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Any chance you could tackle #9 and #10? Convert {{cite journal}} with |journal=biorxiv to {{cite biorxiv}}, and convert {{cite biorxiv}} to {{cite journal}} if the preprint has been fully published? Headbomb {t · c · p · b} 20:07, 3 January 2026 (UTC)
- I'll be honest, thats going to be a maybe. I'm not sure if I can manage the complexity of this with my current (although improved) skills. I can ask GitHub Copilot to propose a suggestion for the code, and see if I feel comfortable implemeting that. Redalert2fan (talk) 11:36, 4 January 2026 (UTC)
- You may want to look at the code that converts {{cite arxiv}} to {{cite journal}} for inspiration. Headbomb {t · c · p · b} 15:36, 4 January 2026 (UTC)
- Could you put a few more example of references that need the requested conversions for #9 in User:Redalert2fan/sandbox3 and for #10 in User:Redalert2fan/sandbox4? That way I have something extra to test on. Redalert2fan (talk) 16:08, 4 January 2026 (UTC)
- Done Headbomb {t · c · p · b} 16:54, 4 January 2026 (UTC)
- Thanks, I will take a look. Redalert2fan (talk) 17:50, 4 January 2026 (UTC)
- for Request 9 : Convert {{cite journal}} with
|journal=biorxivto {{cite biorxiv}}, I think I have it working in testing (not live yet) for biorxiv. But only for cite journal. If I set it also to run on citation it fully crashes the bot, and I've spend a few days investigating and trying completely different ways but I can't find the problem, never seen something like that before Redalert2fan (talk) 21:28, 7 January 2026 (UTC)- Well, that's better than nothing! Headbomb {t · c · p · b} 11:22, 8 January 2026 (UTC)
- Let me know when it goes live? Headbomb {t · c · p · b} 04:11, 10 January 2026 (UTC)
- It its live for biorxiv. will work on medrxiv next. Redalert2fan (talk) 12:25, 11 January 2026 (UTC)
- I've purged the WP:JCW/B24#BioRxiv ~600 or so cite journals with journal=bioRxiv in them btw. Thanks a bunch for this.
- Looking forward to the medrxiv update. Or the preprint to cite journal update if that's feasable. Headbomb {t · c · p · b} 23:27, 11 January 2026 (UTC)
- medrxiv should not take too long since it's really just a copy of the biorxiv code. Just need to double check it since we did not do any handling of medrxiv before, while we did do minor handling of biorxiv. Will also make sure it is correctly capitalized as medRxiv in one go. You can expect that within a few days.
- preprint to cite journal I haven't looked into yet, I will prioritize bug fixes first since the talk page still has too much reports on it and I think it's fair to try and process those first. But I'll keep it on the list of things to do as a priority. Redalert2fan (talk) 23:50, 11 January 2026 (UTC)
- medrxiv should be up and running. Redalert2fan (talk) 21:54, 13 January 2026 (UTC)
- Purged the medrxiv ones too. There were less of them, about ~50 or so.
- Looking forward to biorxiv/medrxiv to cite journals if/when you can manage that one. That would be pretty high impact (up to ~1200 articles). Headbomb {t · c · p · b} 06:32, 15 January 2026 (UTC)
- This is turning out a little more complex than first expected. Normally we use the crossref API for this but that doesn't contain the data we need to find out if it was a preprint and has been published for most biorxiv/medrxiv cases. Therefore, we need to implement the biorxiv API to ensure we reliably get the data. I'm working on it but this is why its taking a bit longer. Redalert2fan (talk) 10:53, 25 January 2026 (UTC)
- Glad to know it's been worked on, but yes this is a new API. Headbomb {t · c · p · b} 17:02, 25 January 2026 (UTC)
- [1] Remember to TNT the date here at the very least. Headbomb {t · c · p · b} 22:41, 25 January 2026 (UTC)
- Running the bot again on the same page gives no changes - if there was anything wrong with the conversion not calling the full journal process then we would have gotten a change. This means that the basic function of the bot doesn't detect that there is something wrong.
