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Big Brother and the Holding Company's 'Cheap Thrills' is not a compilation album, by our common definition of that term. Also, Elvis Presley is inaccurately referred to as a contemporary of Del Rey. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 97.80.156.7 (talk) 03:50, 5 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

The interview that's available online that references the cult leader says she 'considered joining' the cult, not that she was part of it. Also since Lana is a character and not Lizzie herself, can we also consider this part of the 'mythology' of Lana (since beyond naming a 'cult' there's no further back up for it, ie. name of cult, leader, people, etc) and make it less of a concrete fact? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sarcastathon (talk • contribs) 23:21, 11 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I have the magazine that is used as a source for that sentence. Here is her statement in German:

"Ich gehörte mal zu einer Underground-Szene, die von einem Guru beherrscht wurde. Der umgab sich mit jungen Mädchen und hatte eine Wahnsinnsausstrahlung, der auch ich mich nicht entziehen konnte. Ich war also bei dieser, ich nenne es mal Sekte, weil ich mich nach Liebe unde Geborgenheit sehnte. Aber dann stellte ich irgendwann fest, dass dieser Guru kein guter, sondern ein böser Mensch ist. Er fand, dass man Leute erst brechen muss, um sie wieder aufzubauen. Am Ende stieg ich aus."

And here is my translation:

"I used to belong to this underground scene that was ruled by a guru. He surrounded himself with young girls and had an amazing presence even I couldn’t resist. So I was in this, let me call it a cult, because I longed for love and security. But someday I realised that this guru wasn’t a good, but a bad, person. He felt like you needed to break people down to build them back up. At the end I got out."

How do you know that "Lana Del Rey" is a character and this story is fictional? She says it like it really happened to her so that's how we need to write it. Littlecarmen (talk) 13:43, 12 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

She was never in a cult. That's clearly defined in the New York Times source. Which I would find more credible. Which source do you think people are going to read? The one in English or the one in German? It says: "The lyrics also mention a “cult leader,” and Ms. Del Rey said the song looked back to a time soon after she moved to New York City, when she considered following a guru who “believed in breaking you down to build you back up again" http://www.nytimes.com/2014/06/15/arts/music/lana-del-rey-still-stirs-things-up-with-ultraviolence.html?_r=1 Cheers!2601:4:1500:C90:F8CF:BCB5:9098:73D4 (talk) 02:58, 17 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

In the German interview, she very clearly says she did belong to an "underground scene" which she called a cult. The German interview directly quotes her while the New York Times article paraphrased whatever she told them. Both sources are credible. They both conducted interviews with her. I actually find the German interview more important as a source since she is directly quoted. This should not be ignored just because The New York Times is more well-known than Grazia. Littlecarmen (talk) 09:11, 17 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Wrong, New York Times reporter Jon Pareles conducted an interview with her himself.

https://www.facebook.com/lanadelrey?filter=3

http://artsbeat.blogs.nytimes.com/2014/06/27/popcast-lana-del-rey-downcast-superstar/

http://tribune.com.pk/story/722588/lana-del-reys-love-for-death/

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/06/13/lana-del-rey-wish-dead_n_5491375.html

On her facebook page, she refers to his article as being the truth. Has she made any statement that the quotes in Grazia are the truth? I have removed the quote until sources are confirmed one way or another. Dkspartan1 (talk) 17:21, 17 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, I know he conducted an interview. I never said he didn't. I was just saying that her Grazia statement is a direct quote and the NYT paraphrased whatever she said in the interview. Unless Del Rey says otherwise, every statement of hers in every interview must be seen as the truth. Littlecarmen (talk) 17:33, 17 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

What I was saying is that the cult leader isn't named, an actual time period isn't named, the guru isn't named. I understand she said it in an interview and I'm not saying you have to take it out, just that maybe it's a good idea to change the wording of the sentence as it is all quite vague and nebulous as a statement. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2.122.15.110 (talk) 20:21, 30 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

she is 27 years old not 29. the brith date is wrong. it was correct a few days ago so somebody changed it recently.

See the section above you. She was born on June 21, 1985, and is 29 years old. Littlecarmen (talk) 11:38, 21 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Under the "Career" heading, subsection "2011–13: Born to Die, Paradise, and Tropico," Paragraph 3, it says "Ride" became available for purchase on September 25, 2013. Shouldn't that be 2012, since that's when the "Paradise" EP was released? Bnewall1 (talk) 06:30, 22 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Fixed Littlecarmen (talk) 09:51, 22 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Can the entire page be proof read. Her name is Lana Del Rey and not Ray. It says Lana Del Ray in the known a space too and throughout the document. Jamiehenriques12 (talk) 20:33, 10 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Done, no changes necessary. She did release her first album with the spelling Ray, so that is correct to refer to the album and her during that time period. —C.Fred (talk) 20:37, 10 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I read:

Amongst her musical influences, Del Rey cites several contemporary artists such as Elvis Presley, Antony and the Johnsons, Frank Sinatra, Eminem and Amy Winehouse.

Elvis Presley: long dead. Frank Sinatra: long dead. Eminem: alive, but a name from the past. Amy Winehouse: dead (though recently so). (Antony and the Johnsons: I've no idea.) What does "contemporary" mean here? -- Hoary (talk) 14:15, 12 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

It occurred to me that "contemporary music" might have some additional, non-obvious meaning. Sure enough, "contemporary music" takes me to "contemporary classical music", which tells me: "Contemporary music" and "Contemporary art music" redirect here. For other forms of contemporary music, see Popular music. (But the word "contemporary" appears nowhere within the latter article.)

How about: Amongst her influences, Del Rey cites several popular musicians such as Elvis Presley, Antony and the Johnsons, Frank Sinatra, Eminem and Amy Winehouse?

(I note from the top of this talk page that it's not just me who's puzzled by "contemporary".) -- Hoary (talk) 00:21, 13 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Pretty When You Cry (song) was recently expanded from a redirect, but contains little information. Is this song notable enough for its own article? ---Another Believer _(Talk) 16:30, 14 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

This image of her has been up for over three years now, while there are a handful of other better, and more recent images of her (specifically ones of her performing). Why exactly is there a notice to consult on the Talk page before changing the photo? At this point, the photo of Del Rey in 2012 promoting her first album would be better placed in the body of the article for context, while a more recent photo would make more sense in the inbox (especially since her look has slightly shifted).