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== COMPLAINTS ABOUT ANON WIKI EDITORS by National and Govt Security supporters of UK, Texas, DC & Aust. == |
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Much of this article and many other Wikipedia articles on the Cold War RN and RNZN classes and some NZR and USN a few USN articles arre written by uours truly a former leader writer and businees commentor and member of the Watersiders journalist with a B.Com and two poor Honours degrees of the same std as Blairs. There are sometimes attempts to block my editing by ageing retired officers and ratings. My view of this is that most of the complaints stem from South Canterbury where I grew up and were my parents were school teachers. During the final unsatistactory years of my fathers English teacher days many of his students in the forms which he taught in the last years 3.3, 3.5, 5.6 and 5.7 were very embittered as they never seemed to grasp they had zero chance of passing SC English, my fathers theory on this bien that SC English in the 1970s was almost entirely an IQ test ( 85% correlation ) and that most would perform at the same standard regardless of the teacher input and the other half lose 10 mmarks if the cheacher effort minimal or poor. The low grade constituency and their complaints and recycled myths are a major reason for national winning the seat and turning it from a safe labour seat to the safest pair of National seats. Also in the area are the farms once owned by the Elworthy family the former British CDS whose career involved being Number 2 to, Bomber Harris, and in 1963 Air Marshall of the RAF, at the same time Curtis Le May was Chief of the USAF. Elworthy and his mates were prominent in the anti nuclear Plains group of former British landed aristocrats formed in North Otago to opposed the Lange - Clark governments nuclear ship ban. But I rather think I first came to the Elworthies attention when during the lunch break at the Waiamte CC in March/ April 82 I monopolised the hour for several days explaining my expectation, that their was a high probabilty that the entire RN task force would be destroyed by, the Kfirs, A-4s and Entendards of the Argentinian Navy and Air Force given that for the previous six months upon completing my MA, I had been completing a non published draft on the RNZN and RN which calucualted that Seacat, Seaslug and the various 4.5 guns used by the RN would not shoot down a single modern jet aircraft ( I recknoned it was mathematically close to impossible) and I also beilieved the RNs AW was 4th class, cf with the 1960s and that I doubted if the Mk 46 torpedo was of any use as well given its short non corrected range and dubious sppeed claim. I said that the Argentinian pilots would in some cases be as good as Gonzales, Reutemann and Fangio ( 3/15 best ever) and they would pray with the Argentine and Nazi flags on their legs before takeoff like a Bok Rugby team of the mid 20C. I was almost right. So Im sure Id already enraged the Elworthies by then. |
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I have never seen the job of defence writer as PR, protecting the image and jobs of ratings or boositing recruitment. I became interested in freelance journalism to make money, and specifically in 1983 to oppose Muldoons disastorous low grade mass recuitment policies for the military and railways. 10 Holland class OPVs and half a dozen Orions or P8s were pretty much the lines I was always thinking along. Most of all that meant with crews of 50-90 effective discipline and an intergrated service would evolve. |
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The opponemts of the Royalist the Asian UN MFAT officials like Corner and the former Reserve officer Phipps seem to me to have no undertanding of post WW2 warfare as for eg the twin X |
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IX 4 inch was not a superior weapon, it was obsolete post WW2 and even then and clearly inaccurate and useless agains the Mig 15s and Badgers flown by the Egyptians. |
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Dekhelia
Part of the caption of the 'Seafire' photograph states: "...the Royal Naval Air Station at Dekhelia, Egypt...".
Is this correct? I know of a 'Dekhelia' in Cyprus, but have never heard of a 'Dekhelia' in Egypt. I can find nothing on Wikipedia on an Egyptian Dekhelia, either RASAM (talk) 21:05, 15 August 2011 (UTC)
With photo captions, I work on the 'what (or who), where and when' principal. So, not knowing the full story on 'Dekhelia', (see above), I did a bit of trawling and found that while most of the information on the internet is indeed about the Dekhelia in Cyprus, (in a variety of spellings), there was a brief mention, in a memoir-driven site, of a Dekhalia near Alexandria in Eygpt.
It just goes to show, one should not always take what one believes at face value.
RASAM (talk) 10:55, 16 August 2011 (UTC)
COMPLAINTS ABOUT ANON WIKI EDITORS by National and Govt Security supporters of UK, Texas, DC & Aust.
Much of this article and many other Wikipedia articles on the Cold War RN and RNZN classes and some NZR and USN a few USN articles arre written by uours truly a former leader writer and businees commentor and member of the Watersiders journalist with a B.Com and two poor Honours degrees of the same std as Blairs. There are sometimes attempts to block my editing by ageing retired officers and ratings. My view of this is that most of the complaints stem from South Canterbury where I grew up and were my parents were school teachers. During the final unsatistactory years of my fathers English teacher days many of his students in the forms which he taught in the last years 3.3, 3.5, 5.6 and 5.7 were very embittered as they never seemed to grasp they had zero chance of passing SC English, my fathers theory on this bien that SC English in the 1970s was almost entirely an IQ test ( 85% correlation ) and that most would perform at the same standard regardless of the teacher input and the other half lose 10 mmarks if the cheacher effort minimal or poor. The low grade constituency and their complaints and recycled myths are a major reason for national winning the seat and turning it from a safe labour seat to the safest pair of National seats. Also in the area are the farms once owned by the Elworthy family the former British CDS whose career involved being Number 2 to, Bomber Harris, and in 1963 Air Marshall of the RAF, at the same time Curtis Le May was Chief of the USAF. Elworthy and his mates were prominent in the anti nuclear Plains group of former British landed aristocrats formed in North Otago to opposed the Lange - Clark governments nuclear ship ban. But I rather think I first came to the Elworthies attention when during the lunch break at the Waiamte CC in March/ April 82 I monopolised the hour for several days explaining my expectation, that their was a high probabilty that the entire RN task force would be destroyed by, the Kfirs, A-4s and Entendards of the Argentinian Navy and Air Force given that for the previous six months upon completing my MA, I had been completing a non published draft on the RNZN and RN which calucualted that Seacat, Seaslug and the various 4.5 guns used by the RN would not shoot down a single modern jet aircraft ( I recknoned it was mathematically close to impossible) and I also beilieved the RNs AW was 4th class, cf with the 1960s and that I doubted if the Mk 46 torpedo was of any use as well given its short non corrected range and dubious sppeed claim. I said that the Argentinian pilots would in some cases be as good as Gonzales, Reutemann and Fangio ( 3/15 best ever) and they would pray with the Argentine and Nazi flags on their legs before takeoff like a Bok Rugby team of the mid 20C. I was almost right. So Im sure Id already enraged the Elworthies by then. I have never seen the job of defence writer as PR, protecting the image and jobs of ratings or boositing recruitment. I became interested in freelance journalism to make money, and specifically in 1983 to oppose Muldoons disastorous low grade mass recuitment policies for the military and railways. 10 Holland class OPVs and half a dozen Orions or P8s were pretty much the lines I was always thinking along. Most of all that meant with crews of 50-90 effective discipline and an intergrated service would evolve. The opponemts of the Royalist the Asian UN MFAT officials like Corner and the former Reserve officer Phipps seem to me to have no undertanding of post WW2 warfare as for eg the twin X IX 4 inch was not a superior weapon, it was obsolete post WW2 and even then and clearly inaccurate and useless agains the Mig 15s and Badgers flown by the Egyptians.




