Europe
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The Africa template has the following code that prevents redlinks in the titles: |title = {{#if:{{{title|}}} | {{{title}}} | {{#ifexist:{{{1|{{{prefix|}}}}}}_Africa{{{2|{{{suffix|}}}}}} | [[{{{1|{{{prefix|}}}}}} Africa{{{2|{{{suffix|}}}}}}]] | {{{1|{{{prefix|}}}}}} Africa{{{2|{{{suffix|}}}}}} }} }} See Category:Bahá'í_Faith_by_country for an example of how these templates look side by side. Could this be implemented here too please. Thanks AndrewRT(Talk) 23:57, 4 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Y Done AndrewRT(Talk) 23:34, 30 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

just passing by to let anyone watching this template know that the footnote for superscript 1 is missing. If I knew what it is I would fix it. Regards—G716 <^T·_C> 02:35, 21 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

OK, this template is getting out of hand. Sometime last year, someone has added every region of Russia that has "autonomous" in its name, and also Vojvodina. The way I see it, if we are ridiculous, we should be ridiculous all the way, and add all the autonomous regions of Spain and Italy, the Free State of Bavaria and a host of other things; or, we could remove these and only leave territories that really enjoy a special status. Nikola (talk) 05:44, 21 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I agree with you. I would even go further and include only fully recognised nations and territories. --Axt (talk) 17:00, 1 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

However, there are 21 republic in Russian Federation. They are not just autonomies like Vojvodina, but fully non-Russian nations.--Riwnodennyk ✉ 19:01, 1 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Unfortunately your arguments fall down with the UK - in sporting terms, it's much more common to have Scottish, English and Welsh teams/leagues/set ups than purely British ones. As regards the Republics of Russia, many/most of these are not in Europe, but in central Asia. I would consider adding the Basque Country as well as Catalonia, as there are good arguments to do so. The German Laender have distinct identities, but don't have their own quasi-national set ups, like Scotland and Wales, and to a lesser extent Catalonia and the Basque Country.--MacRusgail (talk) 17:33, 23 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I completely agree with Nikola. The Russian republics cannot even choose their own leader, unlike most second-level political subdivisions in many (all?) EU countries. Only entities with an outstanding degree of de-facto political autonomy should be included IMO, if any. --Roentgenium111 (talk) 19:02, 8 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Essentially zero uses of this template when used with a parameter have the Russian autonomies bluelinked, nor should bluelinks for these regions exist. They are geographically and politically within Russia but have limited autonomy. As pointed out above, these have nothing special about them and they are never listed on any other list of European territories. There is no reason for these redlinks to appear in practically every usage of this template, or even bluelinks. I have removed them. Reywas92^Talk 18:48, 21 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Similar situation with russian autonomies is in the Template:Asia topic. Alinor (talk) 17:55, 24 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Also, I am not sure why we have Azores/Malderia, but no Canares (eg. maybe we should list all three or neighter)? Alinor (talk) 17:57, 24 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Items should be included if a reasonable user might look for them. We are not making statements about geography, politics or tectonics, simply speeding users navigation of WP. Armenia is for example a member of the Council of Europe. I propose we simply reduce the number of footnotes to one, "Not always considered part of Europe". Rich Farmbrough, 16:06 30 January 2009 (UTC).

Good idea. Ben MacDui 17:37, 30 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I have severe reservations about the use of the switch "regions of" with this template and its potential for confusing readers - please see Template_talk:Regions of Europe (a template duplicated by the use of this switch) and Wikipedia:Templates for deletion/Log/2009 March 2#Template:Regions of Europe for details. Knepflerle (talk) 01:33, 2 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Is it possible to suppress the use of the "|article=yes" parameter on {{i2c}} for particular values of {{{prefix}}}? When the country name is intended as the first word of a title, the current code generates names such as Category:The United Kingdom templates, instead of Category:United Kingdom templates, which would make more sense. (See {{Europe templates}} for the source of this example, where {{{prefix}}} is ':Category:'.) --R'n'B (call me Russ) 16:02, 18 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Answered my own question -- included "article = no" in the parameters of {{Europe templates}} and that solved the problem. --R'n'B (call me Russ) 16:33, 18 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

