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RfC on "(constituency)" alone
Should Wikipedia:Naming conventions (UK Parliament constituencies) be further modified to only require "(UK Parliament constituency)" or "(Scottish Parliament constituency)" when there are multiple constituencies such as North East Fife (UK Parliament constituency) and North East Fife (Scottish Parliament constituency) and otherwise use Clacton (constituency) instead of Clacton (UK Parliament constituency) and Orkney (constituency) instead of Orkney (Scottish Parliament constituency). At #RfC on pre-emptive disambiguation in constituency article titles there was consensus to move unambiguous articles to the base name such as Bury St Edmunds and Stowmarket (UK Parliament constituency) to Bury St Edmunds and Stowmarket but this RFC deals with removing extra disambiguation when the topic does need disambiguation because of a different use such as a settlement or district. Crouch, Swale (talk) 22:03, 9 November 2025 (UTC)
- Pinging people who participated in the previous RfC and have recently been involved @162 etc., Amakuru, Andrew Gray, DankJae, DimensionalFusion, Doktorbuk, Elli, Extraordinary Writ, JHunterJ, GothicGolem29, Graham11, Mdewman6, ModernDayTrilobite, PamD, Surtsicna, Thryduulf, and Yoblyblob: as well as significantly involved in the 2014 discussion.
- Support it makes no sense to have a title like Clacton (UK Parliament constituency) or Leeds North West (UK Parliament constituency). While it could be argued that Leeds North West (constituency) would be helpful as it shows its not about the north west part of Leeds the RFC was clearly against that (of which I agree) but I can see no reason why "UK Parliament" is helpful and at least in England few are ambiguous (as opposed to in Scotland) so few would actually need the longer title anyway so consistency doesn't seem a problem here anyway so Georgia (U.S. state) would be the exception while New York (state) and Washington (state) would be more common. In terms of common usage apart from people saying "MP for Clacton" people do refer to "my constituency" by not "my UK Parliament constituency" of which the latter only seems to get 2 results while the former gets lots of results so I don't see how this is even commonly used extra disambiguation when people need to specify them in real life. Crouch, Swale (talk) 22:03, 9 November 2025 (UTC)
- Support. This policy says: "Titles should unambiguously define the topical scope of the article, but should be no more precise than that." Surtsicna (talk) 22:05, 9 November 2025 (UTC)
- Support. No need for unnecessary disambiguation Yoblyblob (Talk) :) 22:25, 9 November 2025 (UTC)
- Support, the disambiguation tag does not need to be more specific than it needs to, especially in England where there is only one constituency type. Accidentally already did it in Wales twice when NCUKPARL was at first fully retired, happy to move those back pending this discussion. I assume this discussion will basically fully retire the convention? If the constituency name is the only article (or noteworthy redirect) with that name then it doesn't need the disambiguator tag. The full dab made some sense when it was applied 100% consistently until that discussion, so now no real reason to keep the full disambiguator when it is not needed. Follow standard disambiguation rules. DankJae 22:42, 9 November 2025 (UTC)
- I think we would just modify the guideline again to say to only use "constituency" is disambiguation is needed but there is only 1 constituency with the name. Crouch, Swale (talk) 19:17, 10 November 2025 (UTC)
- Support. This is really a no-brainer.
Personally, I would also like to go further and omit the UK Parliament part of the disambiguator, unless there's actually another constituency of a different type with the same name. So we'd retain Cardiff Central (UK Parliament constituency) and Cardiff Central (Senedd constituency), but for unambiguous ones like Rugby (UK Parliament constituency) we'd just move this to the shorter Rugby (constituency). I guess that's a separate proposal though.— Amakuru (talk) 23:14, 9 November 2025 (UTC)- @Amakuru: Moving Rugby (UK Parliament constituency) to Rugby (constituency) is what is being proposed in this proposal, that is to say omitting the "UK Parliament" part when not necessary. Cardiff Central (UK Parliament constituency) and Cardiff Central (Senedd constituency) are ambiguous so would be kept as is. Crouch, Swale (talk) 19:17, 10 November 2025 (UTC)
- @Crouch, Swale: Oh, right, that's me not reading the proposal properly! I thought we were still at the Rugby and Kenilworth (UK Parliament constituency) vs Rugby and Kenilworth stage, but now I see that that one has already been settled and I guess Rugby and Kenilworth just hasn't been moved yet. Well great. Definite support then. — Amakuru (talk) 20:14, 10 November 2025 (UTC)
- @Amakuru: Moving Rugby (UK Parliament constituency) to Rugby (constituency) is what is being proposed in this proposal, that is to say omitting the "UK Parliament" part when not necessary. Cardiff Central (UK Parliament constituency) and Cardiff Central (Senedd constituency) are ambiguous so would be kept as is. Crouch, Swale (talk) 19:17, 10 November 2025 (UTC)
- I don't particularly mind either way, but a plea again (as with the old discussion) to leave the consistent "(UK Parliament constituency)" redirects in place whatever we do - it'll be a real headache for future editing otherwise. Andrew Gray (talk) 23:26, 9 November 2025 (UTC)
- Supoort to be logically consistent with disambiguation across other topics- the qualifier is only as long and detailed as is necessary to distinguish it from other topics. Mdewman6 (talk) 00:17, 10 November 2025 (UTC)
- Support(Thanks for the ping). There is no reason to have Uk parliament noted in the title if it is not necessary and if there is only one constituency full stop then it is not necessary so we should remove that from the titles and so I support this proposal.GothicGolem29 (Talk) 02:51, 10 November 2025 (UTC)
