Talk:Flag of Transnistria

Moldavian SSR flag

There is no need to display the Moldavian SSR flag in an article about about Transnistria's flag. Even though the two very much resemble each other, we already have a link to the separate article about the MSSR flag so anyone who needs to see what that flag looks like is just one click away. Appropriate content should be sorted into appropriate categories. - Mauco 23:57, 15 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Civil flag / state flag

Even though the article text makes it clear that two versions of the flag are flown in Transnistria, this was not immediately clear at first glance from looking at the two images. To confirm with other flag related entries, I've now reworded the captions to clarify this. - Mauco 00:01, 16 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

MSSR/PMR

The phrasing of this article is confusing and needs to be cleaned up. It seems to say that the MSSR flag did not include the hammer and sickle (not true). But may have been intended to be taken to mean that the PMR state flag does not include the hammer and sickle (also not true). Interestingly, I’ve read some sources that mention that the PMR flag as adopted shortly after the declaration of sovereignty did not include the hammer and sickle. I have not seen the legislation (if it exists), however, and would not make this claim in the article.

I wanted to ask before I make any changes whether anyone knows if there are any differences between the PMR flag as adopted in 2000 and the flag of the MSSR?

Also, as a humorous note, it seems that the hammer and sickle is missing from the specifications for the flag provided for English-speakers on pridnestrovie.net. Intentionally no doubt! Jamason 16:39, 8 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Constitutional Law of the Pridnestrovian Moldavian Republic on State Insignia of the Pridnestrovian Moldavian Republic

In this article, we find two versions of the law: First of all "the 2000 law about state symbols", second, "the law as of March 16, 2006". The link for the second didn't work on September 9, 2008 and I wonder what is the difference between 2000 and 2006 version? Rettile 07:24, 10 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

1990-2000 flag

The post-2000 flag of Transnistria.

Hello,

Article Flag of Transnistria states that the current flag was adopted in 2000, using a version of the 1952-1990 flag used by the Moldavian SSR. Transnistria split from Moldova in 1990.

The article does not mention which flag was used between 1990 and 2000. Is anyone able to put this information in the article? Place Clichy (talk) 13:48, 14 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

The Flags of the World web site uses the title "Dniestr Republic (Moldova)" for its page on Transnistria. On that page someone says that "various flags" were in use before 2000. Also on that page, someone says that when the hammer-and-sickle emblem is used on the flag, it is only on one side! That's quite unusual. --76.69.45.64 (talk) 01:12, 17 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
No, it was the same with the flag of the Soviet Union, it often had the hammer and sickle only on the obverse. Snowsuit Wearer (talk|contribs) 12:17, 26 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Width

The lede describes "three EQUAL horizontal bands...", and yet depictions show the horizontal width to be about 1/3 narrower for the green band. All images seem to agree. In the white-blue-red variant, however, the bands DO seem equal. rags (talk) 15:33, 21 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I intend to delete the word 'equal.' If you revert, please explain. rags (talk) 15:35, 21 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]
OK, the confusion arose due to a description of a flag on a postage stamp "with three equal horizontal bands ..." in one of the outlink blogs referenced. The specified description of tha actual flag design is of a red flag w/green band of height 1/4 that of the flag. 1/4 = 2/8, and the remaining 3/4 is shared by the two red bands, at 3/8 each. —> 3/8 : 1/4 : 3/8 = 3:2:3! QED rags (talk) 16:49, 21 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Green

Also, the green used is quite different from that used in, for example, African and South American flags: THEIR green is a somewhat brighter, "warmer" green. Is this green specified in the Act, or is it only customary?

In the outlink, one depiction shows an almost dayglow bright green. Another is almost olive drab. Blogging, as we know, is less than an exact science, and I suspect a breakaway, newly-minted republic within the former Soviet sphere of influence might feel they have larger fish to fry than exact color-matching on their blog. That said, if anyone can state descriptors of the green, so much the better. It is a 'cooler' color, with less saturation, and more blue or gray, but I don't claim any expertise. rags (talk) 17:04, 21 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]
such it's quite unexplainable to me, as the flag depicted in Moldavian SSR flag article appear to be quite "greener" than the "bluish green" on the present article, yet i though the PMR purposedly kept the MSSR flag without change. do we have any statement of PMR official that could explain such inconsistency? 2A01:E0A:984:A320:4054:8008:F44F:6FFE (talk) 23:13, 23 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