In the section of dependencies and autonomous regions, appears Catalonia, but I don't see the Basque Country? The Basque Country has more history, conflicts, own police, and it has the most autonomous regional government of Spain. I don't understand why some appears and other don't. --An13sa (talk) 16:13, 14 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I would back a proposal to include the Basque Country on that basis.--MacRusgail (talk) 17:34, 23 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I would also--Lemonade100 (talk) 19:27, 1 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

This sounds citiation. Please provide sources that would indicated that Armenia is "historically considered European". Incusion of other Caucasian countries is doubtful as well BTW. Netrat (talk) 17:08, 15 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

It is actually pretty common to include Armenia in a list of European countries, but exactly what Kazakhstan is doing on here described as a European country is another matter...--MacRusgail (talk) 12:09, 23 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

It seems to be pretty random which countries have this designation and which are "Partially or entirely in Asia, depending on the border definitions." I'm inclined to combine them into a single footnote if no one objects. EeepEeep (talk) 08:06, 17 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Currently the "Europe topic" template is divided in three sections: sovereign states, other entities (sui-generis supranational entity - EU, sovereign non-state entitiy - SMOM), dependencies/autonomies/territories.

• The second can be shown/hidden with the parameter "no_other_entities=yes".
• The third can be shown/hidden with the parameter "countries_only=yes".

Additionaly there are four entity-specific show/hide parameters:

• links to non-existing articles for the Vatican City are not shown (done with #ifexist extension)
• if some topic is not applicable to ALL of the UK constituent countries the corresponding links can be hidden with the parameter "UK_only=yes"
• if some topic is not applicable to the European Union the corresponding link can be hidden with the parameter "no_EU=yes"
• if some topic is not applicable to the European Union the corresponding link can be hidden with the parameter "no_SMOM=yes"

Using #ifexist vs. explicit "do-not-show"-parameter:

In general links to non-existing articles can be usefull, because if there is no "Culture of France" article and some reader of the "Culture of Italy" article sees the red link in the template on the bottom and he can contribute and create the missing article. Additionaly it is very common for the Vatican/EU/SMOM articles to have different names (for example instead of "Vatican City" in the name, as used in the template link, the appropriate article can be with "Holy See". The same is with European Union/European Commission/etc., Sovereign Military Order/Order of Malta/Military Order of Malta/etc. combinations). Additioanly the prefixes like "in/of/to" and the use/no use of "the" before EU/SMOM/Vatican are different for most entities on the template and these three. One example for such discrepancy is the following: "Diplomatic missions to the Holy See" instead of the generic link that the template creates: "Diplomatic missions in Vatican City" (in this example we have all three errors in linking: "to/in", "the", name-difference). This is easy avoided by creating the appropriate redirects, but in order to do this the template should show the corresponding red link to non-existing article (then the users can click on it, search, find the appropriate article and creat redirect).

A positive side of "#ifexist" is its automatic application, without manualy adding a "do-not-show".

Should the Vatican-option be changed to "do-not-show" or some of the UK/EU/SMOM options to "#ifexist"?Alinor (talk) 09:04, 13 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Roman Catholicism in Europe is a total mess in regards to the UK. For a start the Catholic Church never has been organised on the basis of the UK: it organises on the basis of England & Wales, Ireland (the whole island, ie. both the Republic + NI) and Scotland.

If you click on the England or Wales links in the template you get redirected to the E&W article. If you click on the Rep of Ire or NI links you get redirected to the Ireland article. It is unclear why there is even a Wikipedia article on Roman catholicism in the UK -> it seems to have been created purely to turn the redlink in this template blue. It is a non-subject.

