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The result was redirect all to List of Pokémon characters. Non-admin closure. Jujutacular ^T · C 05:52, 5 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

List of Kanto Gym Leaders (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View log • AfD statistics)

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Like its sister article about Johto gym leaders, this is non notable WP:GAMECRUFT; though the games where these characters appear are notable, they do not merit articles of their own, as evidenced by the fact that from the only 3 characters with "main" articles about themselves, one in fact redirects to List of characters in the Pokémon anime series and the other two (Brock and Misty) are notable because of the TV series, not the games. I am also nominating the following related pages because these related articles are just as notable as this one (that is, not notable enough for inclusion at all):

List of Johto Gym Leaders (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)

List of Hoenn Gym Leaders (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)

List of Sinnoh Gym Leaders (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)

GSMR (talk) 23:38, 24 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

• Note: This debate has been included in the list of video game related deletion discussions. (Search video game sources) Nifboy (talk) 21:35, 24 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
• Redirect to List of Pokémon characters#Kanto. This has been coming for a long time. But one question. Why were Hoenn and Sinnoh Gym Leaders not AfD'ed also? What makes them any different? _Blake ^{(Talk·Edits)} 23:18, 24 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment I wasn't aware they existed. I'll AfD those too, thanks. GSMR (talk) 23:21, 24 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
• Note: This debate has been included in the list of Lists-related deletion discussions. -- • Gene93k (talk) 23:31, 24 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

(edit conflict) *Redirect all per Bws2cool. I vote the same for all the lists in question. Granted each one should be sourced as much as possible, so that in the end we have more than simple little lists of bosses. -WarthogDemon 23:34, 24 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

• Are you saying to add information and sources to the list being merged to? I think their list entries should be short and simple with no need for sources. Unless we are going to just trim the info and make a paragraph of info instead of a few sentences. The Elite Four had pharagraphs of info, but eventually it got cut down. It just isn't needed. Wikipedia isn't the place for detailed information. Their roles in the games, anime, and manga goes on the side with the real world info being the main course; The development and reception. _Blake ^{(Talk·Edits)} 00:01, 25 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

• Comment No, just the additions of more sources if possible. I'm not suggesting we add 10 paragraphs of gamecruftic bibliographies per leader. Sorry for the confusion. -WarthogDemon 00:05, 25 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

• I am doubting that the lists they will be merged to will have much information. So really, they won't need sourcing. I think that the Gym Leaders and E4 should get a whole list to themselves named Pokémon League or something. Then they could have full paragraphs. It made List of Pokémon characters really big though. So that wasn't very good. We just need to find some sources that go over Gym Leaders or Elite Four, so it would be notable. _Blake ^{(Talk·Edits)} 00:15, 25 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

• Comment Oh . . . I see. Then simply redirect per you then. -WarthogDemon 01:15, 25 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

• Comment I wasn't aware before how to list multiple related articles for deletion. The others now have {{subst:afd1|List of Kanto Gym Leaders}} and their discussions redirect to here. GSMR (talk) 23:46, 24 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
• Redirect to the various region that they're from (I'm half-surprised that this hasn't already been done). I can't vouch for other people, but if I wanted this sort of information, I'd go to Bulbapedia. DitzyNizzy (aka Jess)|(talk to me)|(What I've done) 00:03, 25 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

• Comment I would have said transwiki to Bulbapedia too, only chances are the subject matter is already thoroughly covered there. GSMR (talk) 01:35, 25 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

• Much of the content on these pages are most likely taken from pages on Bulbapedia. lol _Blake ^{(Talk·Edits)} 01:43, 25 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

• Redirect to something more suitable. This isn't Bulbapedia and there doesn't need to be a massive amount of details, but a short concise article for the leaders as a whole can't go wrong, especially with notability TheChrisD ^{Rants•Edits} 11:48, 25 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Do you mean that you would support a List of Pokémon Gym Leaders or Pokémon League article if most of the information was cut down and sourced? I am going to try and make better Gym Leader and Elite Four entries in my userspace at User:Bws2cool/Pokémon League. It might take a long while to get through all of them, but I think it will be worth it. _Blake ^{(Talk·Edits)} 15:11, 25 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
• Comment Hey, look! Reception on Gym Leaders! Sure, it may not be much, but its a start! *keeps looking* _Blake ^{(Talk·Edits)} 20:22, 25 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • It's a shame that this IGN source isn't written from a real-world perspective, otherwise it might've been of some encyclopedic value. Marasmusine (talk) 15:54, 26 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
• Note: This debate has been included in the list of Anime and manga-related deletion discussions. -- —Farix (t | c) 17:55, 28 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Redirect to List of Pokémon characters and add Bulbapedia link to external links. I'm sure this info is useful to some, but keep it summarized here and give them a link where more info can be obtained. --Teancum (talk) 12:37, 4 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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