The shade of the flag of Transnistria

I took a look at the flag of the Moldavian Soviet Socialist Republic and noticed that this flag is noticeably darker than the one in use in Transnistria. Has the colour change officially been changed to a brighter shade or is this rather a mistake by the user who uploaded it? As far as I know, Transnistria adopted the flag of the Moldavian SSR as it was. If it was never changed, is is the flag of the Moldavian Soviet Socialist Republic that should be used. Åttiotrean 226 (talk) 02:59, 3 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Hi all. If anyone is looking for an exact colour match for the PMR flag from a legal document it is actually described in law as being an exact match for the file at this link, that is, the 1st appendix to the 2013 flag law. All the best, Bayonet-lightbulb (talk) 04:38, 4 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Article structure

While I agree with the sentiment of splitting the article into one section for Transnistria (the "Pridnestrovian Moldavian Republic") and the Moldovan equivalent Administrative-Territorial Units of the Left Bank of the Dniester (mouthful of a name), but considering that the latter section simply describes the Flag of Moldova as Moldova has not designed/adopted a flag for this region, I think it'd be better to revert the article to the previous structure which was only about the Transnistrian flag and its variants.

If Moldova does adopt a design for its legally recognized administration of the Transnistria region, then I'd be more than happy to split the article similar to how Flag of Abkhazia is split as Georgia has its own flag design for the region, but I think there is little benefit to the current article structure here. There is precedent for only describing the flag of the unrecognized polity absent any equivalent internationally recognized flag; the Flag of Western Sahara article used to be 50% about the SADR flag and 50% about the Flag of Morocco, but this is no longer the case because there was no Moroccan version of the Western Sahara flag, just as there is no Moldavian version of the Transnistrian flag, so it is redundant to describe the internationally recognized national flag here.

 Vanilla  Wizard 💙 18:03, 10 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Agreed, the flag of Moldova is the flag of Moldova. It's not included on Flag of Gagauzia for the same obvious reason. CMD (talk) 04:42, 11 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

purposed merge

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The result of the discussion was Closed. The articles are not related, the reason to merge is based purely on that the flags look similar. Robloxguest3 (talk) 03:46, 6 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I purpose merging Flag of the Moldavian Soviet Socialist Republic and Flag of Transnistria because they are the same flag PharaohCrab (talk) 18:05, 21 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose – The images being the same or similar isn't a valid reason for an article merger. The scopes of the two topics are completely different; there's more to the flags than the image itself. They're used in different contexts, different times, and with different rules. I'd understand a proposal to merge the files themselves, but the two topics' difference in scope should be obvious to any reader. Yue🌙 21:43, 21 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
well they are literally the same flag and one article could easily cover the history of both PharaohCrab (talk) 21:49, 21 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Same primary image, different articles scopes, although arguably they aren't the same image because the state flag of Transnistria was standardised in 2000 (along with its colours). Regardless, the former isn't grounds for a merger, but the latter would be (points 1 and 2 of WP:OVERLAP).
If you read both articles, neither are just about the red and green flag with the hammer and sickle. Look at what's written and tell me how you'd reasonably merge one to the other without just copying-and-pasting information that does not connect with each other and only has one detail that connects both articles, i.e. the last flag of the Moldavian SSR becoming the state flag of Transnistria. Yue🌙 03:30, 22 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Respectfully, this seems to be a drive-by proposal lacking engagement with policy. Can an uninvolved editor consider closing this proposal soon? The proposer hasn't replied to any objections in almost two weeks and is evidently focusing on other projects. Yue🌙 05:09, 4 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
yeah iv been convinced not to merge PharaohCrab (talk) 12:00, 4 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose. Insufficient similarity of topics. The two flags are used by two different entities. The successor of the erstwhile SSR Moldova is the R. Moldova, and the PMR (whether you accept its validity or not) does not claim continuity with the Moldovan SSR in a legal sense, even when it does culturally. Bayonet-lightbulb (talk) 04:36, 4 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose - I was going to vote to approve, but they have a good point in that it is not just about the image. Robloxguest3 (talk) 03:32, 6 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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GA review

Passed. PizzaKing13 (¡Hablame!) 🍕👑 11:22, 8 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Nominator: Yue (talk · contribs) 03:50, 27 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Reviewer: PizzaKing13 (talk · contribs) 06:26, 7 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]


I'll do this review shortly. PizzaKing13 (¡Hablame!) 🍕👑 06:26, 7 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Comments

  • Shouldn't the infobox title be "Flag of the Pridnestrovian Moldavian Republic" rather than "State flag ..."?
  • I would link directly to Transnistrian Republican Bank instead of piping it to Transnistrian central bank
  • The article says that Transnistria kept using the flag of the MSSR. Is the flag of Transnistria *identical* to the MSSR's flag or are the colors slightly different. They appear different to me but that could just be because both files use different colors. Does anything say if the Transnistrian government altered the colors or if they are indeed supposed to be the same?

Overall

  • No copyright vio, earwig says 6.5%
  • Sources appear to be reliable
  • Is neutral and stable
  • Very well written
  • Images are appropriately licensed

GA review (see here for what the criteria are, and here for what they are not)

  1. It is reasonably well written.
    a. (prose, spelling, and grammar):
    b. (MoS for lead, layout, word choice, fiction, and lists):
  2. It is factually accurate and verifiable.
    a. (reference section):
    b. (citations to reliable sources):
    c. (OR):
    d. (copyvio and plagiarism):
  3. It is broad in its coverage.
    a. (major aspects):
    b. (focused):
  4. It follows the neutral point of view policy.
    Fair representation without bias:
  5. It is stable.
    No edit wars, etc.:
  6. It is illustrated by images and other media, where possible and appropriate.
    a. (images are tagged and non-free content have non-free use rationales):
    b. (appropriate use with suitable captions):
  7. Overall:
    Pass/fail:

(Criteria marked are unassessed)

@Yue: Article is very good shape! Just a few comments for the review. PizzaKing13 (¡Hablame!) 🍕👑 09:13, 7 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@PizzaKing13: Hey there, thank you for doing this review!
  • I wrote "state flag" because the first flag in the infobox, i.e. the hammer-and-sickle flag, is the "state flag", legally speaking. This distinguishes it from the backside of the state flag, the one without the hammer and sickle, which can be used as a civil or national flag and is also a "flag of the PMR".
  • The bottom is marked as the civil flag in the use parameter but I know from the article and the caption that it is the reverse of the state flag, so I'll let the name of the infobox slide as it is.
  • Unpiped.
  • I clarified that the law that officially adopted the flag also standardised the colours. The Soviet document that introduced the 1952 flag of the Moldavian SSR did not specify particular colour values. Regardless of whatever the colours of the state flag were before the 2000 Transnistrian law (i.e., whatever colours were retained or changed from the flag of the Moldavian SSR), they were standardised to the present ones after the law was passed and the state flag was officially adopted.
Yue🌙 19:44, 7 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Yue: All the points seem to be addressed. Congrats on the GA! PizzaKing13 (¡Hablame!) 🍕👑 11:22, 8 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Did you know nomination

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The result was: promoted by Darth Stabro talk 17:58, 14 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

State flag of Transnistria
State flag of Transnistria
Improved to Good Article status by Yue (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 35 past nominations.

Yue🌙 18:39, 8 July 2025 (UTC).[reply]

General: Article is new enough and long enough
Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
Image: Image is freely licensed, used in the article, and clear at 100px.
QPQ: Done.

Overall: Article converted to GA status. Flag pic is verified as free as per copyright rules of Transnistria. Overall, the article is well cited, detailed and the hook is mentioned both in the intro and main body. So, good to go. Toadboy123 (talk) 15:01, 10 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Ban of Russian

Hi Yue, congratulations on your GA nomination. I've read the article and largely found no issues, but there's something I wanted to note. In the History section, it is said that it had been proposed to ban the Russian language in the MASSR, and that this incited the separatist conflict. A language ban law is actually quite the exceptional thing, I don't think I've ever read about such a law having been applied in any country. The cited sources are BBC and a book that does not talk about this time period in the cited page (128).

I most commonly see on reliable sources that what incited inhabitants of what's now Transnistria to rebel was that Russian had not been granted official status along with "Moldovan" (now in the Latin alphabet) in 1990 and fears over Moldovan unification with Romania. So I'd appreciate it if this problematic part of the article could be replaced. I can help you if you want, you only have to ask me. Super Ψ Dro 10:01, 25 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Super Dromaeosaurus: I just uncritically repeated what the BBC source says because I consider the BBC a generally reliable source:
A move to ban the Russian language was the last straw, prompting Transnistria to safeguard its cultural heritage by proclaiming the independent Pridnestrovian Moldavian Soviet Socialist Republic (PMSSR) on 2 September 1990.
I probably just used the book source to verify the date a second time.
If you want to change the sentence to be more nuanced and then replace the sources, go ahead and do that; you have my support. Yue🌙 18:17, 25 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
allikas: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Flag_of_Transnistria