Please advise on how to fix this mess. --Mais oui! (talk) 06:54, 22 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

From User_talk:Alinor: I'm glad you see the value in the Europe topic template. Would it be possible to work the code on Template:Europe topic so that it only includes links to the European Union and the Sovereign Military Order of Malta when specified rather than when not specified? These two entities do not apply to the vast majority of current uses of the template and their inclusion should be treated as an exception rather than the rule. There are just too many articles that would need to be edited in order to remove the current inappropriate redlinks.Neelix (talk) 00:01, 13 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Done, but it could be done better. Alinor (talk) 12:19, 13 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Could I request that we move the "constitutent countries of the United Kingdom to the Territories, Regiond etc... group instead of putting them with the UK in the cuntries box. --Lemonade100 (talk) 18:40, 29 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not sure I agree. The nations of the UK have always had a special differentiation that no other country in Europe has mirrored. Many people cannot think of the UK without thinking of its being made up of its four constituent countries. The article Terminology of the British Isles also includes a fair bit on what is meant by the many often confused terms applied to the islands and its nations, so it's fitting to put their links next to it. And moving them to the last section would be classifying them on the same level as the Isle of Man and the Channel Islands, which is neither fair nor appropriate in my opinion. Andrei Iosifovich (talk) 14:32, 8 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

They more integral than Isle of mann or the channel islands so it would be more fair for the countries to move and the crown dependancies to fill the space they left. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Lemonade100 (talk • contribs) 19:18, 1 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Disagree per Andrei Iosifovich - and the proposed inclusion of Yorkshire is eccentric to say the least. Ben MacDui 08:40, 17 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The template is somewhat incorrect in this respect as it links to the defunct bodies of the "Parliament of Northern Ireland" and the "Parliament of Scotland". Can this be changed to reflect the modern institutions of the Northern Ireland Assembly and the Scottish Parliament? Benson85 (talk) 02:22, 24 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Only by changing the target pages into redirects that point to the modern institutions. --Jhattara ^{(Talk · Contrib)} 17:39, 28 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I agree with the alterations, I think it shows the United Kingdom as one country rather than a federation of which the template implies. I would like to add that i think of the UK as Great Britain and Northern Ireland not the four former countries that now make it up Gbsj (talk) 20:27, 23 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Hello Gbsj, and welcome to Wikipedia. As you are a new editor we can't expect you to be up-to-speed with all our complex policies so forgive me if the following seems a little arcane. It is a comment for more experienced editors who may draw their own conclusions. Compare this diff with this. Ben MacDui 21:11, 23 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

From what I understand of the template, it is structured so that a country's name need only be put in and it will create a link of "Name of X"; however, many of these are redirect links. To me it seems like a roundabout way of doing things. This way of creating the navbox is not especially faster or easier to create or maintain. I understand that remaking the template from scratch might take a while, but wouldn't it be better if the links went directly to the appropriate pages? The main objection I would accept is if this is supposedly too confusing; for example, if I scroll over the Wales link and see "Walha", I might not trust the link. Otherwise, though, this box seems very indirect. Andrei Iosifovich (talk) 14:32, 8 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Why appears catalonia in this template and it don't appear basque country, andalusia, or community of madrid? there are autonomous regions too. 89.141.14.171 (talk) 21:57, 1 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I removed Catalonia from the template. --Jhattara ^{(Talk · Contrib)} 07:24, 2 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I disagree with this. Catalonia, the Basque Country and Galicia should be included in this template as autonomous nations within the Spanish state. Andalucia and some of the others are a little vaguer.--MacRusgail (talk) 21:26, 9 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Spain is composed of 17 autonomous communities and 5 places of sovereignty. The autonomous communities have some differences between the levels of power they have in their use, but none of those (AFAIK) are remarkably wider than the others have. If some of the communities would be included it's very hard to define the exact limits for an autonomous community that would be included in here. Basque Country, Catalonia, Galicia and Andalusia were the original historic nations, but nowadays also Valencia, Canaries, Balears and Aragon define themselves as nations. If the existance of independent law enforcement would be the definition then Basque Country, Navarre and Catalonia would be automatically included with provisions for including e.g. Andalusia and Madrid. In short: it's a thin red line that would be used to include or exclude some of the autonomous communities. --Jhattara ^{(Talk · Contrib)} 10:13, 10 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

