in the World Wide Web for something founded in 1959 that is the problem. I can source that introductory sentence from 2 sources, which can replace the non-independent sources used for the same in this article. There appears to be non-English sourcing that should be investigated, too. There's something of some sort in a 1959 issue of Flugwelt. I suggest checking out the old aerospace industry magazines. Uncle G (talk) 09:03, 25 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Owen× ☎ 18:03, 4 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

1.  https://biblus.us.es/bibing/proyectos/abreproy/92389/fichero/TFG-2389-LORA.pdf

2. https://arc.aiaa.org/doi/abs/10.2514/6.IAC-06-E4.P.01

3. https://uia.org/s/or/en/1100001357

Any of these useful? 2A02:587:870F:5D7D:E1D9:BBEE:79D9:C4C1 (talk) 15:28, 8 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Item #2 probably counts towards NORG. What I miss is extensive coverage in the news media. I will strike my delete, so not stand in the way of any decision. gidonb (talk) 17:01, 11 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Found some more, not sure if they do

https://pace.txtgroup.com/future-innovators-awards-2025

https://aerospace.technion.ac.il/news/euroavia-takes-to-the-sky/

https://www.esa.int/Science_Exploration/Human_and_Robotic_Exploration/Exploration/Euroavia_students_design_Martian_aerial_vehicle

https://studyportals.com/student-associations/

https://nip.rs/en/news/1708-student-team-beoavia-winner-of-airbus-sloshing-rocket-workshop-2022-

https://www.athens-science-festival.gr/en/exhibitions/euroavia-athens/

https://blogs.mathworks.com/student-lounge/2024/11/18/how-the-airbus-sloshing-rocket-workshop-can-help-launch-your-aerospace-career/

There are these documents that hold legality, do they count?

https://euroavia.eu/documents/ 2A02:587:870F:5D7D:FCC0:B5BA:80D6:7828 (talk) 19:41, 12 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

• I agree with @Gidonb: after a search, I can't find extensive coverage in the news media. Searching the Wikipedia Library yields zero results for the "European Association of Aerospace Students." It is in several books in the Google Book Search but the results seem to show only directories and other things that are not WP:SIGCOV. If this article is deleted, I don't think salting is necessary. - tucoxn\^talk 17:15, 12 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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EUROVIA Magazine 8th issue 2024: https://euroavia.eu/wp-content/uploads/2024/11/EUROAVIA-Magazine-Issue-8-Digital-Version-1_compressed.pdf

Preview of the EUROAVIA History Book to celebrate 65 years of historyhttps://www.linkedin.com/posts/euroavia_euroavias-history-book-review-activity-7192120110709415936-Lu3E?utm_source=share&utm_medium=member_desktop&rcm=ACoAACzlUsABqbVddr5SLgPisfojgPaOIPBBCBY 2A02:587:870F:5D7D:3582:405A:2A66:63E8 (talk) 17:03, 13 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Primary sources are useless for establishing notability. * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 18:01, 13 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

EUROAVIA is a notable international association, fostering aerospace education and innovation across Europe founded in 1959, with over 32 local groups in 17 countries, fostering aerospace education and innovation across Europe. (https://arc.aiaa.org/doi/abs/10.2514/6.IAC-06-E4.P.01)

It has been involved in significant aerospace projects, including:

• A collaborative project with ESA on designing a Martian UAV (ESA, 2023).
• Recognition from the Council of European Aerospace Societies (CEAS Bulletin).
• Sponsorships and partnerships with prominent aerospace companies, like Beta-CAE (Beta-CAE) and Airbus: Airbus Sloshing Rocket Workshop (NIP Serbia), MathWorks: https://blogs.mathworks.com/student-lounge/2024/11/18/how-the-airbus-sloshing-rocket-workshop-can-help-launch-your-aerospace-career/ and PACE txt group: https://pace.txtgroup.com/future-innovators-awards-2025
• The organization also participates in prominent academic and science events, such as the Athens Science Festival.
• There are minor mentions in the local News:
  • Victory of Forlì Students in Airbus Workshop
  • Forlì Team at the Airbus Workshop
  • Forlì Team Wins at European Rotors
  • First Rocket Workshop in Naples (Unina Rocket)
  • Unina Rocket Workshop Launch
  • Unina Corse Event
  • ESA and Alter Technology – Space Technology Conference in Seville
  • Activities at Mesolongi Airport
  • 27th Forum Anaptixis Aerospace Conference
  • Red Bull Paper Wings Event in Athens
  • NTUA Students Building Innovative Projects

There are also the sources mentioned above by Uncle G

I recommend retaining the article. 147.102.131.173 (talk) 15:51, 14 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I frankly do not see it. Not here. Not in my search using BEFORE and NEXIST. I see one conference paper, and I am not being difficult—I will fully accept it as counting towards notability. The rest consists of primary sources or lacks in-depth coverage. These can be used to reference data in the article but do not count towards notability. gidonb (talk) 01:11, 15 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete Looking at the sources available, this clearly does not pass WP:NORG. SportingFlyer T·C 11:47, 20 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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