Talk:I Don't Wanna Live Forever
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Requested move 9 December 2016
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The result of the move request was: not moved. (non-admin closure) JudgeRM (talk to me) 18:39, 16 December 2016 (UTC)
I Don't Wanna Live Forever → I Don't Wanna Live Forever (Fifty Shades Darker) – Full title of song, and instead of speedy-deleting the full title's namespace to make room for the move, thinking it could be moved by an admin. Ss112 18:22, 9 December 2016 (UTC)
- This is a contested technical request (permalink). Anthony Appleyard (talk) 19:40, 9 December 2016 (UTC)
- But is that common name? Many news sources just refer to it as 'I Don't Wanna Live Forever'. Fuortu (talk) 19:12, 9 December 2016 (UTC)
- @Ss112 and Fuortu: Queried page move request. Anthony Appleyard (talk) 19:40, 9 December 2016 (UTC)
- I want to make sure we know the proper name before we move anything. Other than iTunes, there aren't too many places adding (Fifty Shades Darker). Kellymoat (talk) 19:52, 9 December 2016 (UTC)
- The proper name of the song is clearly "I Don't Wanna Live Forever (Fifty Shades Darker)", the single cover clearly denotes this with the subtitle appearing in parentheses, and the song is also listed this way on iTunes. I think it's too soon to make a COMMONNAME argument since the song just came out. In the meantime, we should default to the official title. Chase (talk | contributions) 19:56, 9 December 2016 (UTC)
- Whoa, this happened quickly in my name when I only took it to WP:RM/TR. I only suggested this because I saw I Don't Wanna Live Forever (Fifty Shades Darker) tagged for speedy deletion in order to move the page and I thought "well, this might end up happening anyway". I don't really care either way. I was actually thinking that Earned It technically had/has the subtitle "Fifty Shades of Grey", but that was left out of the namespace for it. Ss112 19:58, 9 December 2016 (UTC)
- "Earned It" was a little more complicated, as the single cover didn't clearly show whether "(Fifty Shades of Grey)" was a part of the title, and it would sometimes be listed on iTunes/Spotify other outlets without the subtitle, depending on where you looked. And the Academy Awards, a year later, nominated it without the subtitle. This Swift/Zayn song title seems to be more clear-cut. Chase (talk | contributions) 20:01, 9 December 2016 (UTC)
- Even though it looks like most media is going without film title, the press release from Republic Records says "I Don't Wanna Live Forever (Fifty Shades Darker)".Brad davis texas (talk) 20:21, 9 December 2016 (UTC)
- I think it should just be called "I Don't Wanna Live Forever." When you look at "Love Me Like You Do," which was the second single from the first movie, it had the name of the movie (Fifty Shades of Grey) in the single cover, but they omitted that from the title. So I don't think we need Fifty Shades Darker in the title. --Awesome444a444 (talk) 21:05, 9 December 2016 (UTC)
- I agree. Leave it the way it is. No one will call it by its subtitle. The title is long as it is. CB19 (talk) 21:40, 9 December 2016 (UTC)
- See, I disagree with that logic. I want it listed as the proper title. We can use redirects for improper titles. I just want to make sure we know what the proper title is before we change anything. Kellymoat (talk) 22:16, 9 December 2016 (UTC)
- @Kellymoat: here's the press release Brad davis texas was referring to:
International superstars ZAYN & Taylor Swift have released “I Don’t Wanna Live Forever (Fifty Shades Darker)” ... I Don’t Wanna Live Forever (Fifty Shades Darker)” was written specifically for the Fifty Shades Darker feature film
. And here is the iTunes listing. Chase (talk | contributions) 00:35, 10 December 2016 (UTC)
- @Kellymoat: here's the press release Brad davis texas was referring to:
- See, I disagree with that logic. I want it listed as the proper title. We can use redirects for improper titles. I just want to make sure we know what the proper title is before we change anything. Kellymoat (talk) 22:16, 9 December 2016 (UTC)
- "Love Me Like You Do" never carried the FSOG subtitle, and the single cover says "Love Me Like You Do from the Fifty Shades of Grey Original Motion Picture Soundtrack", whereas the Swift song's cover reads "I Don't Wanna Live Forever (Fifty Shades Darker) ... from the Fifty Shades Darker Original Motion Picture Soundtrack". Chase (talk | contributions) 00:26, 10 December 2016 (UTC)
- I agree. Leave it the way it is. No one will call it by its subtitle. The title is long as it is. CB19 (talk) 21:40, 9 December 2016 (UTC)