It may well be, but the Basques, Catalans and Galicians seem to have the best defined identity, as well as a long history. Andalucia and the Canaries are distinct, but I don't find it as easy to make a case for them.--MacRusgail (talk) 15:41, 17 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah, but you'd still have to find that one certain distinguishing factor that would apply to all of those included, to none of those not included, and be somewhat significant in broader sense. --Jhattara ^{(Talk · Contrib)} 18:47, 17 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I was wondering if there is some way that Israel could be included for certain purposes. I am well aware that it is not a European country, but for political reasons, it is a member of European sporting, broadcasting etc bodies.--MacRusgail (talk) 21:32, 9 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I'm afraid that would be too controversial edit. It would be easier to create separate templates where needed, like the {{European Broadcasting Union Members}}. --Jhattara ^{(Talk · Contrib)} 10:17, 10 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

You are right Israel is not in Europe. It only participates in European events because the middle east prevents it taking part on Asian or Middle eastern events. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Lemonade100 (talk • contribs) 19:37, 1 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

As I said to begin with... :)--MacRusgail (talk) 15:39, 17 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I came here after noticing that the headline for the navbox for parliaments reads Parliament of Europe. Am I the only that thinks this should be corrected to the proper plaural form Parliaments of Europe? I would just be bold and fix it myself, but this template is a complex, interconnected one that allows for its use on many different topics, and I really don't want to break it. oknazevad (talk) 15:08, 21 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Same issue with National Library of Europe. LokiClock (talk) 14:02, 18 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

You can change {{Europe topic|prefix=National Library of}} into {{Europe topic|prefix=National Library of|title=National Libraries of Europe}} (like I did on Clementinum), but you have to change it on each article that uses this template to list European National Libraries. Svick (talk) 14:52, 18 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Currently the template is roughly divided into 'normal states' and 'unrecognised states, autonomous entities etc.'. This division is sometimes employed to have a template appear only with the former, for example in Template:Military of Europe. This makes sense because autonomous enitities typically don't have their own armies. However, the same does not hold true for the states with limited recognition (Abkhazia, Kosovo, Northern Cyprus, South Ossetia and Transnistria). Even worse, I can't think of a single situation where a topic makes sense for normal states but doesn't for states with limited recognition. I therefore propose that the states with limited recognition be grouped separetely, in between normal states and autonomous entities, with independent parameter settings.sephia karta | di mi 12:37, 11 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Why does the other entities section show up as just a dot sometimes? It should either show the items in the section, or the section should not show at all. - Trevor MacInnis ^contribs 19:05, 18 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

For some quite bizarre reason, Iran is included as one of the countries listed under "Law enforcement in Europe." This entry should presumably be removed and stay removed unless someone can come up with a cogent argument as to why Iran is actually a European state. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.25.13.43 (talk) 02:03, 12 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Where did you see that? Svick (talk) 02:45, 12 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

My apologies. If you go to the page for Law enforcement in France, at the bottom there is a box entitled "Law enforcement in Europe;" it is there that you'll find Iran listed as a European country. I've tried to fix it but, being relatively new to this Wikipedia lark, I can't seem to figure it out. Any ideas on how to fix this?

