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The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move reviewafter discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
Closing note:Discussion become overly broad regarding moving policy for related articles; consensus reached to rename this article alone and start new broader RM discussion notifying other articles accordingly.Alexandraaaacs1989 (talk) 02:06, 2 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]
There are pro-Palestinian campus protests at OSU predating the Gaza war, which would make the article improperly broad in scope if included (the 2014 Mock Apartheid Wall protests, the 2016 Bricker Hall sit-in, mentions of many organizations that no longer exist such as CJP and B'nai Keshet, etc), meaning there must be a temporal qualifier, unless we want to A) drastically increase the scope of this article, which I argue would contravene the spirit in which this article was created: to represent OSU during the broader Gaza war protests; or B) we want this article title to imply a broader scope than what it actually covers, making the title slightly misleading for the sake of reducing verbosity;
I very much like this idea. I will support it on two conditions:
A) That we open a new discussion regarding this move proposal on the Columbia page and receive support from editors on their talk page; and
B) that if we receive support, we change all other university Gaza war protest articles to conform to this new naming standard for editorial consistency and in order to leave open the possibility for pre- and post-2024 updates to be added, e.g., on the UTAustin article.
Leave any article titles with "pro-Palestinian campus occupation" or similar out of an initial move proposal (but not Columbia's "campus protests and occupations"; occupations are a subset of protests, so "student protests" works there).
These are great suggestions, and I appreciate you compiling that list, but I slightly disagree with parts of your suggestions.
I think all occupation articles should simply be moved to "Gaza war occupations at X" or those with protests including occupations being moved to "Gaza war protests and occupations at X", without "campus" being included at all in since it's redundant. I see no reason not to bundle occupations in with this mass move proposal.
I also think 2024 should be removed from all articles (including the Reactions to the 2024 pro-Palestinian protests on university campuses article) with the exception of some meta articles, like lists of 2024 / 2025 protests, seeing as how the protests have continued past 2024, and putting an arbitrary expiration date on university protests might discourage editors from adding important information between October 7 2023 and 2024 or after 2024.
Adhering to these conditions these conditions, I think all the articles you mentioned, in addition to every United States and Other countries article below, should be moved:
@Alexandraaaacs1989: Thanks for the kind words. I've now thought of a style which achieves more consistency without sacrificing much concision, and which avoids the possible neologism of "Gaza war student protests": "Gaza war protests at [universities, Fooian universities or Foo University]". I agree that omitting the dates would be better, but I would probably still include them in an RM because I'm not volunteering to change the scope of the affected articles myself. I'm also aware of the unsuccessful merge proposal for the articles on student protests in 2024 and 2025.
I don't think "Gaza war" modifies "campus occupation(s)" as naturally as it does "protests", and certainly not "occupation(s)" on its own – "war" and "occupation" next to each other give me a mental picture of occupied territories in a war, not a student protest. Were these the only campus occupations at those universities in 2024? If so, I would propose the style below, which also avoids the problem of there not being closing parenthetical commas in some of the current article titles:
Thank you for compiling this new list! I think we are almost at a solution.
Regarding the unsuccessful merge proposal, I read through the arguments on its talk page. The bulk of the argument that lead to opposition of changing the article name was that in the case of 2024 pro-Palestinian protests on university campuses article specifically, the article would become too long if the year was removed and thus the scope broadened. I agree that in this individual case, it is better to limit the article to 2024. But I don't think this logic applies to other articles (e.g., 2024 University of Texas at Austin pro-Palestinian campus protests would be better off excluding the date), as most of the standalone university protest/occupation articles you listed are significantly shorter, and often even stubs.
I am willing to make scope changes myself and deal with the consequences regarding changing them if we arrive at a consensus to remove the dates.
I am realizing I agree with your characterization of "occupation(s)" in addition to protest as redundant, so I therefore advocate dropping "occupation(s)" entirely. This will also handle nicely in the search bar, where if you type "Gaza war protests at X", all you have to do is search for the university without worrying about whether the university had a protest, an occupation, occupations, or other combinations of these terms. I think simplest is best.