- Strong Oppose – "Fifty Shades Darker" in parentheses is only promoting this movie, same situation as "Earned It" 2 years ago. 2601:8C:4001:DCB9:491B:FF7C:5C78:B49A (talk) 22:32, 9 December 2016 (UTC)
- Promotional gimmick or not, that doesn't mean it's not a part of the title. Chase (talk | contributions) 00:26, 10 December 2016 (UTC)
- Oppose not part of title. In ictu oculi (talk) 09:59, 10 December 2016 (UTC)
- Oppose was sent to radio as "I Don't Wanna Live Forever". Cornerstonepicker (talk) 13:56, 10 December 2016 (UTC)
- Oppose the film's name is not part of the song's title. Luiz ✈ 19:12, 10 December 2016 (UTC)
- According to...? Several sources have been provided showing it is. Chase (talk | contributions) 02:40, 13 December 2016 (UTC)
- Oppose --U990467 (talk) 06:21, 12 December 2016 (UTC)
- Why? Chase (talk | contributions) 02:40, 13 December 2016 (UTC)
- Oppose – The Fifty Shades Darker part is just an extension of including the film name, not part of main song name. —IB [ Poke ] 09:04, 12 December 2016 (UTC)
- I agree with the move. The song's listed as "I Don't Wanna Live Forever (Fifty Shades Darker)" on iTunes store as well implying the parenthesis is part of the song. Whereas Love Me Like You Do had no such tag in the title. Penpaperpencil (Talk) 15:53, 12 December 2016 (UTC)
- Oppose - The "Fifty Shades Darker" is an extension of the original title to show that the song is for the movie. For instance, "Safe & Sound" was sold as "Safe & Sound (from "the Hunger Games Soundtrack)", but nobody would add in the second part since it shows that the song is from the movie. Furthermore, trusted music outlets have labelled it simply as "I Don't Wanna Live Forever". Whereas, other songs with a bracket in the title are also included normally for daily usage, such as "Send My Love (To Your New Lover)", "Runaway (U & I)", "All In My Head (Flex)" simply because the secondary title in the brackets do not show that the song is being written specially for a movie or anything else. Nahnah4 (talk | contribs | guestbook) 09:19, 13 December 2016 (UTC)
- The song is not listed as "I Don't Wanna Live Forever (from Fifty Shades Darker), it's sold as "I Don't Wanna Live Forever (Fifty Shades Darker)" and its single cover lists that full title before additionally listing "from the Fifty Shades Darker soundtrack". Since when do we have standards on what a subtitle is intended to do? Hint: we haven't. Chase (talk | contributions) 19:34, 14 December 2016 (UTC)
- Oppose It's a subtitle to promote the movie. Just mention it as an alternate title in the lead of the article (like withEarned It). BlaccCrab (talk) 20:03, 13 December 2016 (UTC)
- A subtitle for promotional purposes is still a subtitle. Chase (talk | contributions) 19:34, 14 December 2016 (UTC)
- Oppose It's a subtitle for promo and should be considered a second title. It isnt the name of the song just to mention somewhere that it was for the movie, as mentioned above with the article (like withEarned It). Give this song the same treatment. Cyberjoel95 (talk) 11:59, 16 December 2016 (UTC)
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Genre
Electro-R&B really? First of all that genre doesn't exist. Secondly, this song is a cookie cutter PBR&B composition. Penpaperpencil (Talk) 07:20, 12 December 2016 (UTC)
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GA review
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Nominator: Ippantekina (talk · contribs) 13:45, 4 February 2025 (UTC)
Reviewer: Vestrian24Bio (talk · contribs) 14:57, 26 March 2025 (UTC)
Hi! I will be reviewing this article, expect the initial remarks soon! Vestrian24Bio 14:57, 26 March 2025 (UTC)
Comments
- EARWIG shows 20.0% - violations unlikely.
- According to Link-dispenser,
- 2 links that could be down are missing archive links.
- 23 refs need an archive link.
- Remove Category:Universal Music Group singles from the page.
- Fifty Shades Darker: Original Motion Picture Soundtrack is linked twice within the page contents.
- There are two dead links without archive links..
- Can you specify which one? As my link dispenser shows none. Ippantekina (talk) 04:38, 24 April 2025 (UTC)
- It doesn't show any now, might've been a bug or something. Vestrian24Bio 11:51, 24 April 2025 (UTC)
- The page is in the Category:CS1 maint: multiple names: authors list; check the issue and fix it.
- Add a language variant template.
- Do you mean {{Use American English}} ?
- No need for CA in the infobox, just LA is enough. Also link Brooklyn.
- The opening sentence should be ""I Don't Wanna Live Forever" (also subtitled as "I Don't Wanna Live Forever (Fifty Shades Darker)") is a song by [...] from the 2017 film soundtrack Fifty Shades Darker: Original Motion Picture Soundtrack". Based on MOS:EGG.