As an aside, I must say that I find it rather unintuitive that the 'e' link on that box doesn't actually allow one to edit the contents of the box; instead it seems to be a link to edit the template from which the box is derived. This is a terribly silly way of doing things. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.25.13.43 (talk) 04:48, 13 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

There is no Iran in that box. And if you looked at the code of that page, you would see that the box is created by the code {{Europe topic|Law enforcement in}}, so this template is the place where you can edit that box. Svick (talk) 11:12, 13 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

It might not be there now, but it certainly was there. This is quite bizarre. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.25.13.43 (talk) 14:24, 13 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

A discussion is taking place here on how best to incorporate unrecognised states into a navigation template listing sovereign states and other entities. Some editors have suggested that including such states at all is pushing an imbalanced point of view. Others have made the same argument for not including them. Various conciliatory methods have been proposed, but have not acheived consensus. Editors should note that the outcome of this discussion will most likely have implications on this template aswell. For more information, please have a look at this casefile, or see the before-mentioned discussion page. Night w (talk) 04:06, 13 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Can the template add an article for EU? Like The United Kingdom and The Netherlands. Right now the EU links have to go via a specially created redirect of the title with the in it. Thanks.- _J.Logan`^t: 10:04, 3 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

 Done. If the article without “the” exists, it is considered first (even if it's just a redirect, see {{Extreme points of Europe}}), but if it doesn't, the variant with “the” is used (see {{Religion in Europe}}). Svick (talk) 12:53, 3 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I can see how Cyprus is a problem, as an island nation it is naturally not part of any "continent" strictly speaking but the Republic of Cyprus is of course as much part of the European Union as the Republic of Ireland. The question is what to do with Northern Cyprus. Not a member of the EU, not in Europe, not widely recognized, but on the territory claimed by Cyprus, which is a member of the EU.

On the other hand, in my opinion, there can be no debate about Armenia, Nakhchivan and Nagorno-Karabakh. These are simply not in Europe by any definition. We might as well list Australia because of "socio-political ties" to Britain. --dab (𒁳) 10:00, 11 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

This was discussed on multiple occasions and the conslusion is that both Cyprus and Armenia remain, but with note for "geographicaly asian"... Alinor (talk)

What does this template have to do with politics? Why are we organizing cuisines in terms of "recognized states" etc.?

We should list cuisines in a different order. Perhaps we should organize by region (group Balkan cuisines together etc). That makes more sense than the current arrangement.

Bless sins (talk) 17:10, 15 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

This template isn't just for cuisines, but also for various other subjects, including those that deal with politics. --Jhattara ^{(Talk · Contrib)} 17:40, 15 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

{{editsemiprotected}} Please include Armenia in the Europe topic due to the fact that Armenia is a country is partially or entirely in Asia, depending on the border definitions such as Azerbaijan, Cyprus, Georgia.

Minasyan (talk) 07:24, 25 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Added Armenia, but not because of border definitions, but rather because of EU and CoE. --Jhattara ^{(Talk · Contrib)} 10:01, 25 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Did you note my comment of 11 May right above? How about trying to seek consensus instead of simply reverting the edit? What sort of request is "Please include Armenia in the Europe topic due to the fact that Armenia as a country is partially or entirely in Asia"?? Perhaps we should include Angola because of the fact that Angola is "partially o entirely in Africa"? The way I see it, we list three types of geographical entities (issues of recognition aside),

• states that are entirely in Europe
• transcontinental states
• states that may or may not be considered transcontinental, depending on the definition of "Europe" as a geographical term

The third category includes Georgia, but not Armenia. Armenia is in neither of these categories, as it is undisputedly to 100% in Asia according to any common definition of either "Europe" or "Armenia". Membership in associations containing the name "Europe" is hardly sufficient to prove the geographic location of a state. Or else we will be forced to admit Israel is in Europe because it participated in the Eurovision Song Contest. --dab (𒁳) 14:33, 6 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Cyprus is as much in Asia as Armenia, but this thing is discussed broadly on multiple wikipedia pages and the consensus is that we list both Cyprus and Armenia in both Europe and Asia with the appropriate footnotes. Israel is not such a case - its membership in european organizations (by the way, besides some sports federation like UEFA, are there any purely european political organizations where Israel is a member?) is because of problems with its arab neighboors and thus with the appropriate regional organizations.Alinor (talk) 06:30, 8 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]