See Talk:Hurt:_The_EP#Chronology. — Lil_℧niquℇ №1 ^[talk] 21:32, 12 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Can some clarification be included in the guidelines to differentiate songs from singles? At the moment singles need to meet WP:GNG requirements, while songs need only to be "ranked on national or significant music charts". Numerous AfD's are using this clause to write articles on tracks off albums, which have not been released as singles but (via I-tunes or other download sites) have charted all the same. It would seem to make more sense to me that officially released singles have more chance of being 'notable' than unofficially released tracks. Sionk (talk) 11:27, 19 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

In the WP:COMPOSER #1 "Has credit for writing or co-writing either lyrics or music for a notable composition.", what does "composition" stand for? Does this mean musical composition or does any media suffice -- theater, film, video game, etc.? As a side question, what does "notable" stand for -- Wikipedia's notability? —  HELLKNOWZ  ▎TALK 22:44, 30 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

How is music written for "theater, film, video game, etc." not compositions? ♫ Melodia Chaconne ♫ (talk) 01:38, 31 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

So the wording should be "notable musical composition" (irregardless if it is or is not a part of some bigger media), not just "composition", right? —  HELLKNOWZ  ▎TALK 09:02, 31 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I think what Melodia is saying is that "composition" refers to all music created, regardless of media. I concur. However, please note that just because a particular game or movie is notable, this does not mean that the soundtrack is notable. Notability is not inherited. LK (talk) 04:29, 31 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, that's pretty much how I interpreted that. —  HELLKNOWZ  ▎TALK 09:02, 31 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I was puzzling over what kind of non-musical composition might be at issue in your question, trying to read between the lines. Perhaps you were thinking of something like the spoken dialogue in the book of a musical play or movie? Anyhow, LK's hit the mark. The GNG is clear, and to be verifiably notable, there must be a RS that has already taken note. (I've always thought that wp:Notability should be called wp:Noted, it would be much less confusing to newbies). LeadSongDog come howl! 15:01, 31 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I tried to stay pretty neutral with my question, but the AfD that prompted me to clarify is here. To me GNG is also clear, but this clause makes it seem like composing for any composition (musical or otherwise) would make one notable. —  HELLKNOWZ  ▎TALK 15:32, 31 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Hi. I'm seeking input on a few articles about tours that I believe fail WP:NCONCERT. I also have a few concerns regarding the content of them (see here for example). These are both created by the same user who has a history of similar articles and content. I've had little success getting him to collaborate or follow policy and guidelines, so second opinions and input would be much appreciated. Articles are;

• Greatest Hits + (2013)
• Simple Minds' Festival Tour 2012

Thanks. --Escape Orbit ^(Talk) 10:54, 1 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, I would appreciate it if you could please take some time to comment at Talk:Trouble_(Leona_Lewis_song)#How_is_iTunes_messed_up. Thanks — Lil_℧niquℇ №1 ^[talk] 23:23, 3 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

WP:NSONG is very difficult to read a glance and its prose is meshed into two separate ideas. The guidelines are very ambiguous and seem to warn editors over circumstances than providing clear criteria to warrant any outline for inclusion. It also contains some very instructions for A9 for which there is already criteria. I know policies usually don't reference each other but it seems traditional songs tend to be a common problem. Could I propose the following changes and format (if this is the right place for this discussion):

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