- Comment I am a man of simple means. When Wikipedia had no constituency articles at all, editors came together to formulate what would become the UK politics project, and using the Wikipedia culture of the time, chose the disambiguation technique because it was the only tool we thought would be accepted by the wider community. As the project expanded we thought consistency mattered so extended the format to Scotland, Wales (Assembly and Senedd) etc. I'm fully aware that the tide has turned and I won't try to protest too much against what I consider a dismantling of the consistency model. All I ask is that the new naming fformat, and crucially the redirects, don't cause confusion or misunderstanding. Use (UK Parliament constituency) unless you absolutely cannot; use (Scottish Parliament constituency) unless you absolutely cannot. As the next wholesale boundary review could be a decade away if it happens at all, we might not have to look at the wider consequences of our decision here for some time doktorb wordsdeeds 15:30, 10 November 2025 (UTC)
- Support (Summoned by bot) Correctly calibrating disambiguation is tough but I think this change makes sense and fits the policy. Smallangryplanet (talk) 20:24, 10 November 2025 (UTC)
- Support, provided that there is no conflicting name in another country that even sometimes uses the term constituency for their electoral districts. In Canada, for example, the term electoral district is used in legal contexts at the federal level, and at the provincial level, terms like electoral district or electoral division are used for legal purposes; however, outside of legal contexts, constituency (or riding) is commonly used. Graham11 (talk) 00:36, 11 November 2025 (UTC)
- But preferably mark NCUKPARL as historical per Extraordinary Writ. Graham11 (talk) 02:41, 12 November 2025 (UTC)
- Just get rid of NCUKPARL, as the closer of the previous RfC originally interpreted the consensus. In practice that's no different than this proposal (so I'll stick in a bolded support as a second choice), but if we all want to treat UK constituencies the same way we treat any other kind of constituency, we don't need the clutter of a separate guideline for them. Extraordinary Writ (talk) 00:55, 11 November 2025 (UTC)
- Support per unnecessary disambiguation. I also Support Extraordinary Writ’s astute proposal to remove the guideline in question entirely, since this proposal obviates the only content the guideline has. В²C ☎ 05:08, 11 November 2025 (UTC)
- Comment, should this be closed? DankJae 00:02, 31 January 2026 (UTC)
- @DankJae: Yes I think it should, there is a clear consensus and this has been open for nearly 3 months. Crouch, Swale (talk) 09:33, 2 February 2026 (UTC)
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When there is no commonly-known English title, we use it in the native language, e.g., in Lõõtsavägilased, Kipparikvartetti, Rozmowy ze Stanisławem Lemem. Now, sometimes we add translation, as in the previous examples, but sometimes we don't, e.g., Kukerpillid. I do not see a guideline that regulates the translation of the title. Shall/aay we provide translation when it makes sense if it is "translatable" in common sense"? --Altenmann >talk 00:42, 13 December 2025 (UTC)
OK, it looks like I have to discuss this in the WP:LEDE part. --Altenmann >talk 20:13, 14 December 2025 (UTC) |
A potential new example for WP:CONCISE to replace the current outdated one on Rhode Island
The example of Rhode Island for WP:CONCISE is outdated. A potential new example is Hamburg and Free and Hanseatic City of Hamburg. John Smith Ri (talk) 14:57, 14 December 2025 (UTC)
- I don't think that would be a good example as the shorter name appears to be for the settlement and the longer name the administrative unit. Crouch, Swale (talk) 23:44, 17 December 2025 (UTC)
Examples
I was hoping this would not be controversial, but I do not think it is appropriate to use Bill Clinton and J.K. Rowling as examples in this section. I made a BOLD change to mostly arbitrary but still famous examples of the same issues, Bill Hader and N.K. Jemisin. This change was reverted because Bill Clinton and J.K. Rowling are pages with higher daily page views and "it's better to stick with the higher-pageview ones that are likely more familiar to readers". While I concede Bill Clinton and J.K. Rowling are highly-visited pages (so much so that it is much less feasible to seek out alternatives with that additional criteria), I do not think Wikipedia should use them as examples in a policy document because they are both highly controversial figures. Bill Clinton is tied to the Epstein Files in a serious way, to say nothing of the (ongoing, really) controversies of his presidency related to his restrictive reforms to criminal law and welfare. J.K. Rowling is as famous now for her transphobia as for Harry Potter. Because the examples on this page are practical, I do not think curation based on page views is a good enough reason for the page to stay as it is. The reader of this policy understands what is meant by "Bill, not William" and "author initials, not full author name." The reader would understand this even if they had never heard of the example before. Reminding the reader of these controversies in the context of this page is entirely unnecessary, and alternatives should be chosen. Courtesy ping for @Extraordinary Writ:. lethargilistic (talk) 19:37, 24 December 2025 (UTC)
- I mean, I think that's a wild reach. Every example we ever use is going to be controversial to some extent, and that really has nothing to do with the Wikipedia. If Wikipedians can't handle an example being a person they don't think is a good person, we are well and truly screwed Red Slash 17:47, 13 February 2026 (UTC)
Discussion at MOS:VA
Please see Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style/Visual arts § Parenthetical vs. natural disambiguation for public sculptures. voorts (talk/contributions) 16:56, 19 January 2026 (UTC)
Requested Move @Twitter
You are invited to join the discussions at Talk:Twitter § Requested move 9 February 2026. Some1 (talk) 04:25, 9 February 2026 (UTC)