Talk:Myanmar civil war (2021–present)

Map Update (November)

  • Split DKBA, KNU/KNLA-PC off from "KNLA" and put them all together with KNA as "pro-junta Karen forces" Made KNLP territories as "junta-controlled". as per talk suggestion above.

EmeraldRange (talk/contribs) 16:49, 7 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I think the area around Mobye and Pekhon has gotten smaller for the Karenni side than shown on the map. I have no news that Pekhon town would have fallen, only sporadic mention of fighting in it or near it, but I would not be suprised if Karenni control of it too was chaky at minimum. With current fighting is around Bawyan and this area, seems to where the zone of control goes about atm. The town is west of both Pekon and Mobye towns and its a bit unclear from with direction Tatmadaw and PNO are advancing.
Some Links:
https://ktnews.org/feature/7193/
https://www.bnionline.net/en/news/junta-and-pno-torch-over-30-houses-pekon-township-village
https://ktnews.org/news/5901/
More sources here:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_1111#Focus_on_Pehkon_and_Bawyan
Rough Coordinates to Banyan:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_1111#endnote_Bawyan1 Kennet Mattfolk (talk) 17:38, 7 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Would you say Pekhon is still contested or fully junta-controlled at this point? Great find on Bawyan. I think given the reporting on it I've made it an article so that the end note is no longer necessary. EmeraldRange (talk/contribs) 04:21, 10 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]
This is the only recent source I have that mentions the town. https://english.dvb.no/thousands-newly-displaced-in-shan-and-karenni-states-101-buildings-demolished-at-kk-park-in-karen-state/ Its from 12 November saying "Sources close to Karenni resistance forces told DVB that regime forces have launched a counteroffensive to retake control of the surrounding areas of Moebye, Pekon and Pinlaung towns, which are located between southern Shan and Karenni states, since Nov. 1."
Thus my personal guess it may still be partially controlled by the Karenni. However maybe not much fighting. Though its equally likelly it may have fallen and nobody reoorted on it. I'd keep it contested til now. :) Kennet Mattfolk (talk) 12:08, 10 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Map Update (December)

Map Updates

Map corrections: (thanks to Myanmar War Map and Myanmar Control Map)

https://bur.mizzima.com/2025/12/12/75553

No map changes but notable:

Other map changes:

  • adjusted the rough KIA control to align with the roads

EmeraldRange (talk/contribs) 22:18, 4 January 2026 (UTC)[reply]

Not related to the December update, but there is reportedly fighting Kadugyi. See: https://www.bnionline.net/en/news/junta-pno-launch-joint-offensive-pnla-controlled-kadugyi . Google maps links it to Kakku Padogas. If true, then it would mean PNLA positions may be further west just south of Taungyi, then the current msp suggests. The link links PNLA as controlling it with PNO/A + Tatmadaw as attempting to take it. Could be something to consider for next update. :) Kennet Mattfolk (talk) 00:45, 12 January 2026 (UTC)[reply]
Do you have a coordinate for that? I couldn't find any "Kadugyi". There's a Kandu, Pekon Township [my] at 19°34'07.9"N 96°51'35.6"E. The way that the article is phrase, I think Kadugyi is an unmapped village (because villages controlled for a long time by EAOs aren't in the database I use) near the Salween much further southeast from Taunggyi. EmeraldRange (talk/contribs) 02:17, 12 January 2026 (UTC)[reply]
GM doesn't give coordinates, but thinks I mean Kakku Padogas, However when I used the first part of the Bamar name in Openstreet map I found an Kakku archeological site with Location: 20.4454429, 97.1384401, I think N and E.
20°26′44″N 97°08′18″E / 20.4454429°N 97.1384401°E / 20.4454429; 97.1384401
It should be just south of Taunggyi, some ~~30km measuring with the eye. Kennet Mattfolk (talk) 12:40, 12 January 2026 (UTC)[reply]
My only find of Kadugyi or Kadu-gyi is the gm saying it thinks is that place. The match was in my opinion reasonable enough it could be true, if so be deep in PNO areas, and controlled by PNLA. But in reality I'm not 100% sure either :) Kennet Mattfolk (talk) 12:46, 12 January 2026 (UTC)[reply]

The PNLA has received reports that the junta and PNO intend to advance through Kadugyi, where the PNLA headquarters is located, to Shadaw Township in Karenni State,... They also promised that if they took control of all of Kadugyi, they would cross the Than Lwin (Salween) River and build a road leading to the Thai border,” he said... A source familiar with the area’s geography noted that east of Kadugyi, after crossing the Than Lwin River, there is an old road used by cattle herders that could potentially be upgraded into a new road.

