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Please replace with the current sandbox. Although the code looks very different, there are only three changes: an alternate "titlebackground" variable (avoiding US/UK "colo/u/r"); a tweak in the labels' linewrap and spacing management; and an nbsp in label2. Thanks, Sardanaphalus (talk) 10:18, 1 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

• Not done: please establish a consensus for this alteration before using the {{edit template-protected}} template. There are a lot of changes here, and some of them are controversial (adding variables are often objected to). Also, many of the extra formatting changes to the template source shouldn't be there, label and data need to have their own lines. I would clear out the sandbox, copy over the live template and only add the minimal to it for the functionality you request. — {{U|Technical 13}} ^{(t • e • c)} 12:56, 1 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

• Done, with the addition of an nbsp to label1 but without inclusion of the alternate "titlebackground" name. Please now implement. Sardanaphalus (talk) 20:00, 1 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Done Okay, I've performed that change for you. I'm also not opposed to adding the alternate "titlebackground" name. Just code it in as simply as possible without moving a bunch of other stuff around. :) — {{U|Technical 13}} ^{(t • e • c)} 13:45, 2 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you. Sardanaphalus (talk) 00:49, 3 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

We are undertaking a project of linking Wikipedia records for Australian artists to their biographies in the Design and Art Australia Online repository of biographies. This is an academic project with government funding.

We considered subclassing the artists' infobox but after discussion with other editors it was decided to add a single extra field (daao_record) to the artists' infobox instead.

We have created a sample record at Mike_Parr to demonstrate the usage. We are working on a small sandbox project to test the automatic linking of appropriate records.

This would be better in the {{Authority control}} template, along with similar identifiers. At least for now - I have proposed that that template be merged into biographical infoboxes in the long run. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 10:25, 20 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Agree, re the first bit anyway. The "example" has no infobox, so I'm puzzled. This should also be raised at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Visual arts which gets more viewers than here. Johnbod (talk) 11:40, 20 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry I was called away ;) I'd not saved the edit on the example page. Thanks to both of you for your feedback. I'll follow those up. Queen Victoria (talk) 11:51, 20 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

The value entered as |daao_record= in the Mike Parr article (after I fixed the formatting) is [http://www.daao.org.au/bio/mike-parr/biography/]. Since it uses his name rather than a UID sting, it may not be suitable as an {{Authority control}} identifier. How would they deal with another artist of the same name? Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 12:20, 20 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I've added this as an issue to Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Visual_arts#Add_DAAO_record_field_to_infobox as you suggested. There I outline the issues with using the DAAO as an Authority control. Shall we continue over there? Queen Victoria (talk) 12:49, 20 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

PS: Thanks for the fixes ;) Queen Victoria (talk) 12:50, 20 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I would like to suggest a new optional parameter, ethnicity. To show its usefulness, consider for example the case of Italian or German artists active before 1861 (Italian unification) or 1871 (German Unification): they cannot be defined as being Italian/German nationals, since Italy/Germany did not exist at that time. In those cases, at present we use the parameter "nationality", giving to it the meaning of ethnicity. With the new parameter we could either leave the nationality parameter empty or use it to describe the state where they were citizen/subject (for example, in the case of Titian, the Republic of Venice). In all the other cases (when ethnicity and nationality coincide), we can ignore the ethnicity and fill only the nationality field. Alex2006 (talk) 08:13, 25 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Please could we add a DAAO record field? The daao_record field is a new URL field that points to the Design and Art Australia Online biography of the artist. The DAAO provides high quality, community moderated biographies of Australian practitioners.

There is an uncontroversial discussion on the WikiProject_Visual_arts page and (earlier) on the Template_talk page for Infobox_artist.

I have implemented the change in the sandbox and added a test case here (its a sub page of the normal test case as I didn't want Vincent to be deleted or attributed a DAAO record). Sandbox testcase here.

Thanks! Queen Victoria (talk) 02:54, 6 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Hmmm... Not much of a discussion. If no one comments, I'll apply it in a few days.—cyberpower ^Chat_Online 23:47, 9 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

•  Working — {{U|Technical 13}} ^{(e • t • c)} 16:27, 14 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • Okay, so I've made some changes in the sandbox so this works more efficiently and gives a clearer result. Queen Victoria, do these changes look good to you and do what you want? In order to get this extra row to show, all that the editor needs to do is put in the name of the person from the URL (E.G. |daao_record=mike-par) and the template will do the rest. If the url is always the name of the person, and always uses hyphens to replace spaces, it is possible to adjust the template further to automatically add the link without the |daao_record= parameter (which would still be available for overrides) but instead take the |name= and convert it to lowercase and replace the spaces with hyphens if "most" of these artists have daao records. Please ping me with your answers to those questions and we'll develop more in the sandbox until we come up with some good code and then I'll apply it for you. Andy, do you have anything to add here? — {{U|Technical 13}} ^{(e • t • c)} 16:52, 14 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]
    • I'd avoid doing anything so clever; consider William Morrison Wyllie aka William Wyllie. Also, we should be able to pull data from Wikidata. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 17:01, 14 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]
      • Well, those types of cases are why there would still need to be a |daao_record= parameter that would override the attempt to automatically detect. Simply for those edge cases. — {{U|Technical 13}} ^{(e • t • c)} 17:39, 14 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I feel like this is a bad addition to the template. Sites like DAAO are better used as references in the article. This could easily get out of hand as we could add many, many other websites with artist pages to the infobox. Some things just aren't meant for the infobox, and external links just aren't (except for an official website). -- Netoholic @ 21:31, 18 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]