Finally, for universities that start with "the", let's just drop the "the" from the titles, as is custom in articles such as Ohio State University (even though it should technically have "The").
Here's my proposal based on your list with a few changes:
Please let me know what you think of these changes. I think this format is simplest, clearest in scope, and most consistent. Moreover, I notified other article pages with high user traffic of this larger-scale discussion to give others appropriate opportunity to weigh in.
@Alexandraaaacs1989: Sorry for my delay in getting back to you. If you're willing to add to the articles where removing a date would expand the scope that would be great. Are you also offering to restructure the article on protests at Dutch universities as a list, to match the ones for the US and California? I think that isn't really necessary and that Gaza war protests at Dutch universities would be fine, but I'm also not opposed to such a change.
With changing them all to "Gaza war protests", my question would be whether some of the articles are too narrow in scope to have that title – i.e., they're only about a single occupation or encampment. The UC Davis and UC Irvine articles (but not UCLA) and the USC and Oregon ones just seem to cover individual encampments. The PSU one just seems to cover a single occupation, but that's a very brief stub. There could still be "Gaza war protests at [Foo]" redirects for all of these, which would deal with the search bar issue. The rest do seem to cover multiple forms of protest, but the wording in many (possibly all) of their lede sections would have to be changed to reflect the scope. (I would still be for moving the ones I haven't named in this paragraph to "Gaza war protests at [Foo]".)
It looks like we're wrapping things up, but since I haven't yet heard from an admin, I'll make another addition and keep things short and sweet ~
Your guess was right - I'm offering to restructure the article on protests at Dutch universities as a list and am happy to do so.
"I don't agree with leaving "the" out for the sake of uniformity" - I'll concede my point and agree with your perspective.
"Some of the articles are too narrow in scope to have that [Gaza war protests at X] title" - My logic is the following:
A) You are correct that "Gaza war protests at X" title format is broader than the actual scope of some existing articles.
B) However, I imagine none of the individual events documented (e.g., only an encampment, no protests detailed) were independent of a larger Gaza war protest movement at said university.
C) Therefore, renaming the articles would encourage editors to add details to broaden the scope of existing articles that are currently narrow in scope.
D) Even in the worst-case scenario (the plausibility of which I imagine to be unlikely)—that there actually was only one Gaza war protest event (e.g., an occupation) at a university that actually received serious traction—it is still true that this event falls under the "Gaza war protests at X" scope, and therefore the title is still true enough to warrant this change, especially given my logic in point C. If it turns out later on that nothing comes of it more than said occupation, encampment, or whatever, then we can revert the name back to be more narrow than "Gaza war protests at X".
Let's make sure there's a broader consensus regarding plans for all relevant articles before closing things up. Do you have an opinion regarding my suggestion vs Ham's? Alexandraaaacs1989 (talk) 21:22, 19 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
It's not possible to gain broader consensus for these other titles without first notifying all the talk pages which hasn't been done (I checked a handful and not all were notified). It'd therefore be best to open a new RM (once this one has closed), include all the proposed title changes, and thus all talk pages would be notified by bot as required. If there is consensus not to move to the proposed title in this RM, where editors have been notified, then I agree that this should be closed as doesn't serve a purpose of remaining open. CNC (talk) 12:06, 26 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Agreed. Hopefully an administrator can provide clarity on the permitted scope of this discussion and offer advice on next steps for large-scale naming policy change proposals.
The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
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Article assessment
Greetings, This topic is outside my familiarity, so today I added a few cn tags. My Wikipedia focus is for stub and unreferenced articles so I do not feel qualified here. The article does have substantial citations. While this article is currently set at "C-class", I would defer to others if it can now be assessed at "B-class". Regards, JoeNMLC (talk) 18:43, 13 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Cleaned up the citations. A couple sections were intro paragraph descriptions of larger sections so I didn't include citations for those, but otherwise please let me know if it's better now if you have the chance. Alexandraaaacs1989 (talk) 06:17, 6 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