The Salween's closest point to Kakku is 59 miles away. The article also mentions separately that the fighting in Kadugyi coincides with the Pun Stream. While there is a stream near Kakku it flows westwards and would have to go through several more villages and towns before getting to the Salween.

The junta and its allied militia, the Pa-O National Organisation (PNO), have launched a joint offensive against the Kadugyi region of Mawkmai Township in southern Shan State, where the Pa-O National Liberation Army (PNLA) headquarters is based.

This matches much more with the geography for it to be an unlablled location in Mawkmai Township rather than Hopong Township- most of the watershed flows into the Salween directly and is also very close to the Salween and Thai border. EmeraldRange (talk/contribs) 13:29, 12 January 2026 (UTC)[reply]
Ok, I'll take your word for it, Mawkmai would also make sense if one wants to attack Shadaw. :) Kennet Mattfolk (talk) 13:38, 12 January 2026 (UTC)[reply]
https://www.bnionline.net/en/news/pnla-says-pno-bombed-drones-and-burned-down-entire-village-mawkmai-township
You seem to have been correct in your assesment :) Kennet Mattfolk (talk) 01:55, 21 January 2026 (UTC)[reply]

Kawthoolai

The Karen army declared an independent country known as the Republic of Kawthoolai. ~2025-31049-16 (talk) 20:23, 8 January 2026 (UTC)[reply]

We generally update the article based on significant or relevant events rather than declarations from minor groups. EmeraldRange (talk/contribs) 00:22, 9 January 2026 (UTC)[reply]
Yay new guy! Welcome! Kawthoolei Army already includes this information, there is atm way too few wiki editors around these parts, so feel free to add relevant information. However as Emerald alludes to this article is mainly meant to be knitting together the highlights. What I usually do is add an [relevant#relevant] link to an daughter article here on this page and then only leave a mention here of the event. I think I saw you copy edited my rallienglanti of the Bawyan section, you maybe noticed what kind of linking to daughter articles I'm referring to. :)
However, at times the information may only be on here on the main page bc maybe there are no maintained daughter article to refer to. So if this information is in your view important to add here, I'd say create an sub-header on the Kawthoolei Army page for this independence bid, then make a short one sentence mention here on this article with link back to the Kawthoolei army sub-header, if it were to evolve into an bigger independence project then maybe make it into an short sub-header here on this page. That way, any wiki reader interested in more information can simply follow the link to an daughter article with more information. Kennet Mattfolk (talk) 13:17, 9 January 2026 (UTC)[reply]
Looks like said copy editor was different guy, nvm. :D Kennet Mattfolk (talk) 13:26, 9 January 2026 (UTC)[reply]

Spring Revolution Alliance

The formation of the Spring Revolution Alliance seems significant enough to be listed in the infobox, probably with the major member groups being listed as sub points.

I would do it myself but I can't actually work out how to open the infobox. A regular article contributor deciding to so is preferable anyway. ButterscotchPuffin (talk) 10:09, 15 January 2026 (UTC)[reply]

