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The result was delete. kurykh 07:23, 30 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Ayako Saso (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View log • AfD statistics)

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Long standing unreferenced blp of non-notable video game musician. Deprodded twice by an editor who couldn't source or demonstrate notability either. Part of a walled garden of unsourced, unmaintained blps. Bali ultimate (talk) 12:55, 22 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

• Note: This debate has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions. —J04n(talk page) 13:53, 22 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
• Note: This debate has been included in the list of video game related deletion discussions. MrKIA11 (talk) 15:35, 22 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete No significant coverage found in searches, aside from Square Enix's site, which is really a primary source. --Teancum (talk) 19:28, 22 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete per nom and above. nothing much there. Jack Merridew 23:50, 22 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Personally I really have no idea how well-known Ayako Saso is since I don’t live in Japan. Her name (佐宗綾子) gets nearly 50k hits on Google, and she has an article in the Japanese Wikipedia (http://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/佐宗綾子) although I appreciate that there are different rules for different versions of Wikipedia. If other people don’t think she is very well-known, I’m happy for the article to be deleted, although if no one here lives in Japan, how can they say? Does someone have to be WORLD famous to be included in Wikipedia, or is fame in one's home country enough? Grand Dizzy (talk) 15:42, 25 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Need to pass WP:BIO, in this specific instance either WP:CREATIVE or WP:MUSIC.Bali ultimate (talk)`

• DELETE. Christ this is just one ridiculously huge WP:WALLEDGARDEN. Burn it with fire. JBsupreme (talk) 22:11, 28 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
• Note: This debate has been included in the list of Japan-related deletion discussions. -- Pcap ping 22:52, 28 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
• Neutral. Google news search for her Japanese name [1] finds some sources, but too few to say this is someone well-known. The article is entirely supported by this source, but I'm not familiar enough with video game or electronic music to say if she passes WP:COMPOSER; she did win a prize though. I don't understand why you guys say that the source is WP:PRIMARY; that bio is clearly not written by her, although the reliability of the site is something I can't comment on. Pcap ping 22:56, 28 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • It's primary-source because it's published by one of her labels, who has a vested interest in promoting her. While that source can be used to verify certain facts, because it's first-party (a better term in this case) it cannot demonstrate notability. —Quasirandom (talk) 04:30, 29 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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