Talk:Dale Vince

Dreadful article

"In April 2022, Vince announced he planned to sell Ecotricity" - of which there had been no previous mention in the article. The grammar is quite awful in many places.

Agree. The article needs a thorough edit, which I do not have time to undertake.

Marchino61 (talk) 10:49, 12 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Untidy

Erm... what's with the talk about the Telegraph article in the 'Ecotricity' section?

Why not summarize what Ecotricity is and point to the existing page, perhaps add the Telegraph article to a "What the Hysterical Press say" section?

If none of the other contributors want to tidy this up - I can rewrite it - but I do work for him... & I'd prefer not have to try and be neutral ;-)

Paulecotricity (talk) 15:17, 28 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I'd not really noticed it. Having now done so, I do wonder what the other article on the hack's desk looked like: "Squillion pound electric car lies unused as Evil Hippy Millionaire Owner squanders your money". This is a car. Cars are driven. This is a car for research. Research involves using it and seeing if it works. So what's the problem? I once worked for a chap who employed a team of students to drive brand new BMWs in figure-eights on an airfield all day (they were testing a new differential) - is that any better than building this test car and then using it as it's intended? Andy Dingley (talk) 10:08, 22 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Hehe - that's about it Andy! Well I waited a while, then removed that section - Ecotricity is mentioned in the introductory paragraph anyway. Perhaps someone will be writing an entry for the 'Nemesis' & can include mentions in the press (like the Telegraph article)? --Paulecotricity (talk) 08:56, 28 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
original company reg form

— Preceding unsigned comment added by Varthdaderdeathstar (talk • contribs) 14:49, 31 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Divorce settlements.

This needs to go in, but I've already reverted it twice today. "ex-wife wins cash fight" is quite wrong. She may yet win some settlement (I hope she does, good luck to her), but this hasn't happened yet.

She has won the right to take the case to court. She has not won the case.

At the outset, I understand (IANAL) that this was the position she was already in, same as any other ex-partner. However an initial judgement had ruled that out. That judgement has now been reversed.

Whatever coverage we give to this (and it warrants coverage as both a BLP aspect and a novel legal aspect) then we should be accurate and reflect what has happened, not the "divorcees own everything forever" shock headlines that have been flying around today. Even the Telegraph (above) has a good and balanced article, spoiled by the misleading headline. Andy Dingley (talk) 21:19, 11 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Actual origin of company

in 1995 he with his then partner Karen Lane joined Martin Alder in founding The Renewable Energy Company. It was Alder who had the experience and background in the UK electricity industry and whose idea it was to create a specialist supplier of renewable energy. It was Alder who chose the name of the Renewable Energy Company later to be re-branded by Vince as Ecotricity. The company was very successful from the beginning Alder using his network of contacts in renewable generation to secure contracts for electricity and sales. In 1999/2000 Vince contrived to seize control of the company for himself. He subsequently made sure that no acknowledgement was given to Alder's or Lane's role in the foundation of company.Varthdaderdeathstar (talk) 14:40, 31 October 2015 (UTC)Cite error: A <ref> tag is missing the closing </ref> (see the help page).</ref> See File BlREX+GJ0205-870856 4-12723584.pdf[reply]

Citation needed.
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OBE

Page 13 here https://www.thegazette.co.uk/London/issue/57155/supplement/1 verifies his OBE. I have no idea how to do citations. Do remove this section if/when you can do it properly. Ta

Incorporating Guido Fawkes content into Politics section

Hello! I'm an employee at Ecotricity, part of the Green Britain Foundation, both of which are owned by Dale Vince. I wanted to address a recent edit to the article, which adds a Dispute with GuidoFawkes section about Mr. Vince suing the politics blog Guido Fawkes for libel. While that is true, it doesn't strike me as something that should have its own section. Perhaps it should be incorporated into the final paragraph of the existing Politics section. A suggestion:

On Times Radio, in the immediate aftermath of the 2023 Hamas-led attack on Israel, Vince stated that "one man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter" when asked about Hamas. In the same interview, he said that he did not support Hamas's attack. He further agreed that Hamas is a terrorist organization and that Israel has a right to defend itself.[1][2] Angela Rayner said Vince's "freedom fighter" remark was "appalling".[1] In July 2024, Vince sued ownership of the political blog Guido Fawkes for libel, claiming that the site implied he supported Hamas by circulating a clip of the Times Radio interview that featured only the "freedom fighter" remark with no additional context.[2]