- Should add a summary of the music video to the beginning of the third paragraph in the lead.
- Why the order of genres in lead is different from the infobox.
- Re-format the awards table the usual way (e.g: Fortnight (song), Anti-Hero (song) etc.)
- The Awards and nominations section should be titled as "Accolades".
- The Awards table should have a caption.
- Link liner notes in the credits section and also there should be period (.) between the album's name and ref 9.
- Not done because it's not a full sentence. Ippantekina (talk) 03:21, 23 April 2025 (UTC)
- In the Background and release should include the labels for US radio releases and as well the Italy radio airplay.
- Don't need NYC, CA and Virginia for the studios locations; just Brooklyn, LA and Virginia Beach is enough.
- Might as well include NightBird Recording Studios and Sterling Sound Studios in the Background and release section.
- Genres are again in a different order at the Composition section.
- Rewrite the first sentence of the Composition section as - ""I Don't Wanna Live Forever" is 4 minutes and 5 seconds long, and is a [...]"
- Just 3 refs would be enough for "Many critics regarded the production as sultry"; avoid WP:OVERKILL
- Awards-related prose should be in the Accolades section; not the Critical reception section.
- Update ref 25 with a direct link instead of a redirect.
- No need for any of these four notes; refs could be directly included in the prose.
- Don't have to mention all the certifications in the "Commercial performance" section.
- Yes I'm just mentioning multi-platinum certs here. Ippantekina (talk) 04:23, 24 April 2025 (UTC)
- "the music video for "I Don't Wanna Live Former"" - former or forever..
- "Credits adapted from the liner notes of Fifty Shades Darker: Original Motion Picture Soundtrack" - full stop (.) at the end.
- Ditto. Ippantekina (talk) 03:21, 23 April 2025 (UTC)
- DUPELINK check;
- Fifty Shades Darker: Original Motion Picture Soundtrack is linked twice within the article's body.
Vestrian24Bio 05:13, 19 April 2025 (UTC)
- @Ippantekina: just to make sure, you got the response above. Vestrian24Bio 13:31, 21 April 2025 (UTC)
- Whoops I didn't see them. Will act shortly. Ippantekina (talk) 02:01, 22 April 2025 (UTC)
- Hi @Vestrian24Bio: I think all should be addressed. I had to manually insert archive URLs for some refs as IABot is not adding them... Ippantekina (talk) 07:29, 24 April 2025 (UTC)
- Whoops I didn't see them. Will act shortly. Ippantekina (talk) 02:01, 22 April 2025 (UTC)
- Source spot-check: pass
All else good, passing for GA. Vestrian24Bio 11:56, 24 April 2025 (UTC)
Final review
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Did you know nomination
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The result was: promoted by Cielquiparle talk 13:50, 26 May 2025 (UTC)
- ... that Taylor Swift and Zayn Malik reportedly caused damage and set fire to a hotel room while filming the music video for "I Don't Wanna Live Forever"?
- Source: NME
- Reviewed: Sašo Bertoncelj
Ippantekina (talk) 12:24, 24 April 2025 (UTC).
- As the original reporting for the cited fact was done by The Sun (UK), which is a WP:DEPS source (cf. WP:THESUN), I'm marking this as
"maybe". The base article seems fine, but the hook needs reworked to cite a reliable source. Maximilian775 (talk) 16:05, 24 April 2025 (UTC)
- @Maximilian775: I'm proposing a few ALTs below. Lmk which one would be fine:
- ALT1: ... that Taylor Swift and Zayn's "I Don't Wanna Live Forever" is the highest-charting Fifty Shades song on the US Billboard Hot 100 chart? (Source: Billboard)
- ALT2: ... that Taylor Swift's surprise live performance of "I Don't Wanna Live Forever" at a March 2024 concert in Singapore was live streamed via her Instagram? (Source: Billboard)
- ALT3: ... that Taylor Swift and Zayn's "I Don't Wanna Live Forever" was not nominated at the Academy Awards despite being pushed by Universal Pictures? (Sources: Billboard, Variety) Ippantekina (talk) 03:54, 25 April 2025 (UTC)
- @Maximilian775: nudge, Ippantekina (talk) 02:47, 29 April 2025 (UTC)
- New enough, long enough, well-cited and sourced, ALT1 seems interesting enough.
Maximilian775 (talk) 03:24, 29 April 2025 (UTC)
- New enough, long enough, well-cited and sourced, ALT1 seems interesting enough.
- @Maximilian775: nudge, Ippantekina (talk) 02:47, 29 April 2025 (UTC)
- @Maximilian775: I'm proposing a few ALTs below. Lmk which one would be fine: