Talk:Darius the Great

Good articleDarius the Great has been listed as one of the History good articles under the good article criteria. If you can improve it further, please do so. If it no longer meets these criteria, you can reassess it.
Article milestones
DateProcessResult
January 17, 2010Peer reviewReviewed
March 21, 2010Good article nomineeListed
June 29, 2025Good article reassessmentKept
Current status: Good article

How Many Provinces?

The present edit says that Darius organized the Persian Empire into twenty provinces called satrapies. Most sources say that he really had that 20 satrapies, which refer to the major provinces (example is Babylon, who has been conquered by Cyrus the Great a generation ago.) but the 120, which has been expanded to 127 by Darius on the near end of his reign, were only minor ones. Yeah, Persia really reached its "golden age" under Darius. But, his successor, Xerxes, had lost some of these provinces due to revolts against him.

He had 20 great satrapies. These were ruled by satraps, but being guarded by the inspectors he had established to act as Darius' "eyes and ears", to maintain the order in ruling these satrapies. You're right: they are called satrapies: but other books gave the name of "minor satrapies", which refer to the minor provinces Darius had established earlier in his reign, when he started his conquest for a bigger empire. --bubbles16_22 (talk) 15:21, 15 August 2009

Book of Daniel

Darius the Great isn't mentioned in the Book of Daniel, Darius the Mede is. The problem with Darius the Mede is that he did not exist. So stop adding the Book of Daniel to this article.

Bottom line: there is no Darius the Great in the Book of Daniel, and Wikipedia won't pretend there is. tgeorgescu (talk) 18:38, 2 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

GA concerns

I am concerned that this article no longer meets the good article criteria because there is a lot of uncited text, including entire paragraphs. Is anyone interested in fixing up this article, or should this go to WP:GAR? Z1720 (talk) 02:43, 16 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@History of Iran: FYI. TrangaBellam (talk) 03:28, 16 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for pinging me, TrangaBellam. @Z1720: I'm up to the task. HistoryofIran (talk) 03:30, 16 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@HistoryofIran: There are still uncited paragraphs in the article. Are you or anyone else still willing to resolve these? Z1720 (talk) 15:39, 25 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Oh, I am so sorry. Completely forgot about this. I don't know when I can resolve this. HistoryofIran (talk) 18:58, 25 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

GA Reassessment

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.


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Result: Kept. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 15:02, 29 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Uncited statements, including entire paragraphs. Z1720 (talk) 22:50, 3 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

At what was admittedly a quick glance, the article look reasonably well sourced. Could you clarify which parts you consider to be unsourced or poorly sourced? PatGallacher (talk) 00:29, 4 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@PatGallacher: I have added "citation needed" tags to places that need citations. Z1720 (talk) 02:23, 4 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Z1720: I have three books from which I may be able to add citations - after I finish with Battles of Lexington and Concord. Donner60 (talk) 06:43, 8 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Donner60: Feel free to ping me when this is ready for a re-review. Z1720 (talk) 01:14, 15 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Z1720 and PatGallacher: I have added three citations so far and a small copy edit. I did some research on JSTOR and could not find articles that gave enough information for an exact citation to support the remaining tagged statements. I have not looked through my three books in depth and can't be sure one way or the other whether I can cover all the cn tags with citations from them. If anyone else has sources and can add any of the needed citations, especially more promptly, it would be helpful. If I can't cover them all, or can't do so in a reasonable period of time due to other commitments and coordinator tasks, I will post that here. I am working on three other GARs now as well which I also want to complete, if I can, in a reasonable period of time. I intend to complete at least the first of those before getting back to this. Donner60 (talk) 04:53, 16 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I am have done some more work on this sooner than I expected. Three more citations needed tags to cover. I think two will come from a book by Tom Holland. User:Soidling has also edited including adding citations. Donner60 (talk) 07:46, 23 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
There is one citation needed tag left. The short subsection of one paragraph may need to be written with at least one citation added. I have not found a source that has some of the details in the current paragraph. Donner60 (talk) 05:36, 25 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Z1720: I have added all of the missing citations and a few others. Please review to see if GA can be maintained or if there is anything else that needs to be done. Thanks. Donner60 (talk) 04:52, 26 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. No more uncited statements, everything looks good now. The following sources are no longer used as inline citations:
  • Balentine, Samuel (1999)
  • Bedford, Peter (2001)
  • Bennett, Deb (1998)
  • Frahm, Eckart (2023)
  • Moulton, James (2005)
  • Safra, Jacob (2002)
  • Schmitt, Rudiger (1987)
  • Tropea, Judith (2006)
  • Waters, Matt (2014)

Should they be used as inline citations, moved to "Further reading" or removed? Z1720 (talk) 15:32, 28 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.