References

  1. ^ a b Daly, Patrick (2024-03-14). "Labour donor Dale Vince's comments about Hamas were appalling, says Rayner". The Independent. Retrieved 2024-10-09.
  2. ^ a b Waterson, Jim (July 2, 2024). "Dale Vince sues Guido Fawkes owner for libel over Hamas claims". The Guardian. Retrieved January 31, 2025.

The Dispute with GuidoFawkes section also claims that I removed content from this Wikipedia article about the libel suit in August of 2024. That's not correct. I actually added content about the suit and the blog distorting Mr. Vince's comments. Another editor reverted my changes. They were completely right to do so, by the way, and I apologise for my edits. At the time, I wasn't familiar with Wikipedia's conflict-of-interest editing guidelines. I'm now aware that I'm not supposed to directly edit this article, which is why I'm on the Talk page suggesting changes instead.

Anyway, I'll step aside and let independent editors weigh in on this matter. If I can offer any clarification on this edit request or my previous editing, please let me know. Verelrodrigues (talk) 16:09, 6 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I'm going to tag in User:SimplyLouis27, who has made an edit to the Guido Fawkes dispute section, and User:Vanderwaalforces, who had (rightfully) removed my content about the Times Radio interview controversy last summer, to see if either of them would like to review my request above. Verelrodrigues (talk) 17:23, 10 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I removed it as it added no encyclopaedic value, and frankly didn’t make sense. SimplyLouis27 (talk) 18:29, 10 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
User:SimplyLouis27: Yes, I saw that you got rid of the passage about me editing the article and added a "citation needed" tag to the other claim. Really appreciate that; I think it improves upon what was previously there. What I'm asking about is my edit request above, in which I suggest incorporating some of the GuidoFawkes section content into the existing Politics one.
No pressure to field the request! Just asking because you demonstrated an interest in the content I'm looking to reorganise. Verelrodrigues (talk) 18:27, 14 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
 Done, clearly an improvement as the previous was a completely unsourced BLP statement. Thank you for working through edit requests. Rusalkii (talk) 20:24, 16 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for reviewing, User:Rusalkii! Verelrodrigues (talk) 19:16, 24 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Improving the Early life and career section

Hello again! I'd like to submit a draft that strengthens and builds upon the Early life and career section. What's already there is mostly solid; I just noticed that there are a few information gaps. I'm going to use the "diff" function below to illustrate all my suggested changes, but I'll briefly summarize first. My draft:

  • Separates Early life into its own section and rewrites a pair of sentences that were plagiarized from the cited source
  • Adds information about several career developments that received extensive media coverage (Nemesis, launch of Devil's Kitchen, publication of Vince's first book, etc.)
  • Clarifies that Vince halted previously planned sale of Ecotricity

You can review all my suggested changes line-by-line by clicking this dropdown:

If my draft were added to the article as-is, it would look like this:

I'll now step aside and let independent editors review. I know that might take some time because I'm proposing quite a few content additions. If I can make the process easier in any way, please let me know! Thanks! Verelrodrigues (talk) 18:08, 31 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Reaching out to User:Rusalkii because they reviewed my previous request. No obligation on their part, particularly since this is a more extensive request, but I would appreciate the help. Verelrodrigues (talk) 14:50, 3 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Adding further context to Politics section

Hello! While editors are still considering my extensive request above, I thought it might be wise to propose a more modest one to the Politics section. Over the past year, there have been a few notable developments in the Times Radio interview controversy (publications retracting claims, lawsuits settling, etc.) that I believe are worth including because 1.) they have received significant media coverage and 2.) their inclusion would provide a fuller picture of the event and its consequences. I'll once again use the "diff" function to illustrate the edits I'm proposing:

Here is what the last two paragraphs of the section would look like if my edits were made:

As always, I'm here to answer any questions independent editors may have as they review. Thanks! Verelrodrigues (talk) 17:04, 10 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Hi! I'm a colleague of Verel's, filling in for him while he's on holiday. I've added myself to the COI template at the top of this Talk page. I just wanted to let the community here know that I may be responding to feedback on either of his active edit requests. Pedalpowered (talk) 09:19, 29 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Picking up where my colleague left off above, I'm going to tag User:OatPowered because they have regularly contributed to this article over the years. OatPowered, if you have any time to handle this request and/or the one above it, I would really appreciate the help. Verelrodrigues (talk) 15:54, 20 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Go ahead: I have reviewed these proposed changes and suggest that you go ahead and make the proposed changes to the page. GoldRomean (talk) 02:11, 11 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks so much for reviewing, User:GoldRomean! I've implemented both this edit request and the one above. Verelrodrigues (talk) 16:16, 11 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Replacing infobox photo

Hello again! Thanks for editors' help with the requests above. As a break from these more complicated requests, I am back to put forward a very simple one: would it be possible to replace the photo in the article's infobox? It's quite old and not the best quality. I reached out to a photographer we've worked with, and they have released a recent Dale Vince headshot on Wikimedia Commons. Here's a link to the photo.

Thank you in advance to whoever handles this request. Verelrodrigues (talk) 10:37, 5 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Reaching out to User:GoldRomean since they reviewed the last request. No obligation here at all, just if this is something you have time and inclination to give a look. Verelrodrigues (talk) 13:17, 8 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Go ahead: I have reviewed these proposed changes and suggest that you go ahead and make the proposed changes to the page. :D GoldRomean (talk) 15:28, 9 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for reviewing, User:GoldRomean! I just added the new photo to the infobox. Verelrodrigues (talk) 15:59, 12 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Adding content about vegan activism

Hello! I wanted to request the addition of a couple of lines about Dale Vince's vegan activism to the beginning of the Personal life section, which states that he is a vegan but doesn't elaborate any further. Perhaps something like this:

Vince is a vegan.[1] He has campaigned to end animal farming and in 2024 urged Labour to do away with a law that compels U.K. schools to serve meat and dairy.[2] In January 2025, Vince announced that Ecotricity had opened a fully plant-based workplace canteen at its facility in Stroud, Gloucestershire.[3]

References

  1. ^ Flintoff, John-Paul (27 May 2011). "Power to the people: Dale Vince, green energy pioneer". The Daily Telegraph. London. Archived from the original on 2011-05-30.
  2. ^ Wheeler, Brian (September 23, 2024). "Scrap law making schools serve meat, urges Labour donor". BBC. Retrieved September 6, 2025.
  3. ^ "'UK's first' fully plant-based workplace canteen opens". BBC. January 20, 2025. Retrieved September 6, 2025.

I hope this is a straightforward request, but if anyone has questions or comments, please feel free to reply below this post. Cheers! Verelrodrigues (talk) 16:27, 10 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Done Encoded  Talk 💬 21:25, 10 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for reviewing, User:Encoded! Please could you remove the duplicated sentence from the start of the Personal life section? Otherwise, the section says "Dale is a vegan" twice :) Verelrodrigues (talk) 16:00, 12 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Verelrodrigues Apologies for not doing that, now sure how I missed it! Thanks, Encoded  Talk 💬 16:36, 12 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks @Encoded! Verelrodrigues (talk) 17:42, 12 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Fixing stylisation of Skydiamond

Hello, I have a very narrow request: in the fifth paragraph of the Career section, Dale Vince's artificial diamond company is stylised as "SkyDiamond." That's technically incorrect. It's "Skydiamond," with a lower-case "d." That's reflected in the New York Times article used to substantiate the sentence. Here's a quote from that article:

Lab-grown diamonds are reaching new heights — quite literally — because of Skydiamond, an English company that uses carbon from the atmosphere to create what it calls sustainable, carbon-negative diamonds.

Apologies for using an edit request on such a small thing, but with my COI, I'm hesitant to edit the article myself, even for a minor fix like this. Thanks! Verelrodrigues (talk) 14:02, 16 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Go ahead: I have reviewed these proposed changes and suggest that you go ahead and make the proposed changes to the page. GoldRomean (talk) 23:08, 8 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]
allikas: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Dale_Vince