 Done consolidated the groups in relevant into PRA EmeraldRange (talk/contribs) 13:43, 15 January 2026 (UTC)[reply]
KNDF is also part of the 4K coalition, these alliances pop-up 'kuin sieniä sateella'[1].. their technically included twice. Then their part of the Karenni State Interim Executive Council. I'm not as fumiliar with the other members. Kennet Mattfolk (talk) 00:13, 16 January 2026 (UTC)[reply]
The "4K Coalition" part of the infobox is broken up into the 4 major members on purpose. the Karenni IEC is included in the map caption but the 4K coaltition is not in that partiuclar section. I don't really see where KNDF is being included twice EmeraldRange (talk/contribs) 00:55, 16 January 2026 (UTC)[reply]
Its part of sra too. Just tought it was funny. Like if one were to count their strenghts or mention their leaders in the infobox you'd have overlap. I think KNDF boss leads SRA if I'm not mistaken. :P Kennet Mattfolk (talk) 04:17, 16 January 2026 (UTC)[reply]
Jup, same dude, Khun Bedu https://www.irrawaddy.com/in-person/interview/interview-what-is-the-new-spring-revolution-alliance.html
He should have double flags in the infobox? Kennet Mattfolk (talk) 04:22, 16 January 2026 (UTC)[reply]
Oh I see lol yeah I don't see a good way around this so I'll leave it be. I think we can keep Bedu with the current flag. EmeraldRange (talk/contribs) 13:45, 16 January 2026 (UTC)[reply]
In the Syrian Civil War articles you often find double flags https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Northwestern_Syria_offensive_(2019%E2%80%932020), I would do the same as in that article for Ali Jaber Pasha or for Yusuf Kahia from here https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Aleppo_(2012%E2%80%932016) but I can't find the template seemingly, the {Myanmar civil war infobox}. But there is precedent for it on wikipedia. :) Kennet Mattfolk (talk) 20:44, 16 January 2026 (UTC)[reply]
It should be at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Myanmar_civil_war_infobox if you want to give it a shot EmeraldRange (talk/contribs) 01:14, 3 February 2026 (UTC)[reply]

Map Update (January)

Not too many map updates- made the following including looking through MapsByShady on X

Also added/removed a couple town labels as I felt relevant to current fronts. Let me know if you have suggests for different labelling! EmeraldRange (talk/contribs) 01:15, 3 February 2026 (UTC)[reply]

Myawaddy
https://www.irrawaddy.com/news/burma/myanmar-junta-pounds-thai-border-to-secure-trade-routes-for-new-regime.html
https://www.bnionline.net/en/news/fighting-rages-southern-myawaddy
https://www.bnionline.net/en/news/junta-deploys-troops-myawaddy-following-kna-withdrawal
My understanding is, there is both fighting in the town and around it. With the new KNA holding part of the town,or held. After its alliance with Tatmadaw broke down.
I'd at least consider the town as contested, but take a look for yourself as see what you think :) Kennet Mattfolk (talk) 03:01, 3 February 2026 (UTC)[reply]
I think it's just the confusing wording used by the BNI referring to all rural areas as the town instead of "township" (i.e. not in the town of Myawaddy). The fighting is around minletpan and the DKBA scam centres to the south not in Myawaddy itself. But I agree I missed that KNA withdrew from Myawaddy on Jan 25, but I'm still unsure on if the junta controls Myawaddy fully now of it it's "contested" peacefully somehow.
https://www.bnionline.net/en/news/some-myawaddy-bgf-members-revert-original-badges-kna-emblem This source makes me think otherwise. EmeraldRange (talk/contribs) 16:54, 3 February 2026 (UTC)[reply]
I think after some re-reading of the four sources here I think at the very least the town is "contested" even if no actual gunfights in the town itself. Would wait to characterise it as joint control if KNA continues to stay there yeah. EmeraldRange (talk/contribs) 20:57, 3 February 2026 (UTC)[reply]
Indeed, the situation is a bit chaotic and grey. Like are all the rebel factions allied now KNLA and KNA for instance and so on. Kennet Mattfolk (talk) 21:40, 3 February 2026 (UTC)[reply]
For the upcomming map update:
https://www.irrawaddy.com/news/war-against-the-junta/myanmar-junta-claims-major-gain-in-karenni-counteroffensive.html
https://www.bnionline.net/en/news/military-junta-claims-have-recaptured-hpasawng-town-while-fighting-ground-remains-intense
https://english.dvb.no/military-re-enters-karenni-states-hpasawng-after-regime-media-reports-it-under-full-naypyidaw-control/
The Irrawaddy link has an map that might be useful, based on these sources also I think the Hpasawng and maybe even Bawlakhe can be painted in the Tatmadawian colours. :) Kennet Mattfolk (talk) 15:28, 17 February 2026 (UTC)[reply]