- But if I'm understanding correctly, we should drop the date that is originally present and replace it with the new publication one right? Redalert2fan (talk) 22:50, 25 January 2026 (UTC)
- Yes the preprint and final publication won't have the same date. Authors are often refined/re-ordered too, but that may cause more trouble that not with author styles. I personally would TNT them, but I can also restyle them easily. Unlike the bot, which might struggle with keeping the same author style. Headbomb {t · c · p · b} 22:55, 25 January 2026 (UTC)
- Copied, working on a fix for the date. If the authors were not restyled by the bot (like in these examples) it can't convert them right now using the existing code. We could also drop all authors during the conversion and rely on info from the new DOI but no guarantees that it will be in the same style or that we get the same authors back. It would be nice to have, but I'd prefer not to accidentally expand the list of bug reports. Redalert2fan (talk) 23:11, 25 January 2026 (UTC)
- date (or year) should be adjusted correctly now. Redalert2fan (talk) 00:08, 26 January 2026 (UTC)
- Yes the preprint and final publication won't have the same date. Authors are often refined/re-ordered too, but that may cause more trouble that not with author styles. I personally would TNT them, but I can also restyle them easily. Unlike the bot, which might struggle with keeping the same author style. Headbomb {t · c · p · b} 22:55, 25 January 2026 (UTC)
- With some final touches from AManWithNoPlan it is now live, and passed all internal tests. I've ran it on my sandbox and the basic function seems to be working as expected. Redalert2fan (talk) 22:43, 25 January 2026 (UTC)
- Biorxiv only or both biorxiv/medrxiv? Headbomb {t · c · p · b} 00:31, 26 January 2026 (UTC)
- It should work for both, but if nothing happens for medrxiv please let me know Redalert2fan (talk) 00:38, 26 January 2026 (UTC)
- I ran against every cite biorxiv I could find and this slashed it performance roughly 400 converstions out of roughly 1050 pages. This was suuuuuuuuper useful. Now to tackle cite medrxiv. Headbomb {t · c · p · b} 13:50, 26 January 2026 (UTC)
- Seems to all be there now, might be worth to run it again on all the pages because there were some other fixes and now even more should be converted. However the cosmetic "R" caps will probably pop up a few more times if run on pages that were already changed untill that is fixed. Redalert2fan (talk) 22:56, 26 January 2026 (UTC)
- Cosmetic R thing was done on all pages where it could have been done, so right now everything's at bioRxiv.
- But I'll run again to see if it catches more. Headbomb {t · c · p · b} 01:51, 27 January 2026 (UTC)
- Yup it's catching a lot more. Cite medrxiv went from 178 to 159 the first time, and now are below 100 uses. The invoke bug is also fixed. Thanks a bunch for the hard work, I've waited for years for this. Headbomb {t · c · p · b} 02:23, 27 January 2026 (UTC)
- Great to hear! Redalert2fan (talk) 17:43, 27 January 2026 (UTC)
- Yup it's catching a lot more. Cite medrxiv went from 178 to 159 the first time, and now are below 100 uses. The invoke bug is also fixed. Thanks a bunch for the hard work, I've waited for years for this. Headbomb {t · c · p · b} 02:23, 27 January 2026 (UTC)
- Seems to all be there now, might be worth to run it again on all the pages because there were some other fixes and now even more should be converted. However the cosmetic "R" caps will probably pop up a few more times if run on pages that were already changed untill that is fixed. Redalert2fan (talk) 22:56, 26 January 2026 (UTC)
- I ran against every cite biorxiv I could find and this slashed it performance roughly 400 converstions out of roughly 1050 pages. This was suuuuuuuuper useful. Now to tackle cite medrxiv. Headbomb {t · c · p · b} 13:50, 26 January 2026 (UTC)
- It should work for both, but if nothing happens for medrxiv please let me know Redalert2fan (talk) 00:38, 26 January 2026 (UTC)
- Biorxiv only or both biorxiv/medrxiv? Headbomb {t · c · p · b} 00:31, 26 January 2026 (UTC)
- [1] Remember to TNT the date here at the very least. Headbomb {t · c · p · b} 22:41, 25 January 2026 (UTC)
- Glad to know it's been worked on, but yes this is a new API. Headbomb {t · c · p · b} 17:02, 25 January 2026 (UTC)
- This is turning out a little more complex than first expected. Normally we use the crossref API for this but that doesn't contain the data we need to find out if it was a preprint and has been published for most biorxiv/medrxiv cases. Therefore, we need to implement the biorxiv API to ensure we reliably get the data. I'm working on it but this is why its taking a bit longer. Redalert2fan (talk) 10:53, 25 January 2026 (UTC)
- It its live for biorxiv. will work on medrxiv next. Redalert2fan (talk) 12:25, 11 January 2026 (UTC)
- Let me know when it goes live? Headbomb {t · c · p · b} 04:11, 10 January 2026 (UTC)
- Well, that's better than nothing! Headbomb {t · c · p · b} 11:22, 8 January 2026 (UTC)
- Done Headbomb {t · c · p · b} 16:54, 4 January 2026 (UTC)
- Could you put a few more example of references that need the requested conversions for #9 in User:Redalert2fan/sandbox3 and for #10 in User:Redalert2fan/sandbox4? That way I have something extra to test on. Redalert2fan (talk) 16:08, 4 January 2026 (UTC)
- You may want to look at the code that converts {{cite arxiv}} to {{cite journal}} for inspiration. Headbomb {t · c · p · b} 15:36, 4 January 2026 (UTC)
A barnstar for you!
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| For your work on Citation bot related to the handling of {{cite biorxiv}}/{{cite medrxiv}} and related issues. Headbomb {t · c · p · b} 02:24, 27 January 2026 (UTC) |
- Thanks, I can't take all the credit by myself though, send some thanks to AManWithNoPlan as well! Redalert2fan (talk) 17:44, 27 January 2026 (UTC)
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